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mopeyboy Dec 28, 2009 01:24 PM

Please help me. Anyone who thinks Tommy's Burgers are absolute trash; In n Out is pedestrian; and The Counter is just OK, discuss real burgers but do not include Umami, Father's Office, Hole in the Wall, 25 Degrees. I've had them multiple times and I like them a lot but I want "Drugstore Burgers"/"Old Fashoined Burgers"/"Drive-In Burgers", or whatever you want to call them. Cooked on a flat grill. Had Pie & Burger and Apple Pan, too, so something new. Is it possible there are no burgers left in this category?

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  1. Dommy RE: mopeyboy Dec 28, 2009 02:01 PM

    Have you tried the Baby's Bad @$$ Burgers Truck? Excellent, especially the sliders...

    --Dommy!

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      mopeyboy RE: Dommy Jan 2, 2010 04:22 PM

      Never heard of it. On Twitter? Thanks

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        Jase RE: mopeyboy Jan 2, 2010 05:24 PM

        http://twitter.com/BabysBBs

    2. Servorg RE: mopeyboy Dec 28, 2009 02:11 PM

      Here is some light reading for you while you plan your quest for the holy burger: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/312209 (lol).

      Have you ever been to Hinano's on Washington right at the foot of the Venice Beach pier? If not it ought to be on your short list.

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      Hinano Cafe
      15 Washington Blvd, Venice, CA 90292

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        mopeyboy RE: Servorg Dec 28, 2009 04:51 PM

        I have been to Hinano's and I think it's very good. Forgot to include them. Thanks. Also another place that has a good one is Rick's Tacos on Rosecrans.

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          maudies5 RE: mopeyboy Dec 28, 2009 05:07 PM

          The ultimate "drive-in" burger was at Dolores' in Beverly Hills (also a S.M. location, but BH was better). There is still a Dolores' on Santa Monica Boulevard near Sawtelle in W.L.A. They continue to make the "Jumbo Jim." I don't recommend this place. The move from the drive-in to the walk-in never did work and that "Jumbo Jim" only worked when it was sitting outside of the window of your car in a tray.

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            Servorg RE: mopeyboy Dec 29, 2009 04:01 PM

            I also like The Shack, (especially the location in Playa Del Rey which is a true "beach shack") and you can always give the original Tommy's on Rampart Blvd. can hit the mark when you need a trip down memory lane http://www.originaltommys.com/ or even The Bucket for old time burger heartburn.

            Bucket
            4541 Eagle Rock Boulevard North
            Los Angeles, CA
            (323) 257-5654‎

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            The Shack
            185 Culver Blvd, Playa Del Rey, CA 90293

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              Dommy RE: Servorg Jan 2, 2010 10:42 PM

              I was TERRIBLY disappointed by the Shack's Burger, it had no real taste, the bun was industrial and they DROWN it shredded lettuce... I HATE shredded lettuce on my burgers...

              http://twitpic.com/p5m4m

              --Dommy!

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                a_and_w RE: Dommy Jan 3, 2010 08:53 AM

                Did you get it with the hot link?

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                  Dommy RE: a_and_w Jan 3, 2010 09:38 AM

                  CRAP... the second you said hot link I realized I was talking about a different burger... the one pictured is not the shack... but the Habit... I completely retract... I've been the shack actually but got a Chicken Sandwich... which was tasty...

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          bulavinaka RE: mopeyboy Dec 28, 2009 02:28 PM

          To add to Servorg's light reading list, here's a thread that offered up various Hounds' "humble" opinions comparing and contrasting The Apple Pan: :}

          http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/372510

          1. Will Owen RE: mopeyboy Dec 28, 2009 05:02 PM

            Second City Bistro in El Segundo flat-grills theirs, as does Pie'n'Burger; I suspect the Redwood Grill downtown does too. And Pann's and Harry's (a block north of IKEA in Burbank), to name two "family diners". Redwood is really my favorite, I think, though PnB is more Instant Gratification for me.

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              Burger Boy RE: mopeyboy Dec 28, 2009 09:50 PM

              Yanaki's on Valley Blvd just east of the 605 frwy on the south side!

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              Yanakis Burgers
              13200 Valley Blvd, La Puente, CA 91746

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                Ogawak RE: mopeyboy Dec 29, 2009 09:15 AM

                Having been to Pie N Burger and the Apple Pan, I would recommend Jongwaard's Bake N Broil in Long Beach for a good burger and an awesome lemon lush pie. I like their burger/pie combo better than the ones mentioned above.

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                  Will Owen RE: Ogawak Dec 29, 2009 11:25 AM

                  I wanted to love Bake'n'Broil's patty melt, and mostly did, but my patty was lacking much flavor. I would assume the same would go for the regular burger.

                  Ever since I read that Nancy Silverton insists on pre-salting hamburgers I have done so, and it makes a huge difference, even with plain old supermarket meat. I suspect that a widespread failure to do this explains many of the boring burgers out there.

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                    Bob Brooks RE: Will Owen Dec 31, 2009 02:17 PM

                    Will, I don't want to take this off top so I'll post this article about salting your burger on Home Cooking. Interesting stuff.

                    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/677467

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                      Dommy RE: Will Owen Jan 2, 2010 10:34 PM

                      I know!! I love Nancy's method and have used it with amazing success at home... but when I first read it I was like, this is a revelation?! I've been doing it for years (Along with a little cracked pepper and a dash of garlic powder) and then it hit me about all those inspid burgers I've had all these years... bleeehh....

                      --Dommy!

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                        rednyellow RE: Dommy Jan 3, 2010 07:44 PM

                        Same here. I can't imagine cooking a patty w/o first seasoning it just as you do.

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                      monku RE: Ogawak Dec 29, 2009 01:36 PM

                      The Burger Special (burger/dessert/drink for $8.50)

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                        Ernie RE: Ogawak Dec 29, 2009 02:16 PM

                        I concur, Bake N Broil makes one of my favorite burgers in LA County. I like it with cheese and grilled onions, and their pies are fantastic too.

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                          Will Owen RE: Ernie Dec 29, 2009 03:53 PM

                          Such urgings from the brethren tell me I just need to get back there and try again. I am reminded that I once - just ONCE - got a real dud from Pie'n'Burger, and had that been my first try I never would've gone back.

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                        toonoble RE: mopeyboy Dec 29, 2009 10:07 AM

                        Not old faschioned but Westside Tavern has a very good burger...

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                          mopeyboy RE: toonoble Dec 29, 2009 10:50 AM

                          Thanks to those who have responded so far. I agree about the burger at Westside but it is more like the higher end burgers. I'm going to try Jongwaard's and Yanaki's, if I can ever find it! I'm a Culver City man.

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                            mollyomormon RE: mopeyboy Dec 29, 2009 11:17 AM

                            Have you tried San Francisco Saloon's burgers?

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                              Dommy RE: mollyomormon Jan 2, 2010 10:37 PM

                              I have and found them unremarkable... I'd heard the raves and just didn't get it we got a plain and one with stuff (I think ortega chiles) and neither came together all that well... much prefer Pie and Burger and Apple Pans although these are MUCH more stripped down... Which is why I opted to compare BBB's sliders as more akin to what the OP was looking for...

                              --Dommy!

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                              bulavinaka RE: mopeyboy Dec 29, 2009 11:19 AM

                              >>I'm a Culver City man.<<

                              Consider the first two recs Dommy! and Servorg on this post for local or locally accessible burgers. These two veteran posters would never steer you wrong...

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                                WSB RE: bulavinaka Dec 29, 2009 01:38 PM

                                Mom's Burgers
                                336 W Alondra Blvd
                                Compton, CA 90220

                                http://www.diglounge.net/food/ghetto-...

                                Irv's Burgers
                                8289 Santa Monica Blvd, West Hollywood CA 90046

                                http://www.simmzys.com/

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                            jackattack RE: mopeyboy Dec 29, 2009 02:36 PM

                            Walter's 9601 Wilshire Blvd

                            Irv's 8289 Santa Monica Blvd

                            1. bodie RE: mopeyboy Dec 29, 2009 03:19 PM

                              Submitted for your approval: the humble yet delicious burger stand, Jack's Classic (intersection of Tujunga, Riverside & Camarillo)

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                              Jack's Classic Hamburgers
                              11375 Riverside Dr, North Hollywood, CA 91602

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                                monku RE: bodie Dec 29, 2009 03:31 PM

                                Speaking of Jack's, I lived in the area 20 yrs ago and used to go to Fat Jack's on Ventura Blvd. and thought that was a great burger back then.
                                Anyone still go there or is it closed, haven't heard anything about Fat Jack's.

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                                  sel RE: monku Dec 29, 2009 03:59 PM

                                  I have not been to Fat Jack's in many years either and I think it has moved since the days of the ol' stand but it's still around.

                                  http://maps.google.com/maps/place?hl=...

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                                  Fat Jacks
                                  11402 Ventura Blvd, Studio City, CA

                              2. monku RE: mopeyboy Dec 29, 2009 04:02 PM

                                Montebello Country Club coffee shop has a half pound hamburger w/fries for $5.95.
                                Make sure you ask them to cook it medium rare.

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                                  Norm Man RE: mopeyboy Dec 30, 2009 02:57 PM

                                  For great old fashion burgers, run immediately to B & R Old Fashioned Burgers:

                                  B & R Old Fashioned Burgers
                                  3512 West Rosecrans Avenue
                                  Hawthorne, CA 90250
                                  (310) 679-4774
                                  http://www.BandRBurgers.com

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                                    mopeyboy RE: Norm Man Jan 2, 2010 11:15 AM

                                    Thanks. I have been there and thought the burgers AND the fries were very good. Another one I forgot.

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                                    JBC RE: mopeyboy Jan 2, 2010 12:03 PM

                                    You might like the The Zwieb(el) Burger at Snug Harbor. It's preparation and ingredients haven't changed, hopefully, since the 1940's when it opened:

                                    2323 Wilshire Blvd, Santa Monica ~ (310) 828-2991

                                    I'd call first and ask them about it; also, they may close in the afternoon ?

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                                      alnyden RE: mopeyboy Jan 2, 2010 12:59 PM

                                      I've always thought Fatburger was pretty underrated in the classic burger category.

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                                        mopeyboy RE: alnyden Jan 2, 2010 04:24 PM

                                        Thanks. I agree but some locations are hit and miss. First stop before, In & Out, for sure.

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                                        Fatburger
                                        10600 1 2 Ventura Blvd, Studio City, CA

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                                          Dommy RE: alnyden Jan 2, 2010 10:43 PM

                                          I agree... on the CHAR for sure though...

                                          --Dommy!

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                                          david Haskell RE: mopeyboy Jan 2, 2010 04:31 PM

                                          It's a burger...it's a burger.Tommy's awesome...awesome...In n Out awesome..........it's a burger...are you kidding.I love umami...best in the city..Father's Office is a sandwich...but it has the food since Sang is one of the best chefs in the country, with a better palate than most somms.....but you my friend better realize..ITS A BURGER

                                          1. a_and_w RE: mopeyboy Jan 3, 2010 08:55 AM

                                            I'm going to beat Burger Boy to the punch and recommend 26 Beach, which is still one of the best I've had in LA. Avoid the gimmicky toppings and ask for the fries well done.

                                            1. ronnie_gaucho RE: mopeyboy Jan 3, 2010 11:20 PM

                                              You might like the burger at Hinano's in Venice. Very decent old school burger

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                                                mopeyboy RE: ronnie_gaucho Jan 4, 2010 12:43 PM

                                                Thanks. Had it many times.

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                                                Indigenous RE: mopeyboy Jan 4, 2010 01:22 AM

                                                Then again out here in Chatsworth
                                                we have the Munch Box on Devonshire
                                                near the train stop since 1956
                                                haven't gone commercial like Tommys

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                                                  mattyshack RE: mopeyboy Jan 4, 2010 01:03 PM

                                                  D Town Burger
                                                  http://www.diglounge.net/food/d-town-...

                                                  Hole in the Wall Burger
                                                  http://www.diglounge.net/food/celebra...

                                                  And of course, Hawkins if you are feeling adventurous.

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                                                  Hawkins House of Burgers
                                                  11603 Slater St, Los Angeles, CA 90059

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                                                    ramseyconder RE: mattyshack Feb 5, 2010 10:31 AM

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