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re: nocharge
i also named a none Italian place, but I'm a little confused by the idea that the heavy concentration of Italian places isn't a a great tradition that is the heart and soul, and point of North Beach. Not the run of the mill part, of course, which is why we're attempting to name places which are near the destination without being run of the mill.
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re: sugartoof
I agree that the Italian places are the heart and soul of North Beach. And suggestions for better than run-of-the-mill places are obviously useful, no argument there. But I don't think it was a complete coincidence that while the Chronicle's Top 100 Restaurant list for 2009 had 19 Italian places on it, not a single one was in North Beach.
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re: sugartoof
North Beach isn't a very Italian neighborhood any more. All but two (Capp's Corner and Green Valley / Sodini's) of the old-school Italian restaurants have closed. All but one (Molinari's) of the delis have closed. The grocery store closed. I think the concentration of relatively new Italian restaurants has less to do with the neighborhood than with tourists going there looking for Italian food.
That said, Ideale is good, and Rose Pistola has been, off and on. L'Osteria is good, but takes no reservations.
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re: Robert Lauriston
That's false, and misleading.
Cafe Roma, Trieste, Tosca, Gino and Carlo, French American Bakery, Victoria, Graffeo, Greco, Vesuvio, Savoy Tivoli, Mario's Bohemian, Cigar Shop, Mr. Bing's, Capp's, Curly's, Tomasso's, Washbag, North Beach Restaurant, Luguria, Caffe Sport, Columbus Cafe, Golden Boy, The Saloon, ALL remain.
That's not even a complete list of old North Beach places, most of which are San Francisco treasures in their own way....even if they'll never win a place on the top 100.
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re: sugartoof
Many of those places aren't all that old and/or have no connection with the old Italian community. Mr. Bing's dates from the 1960s and isn't Italian. Caffe Sport was opened in 1969 by a guy from Sicily. The Washbag was opened in 1973 by a couple of guys from St. Louis who wanted to create a New York-style atmosphere, went out of business a couple of years ago, and was reopened by an Irish couple. Golden Boy was opened in 1978 by a neighborhood guy who later bought and restored Green Valley. The Saloon dates to 1860, and is an awesome blues club, but there's nothing Italian about it.
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re: Ms. Verde
This is their website. I believe they are open until 11 on Saturdays. Reservations are strongly suggested.
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re: toitoi
Thank you all for your spirited suggestions! We have reservations for The House, thanks to you. I think we stumbled onto it for lunch on our last visit, but could not remember the name/address. I'll be sure to share how it goes Saturday night. We got to thinking that fusion might be a better, lighter choice--given we will be attending the Fancy Food convention on Sunday.
Any suggestions for lunch on Saturday--we will be staying at the Sir Francis Drake, but are willing to take public transit within reason. My partner would love some fresh local Dung. crab. Is it still in season and if so, where would you suggest?
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re: Ms. Verde
Had a wonderful crab louie in the Ferry Building at Ferry Plaza Seafood, Then, of course, there's Swan Oyster Depot at 1517 Polk Street (between California and Sacramento) but be prepared for a long wait - no reservations.
Tadich Grill at 240 California (between Front & Battery) is wonderful, but, also no res.
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re: toitoi
I tried Capp's Corner for lunch this Sunday (visiting from LA) based on the recs from this thread. Great old feeling. Lots of wood and a real bar. Quiet at noon, but by 12:30 there were lots of regular locals as well as the Beach Blanket Babyloners, who started to pile in before the first matinee.
I ordered the chicken parmesan meal for $14. It came with penne in red sauce, carrots and zucchini. Also the minestrone soup came in a tureen, even though I was dining alone.
The food was basic. I certainly could make a chicken parmesan of this caliber at home. However, it was just the kind of homey food to fill my belly on a rainy day, in a cozy place with a great vibe. The food was not spectacular, but it was just what I needed.
Mr Taster
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Capp's Corner
1600 Powell St, San Francisco, CA 94133
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I've lately been enjoying Ideale Restaurant, on Grant near Vallejo.
-Aaron
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