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Best burger AND fries in Manhattan and hipster parts of Brooklyn?

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flams53 Dec 23, 2009 08:47 AM

Hey all,

A search of the boards didn't turn up a satisfactory answer to this question: where is the best place in Manhattan to get a good burger and good french fries?

In all the burger reviews on this site, little is said about the fries. I'm looking for a meal that is the best combination of both. My tastes tend toward a more traditional burger (few toppings, 1/3-1/2 lb patty, bun that doesn't dissolve), and thicker, more potato-y fries, but good is good regardless of style.

Thanks.

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    roxxan23 RE: flams53 Jan 3, 2010 04:16 PM

    i know everyone talks about shake shack, but it's really the best, imo. the fries there are really good. crinkle cut. thick and potato-y.

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      StheJ RE: flams53 Jan 4, 2010 12:12 PM

      I really like Bonnie's Grill on 5th avenue and 1st street in Brooklyn. The burgers are really good and the fries rock...

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        chowkitty RE: StheJ Jan 28, 2010 12:19 PM

        And you didn't even mention the wings at Bonnies. I was just there last night. LOVE them. And my burger was amazing with cheese and their chipotle mayo. YUM. Just don't get the wings in the "hottest" variety, as you will burn your mouth and not enjoy the rest of the meal.

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          nooyawka RE: chowkitty Jun 4, 2010 07:47 AM

          StheJ and chowkitty, I tried Bonnie's last night after reading these and other reviews. Didn't care for the kobe burger, thought it was utterly forgettable. The black angus was much better. The fries are thin-cut, which personally, I dislike, regardless of the seasoning. But you mention the wings, which is outside the scope of the op's request, but yeah, they're good. Very good. Very authentic. I went to school in Buffalo and had my fair share. I got the mild, but they were flavorful. I'd go back, if for nothing else, for the wings.

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            sgordon RE: nooyawka Jun 24, 2010 01:46 PM

            A Kobe burger is an insult to Kobe beef. The whole point of Kobe / Wagyu is the texture - flavor-wise, there's very little difference from prime. Grinding it up defeats the purpose of eating Kobe entirely. Sadly, the whole Kobe burger trend show no signs of dying.

            To quote Bourdain on the subject:

            "The Kobe experience is principally about the marbling, the even distribution of fat through lean. A hamburger is a bunch of lean beef thrown into a grinder with varying degrees of fat. If you are foolish enough to order a Kobe burger, you are entirely missing the point. Firstly, the fat will melt right out of the thing while cooking. Secondly, you are asking the chef to destroy the very textural notes for which Kobe is valued by smarter people. Thirdly, for an eight-ounce Kobe burger, you are paying for the chef to feed you all the outer fat and scrap bits he trimmed off the outside of his “real” Kobe so he can afford to serve properly trimmed steaks to wiser patrons who know what the hell they’re doing."

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              jhopp217 RE: sgordon Jun 25, 2010 07:05 AM

              I might steal this for another thread! Thanks in advance!

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        flams53 RE: flams53 Jan 10, 2010 09:26 PM

        Thanks!

        1. bigjeff RE: flams53 Jan 15, 2010 03:22 PM

          dumont burger in hipsterville; fries good too.

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            Celebrity Holmes RE: flams53 Feb 1, 2010 03:38 PM

            Thalia on the S.E. corner of 8th Ave and 50th is my current favorite.. cooked excellently to order and comes standard with Gruyere and bacon on a lovely brioche with lettuce, tomato and onion and a ton of perfectly seasoned fries. Not cheap at around $14 before tax/tip, but phenomenal. Pretty sure If you go there for lunch on weekdays, you get a free drink as well.. the typical mimosa/bloody mary I think.

            Best bargain burger for me would be Island Burger on the East side of 9th Ave near 51st, but alas, no fries there.

            I'm also a big fan of Dumont's and Diner's burgers and fries, with Diner edging Dumont out a bit with their grass fed monster. If you haven't been to Diner, it's DEFINITELY worth the trip.

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              m1212 RE: flams53 Feb 3, 2010 08:15 PM

              Black Iron Burger Shop on East 5th between A and B is amazing!

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                Jonny Pops RE: m1212 Jun 7, 2010 06:03 PM

                It's not really so good. Plus it's overpriced and has the tiniest milkshakes I've ever seen.

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                  Pedr0 RE: m1212 Oct 5, 2010 05:34 PM

                  Black Iron or DuMont Burger. I give DuMont a slight edge for being reliably open late though.

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                  PJCooks RE: flams53 Jun 7, 2010 04:36 PM

                  Is 5 Napkin Burger not worth mentioning?

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                    jhopp217 RE: flams53 Jun 9, 2010 08:39 AM

                    I haven't had it, because I can't go there and get myself to order burger, but everyone says the Peter Luger burger is the best in NY. If not the world. Many say Donovan's in Queen's is #2. I didn't like it when I went.

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                      nooyawka RE: jhopp217 Jun 11, 2010 09:40 AM

                      2 friends and I stopped in Donovan's one night. To a person we felt that it did not match the hype. It was not memorable for me at all. I stopped in with another friend a second time just to confirm it. And it was not really too remarkable. Donovan's is no longer on my radar for burgers, unless of course, I happen to be in Woodside, and I really feel like a burger and fries, then Donovan's would get the job done.

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                        jhopp217 RE: nooyawka Jun 15, 2010 08:38 AM

                        I find it funny that so many people love it. I have heard their shepherd's pie is great. Will have to try it the next time I'm in the area.

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                        steakrules85 RE: jhopp217 Jul 19, 2010 09:38 AM

                        Jhopp I too could NEVER pass up order my beloved porterhouse at Peter Luger. However, on a recent lunch trip I was able to sample the burger for the first time and I must say it was incredible. And in my opinion Peter Luger has the best french fries in the city.

                        Another great place for burgers and fries is Rare Bar and Grill. Absolutely one of the best. They have many different kinds of fries and dipping sauces. My favorite are the sweet potato and waffle fries. Get the maple dipping sauce.

                        As for the Minetta recc I agree it is a very tasty burger but for $26 I don't think it is really worth it. And I have to stress their fries were REALLY disappointing. Especially since they are supposedly the same as the ones they serve you at Balthazar which many say are the best in the city. Then again I am not a fan of thin cut fries.

                        I have not been yet but I hear Breslin bar has some great fries.

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                        Peter Luger
                        255 Northern Blvd, Great Neck, NY 11021

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                        pedrillo RE: flams53 Jun 24, 2010 09:21 AM

                        I thought prime meats was awesome and it's farm to table!

                        1. sgordon RE: flams53 Jun 24, 2010 01:52 PM

                          Dumont is good, though I found it a touch oversalted - not inedible, just a touch. Good, beefy flavor though. Fries the same.

                          Schiller's has a pretty solid burger n' fries. McNally & Co. have shown they know their fries well. The regular burger at Minetta Tavern - not the overpriced "Black Label Burger" - is also very good.

                          I can't think of any in town, though, that I'd go out of my way for. Schiller's is in my neighborhood, that's the only reason I'd go there over any other place. If I'm in Gramercy / Flatiron area, and the line is short, I might pop over to Shake Shack. If I'm going to catch a Mets game, I might hit Donovan's before or after the game.

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                            kariface RE: flams53 Jun 26, 2010 05:14 PM

                            I really like the (eye roll, cliche) Minetta tavern black label burger. It's well worth the $26.

                            In hipsterville, hands down the best burger is at Diner, with Five Leaves and El Almacen as runners up. Dumont BUrger is overrated, and has gone downhill.

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                              sgordon RE: kariface Jun 28, 2010 12:25 PM

                              Must respectfully disagree. I did an analysis of the price of the BLB, and it's not - in terms of raw material and standard restaurant markup - worth anywhere near $26:

                              http://foodimade.blogspot.com/2010/06...

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                              RedTop RE: flams53 Jul 10, 2010 05:17 AM

                              I'll chime in with mention of The Little Owl in the West Village. Perfectly sized, grass-fed, delicious.

                              1. weloveburgers RE: flams53 Nov 26, 2010 09:40 PM

                                I agree with Shake Shack, except the fries aren't on my favorite list. Black iron is great - more of a shoe string or thinner fry.
                                In the burg I also think Dumont is over rated, but five leaves is amazing and so are the fries! Another good one in the neighborhood is Cafe Colette - its similar to shake shack but better potatoes.
                                The Breslin in nyc has a lamb burger that is amazing (and I never thought I would say that) - their fries are thrice fried and unbelievable.

                                www.weloveburgers.com

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                                  Pedr0 RE: weloveburgers Nov 27, 2010 05:32 AM

                                  Black Iron has recently cut their fry portions in 1/2. One order used to easily be enough for two, not so anymore. Seems pretty chintzy.

                                  Whatever people's opinions are about DuMont burger, I will say that they're reliably open until 2am. I work pretty late sometimes and have been pretty disappointed to find Black Iron closed by 11pm on a Wednesday night.

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                                    porkpa RE: Pedr0 Nov 30, 2010 05:54 AM

                                    Walkers in Tribeca has a wonderful burger with excellent fries for less than bucks. Nothing fancy, but really good.

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                                  porkpa RE: flams53 Nov 30, 2010 05:55 AM

                                  That should read "ten" bucks.

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                                    Sage RE: flams53 Dec 17, 2010 06:13 AM

                                    James (on St Marks and Carlton in Prospect Heights) makes a great burger and fries. Also, during happy hour (5:30-6:30 weekdays) it is half price ($7.50).

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