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bodacious Dec 21, 2009 07:31 AM

Can I bake a ham that isn't smothered in sugar and fruit?

I don't understand why pork always has to be paired with sugar and fruit -- especially ham -- as this combination has always struck me as insipid. Does anyone have a recipe for baked ham that does NOT involve pineapples, apricots, apples, pears, figs, sugar, honey, or other dessert items?

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    Roland Parker Feb 6, 2013 12:39 PM

    Most of the alternative suggestions listed on this thread do involve a sweetness - cider vinegar, soda, pickles and white wine all have a sweet undertone.

    Ham on its own has a strong, gamey and salty flavor which is why people add something sweet to it - to balance out the flavors. I don't think I've ever had a baked ham that had no sweet notes added to it so it's an intriguing concept to try a straightforward savory ham. Do try and let me know.

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      hippioflov Feb 5, 2013 06:19 PM

      A little late, but I often just shower the outside of my ham with some garlic, salt, and pepper. I used a spice rib rub last time - January in fact - and that was yummy too.

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        cleopatra999 Feb 6, 2013 09:05 AM

        Here is a recipe for a Jerk spiced ham we had a Christmas, big hit. good flavour profile.
        http://www.jamieoliver.com/magazine/r...

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          hippioflov Feb 16, 2013 12:53 PM

          This will be my next ham!

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        Cautiouseyes Dec 27, 2012 09:39 AM

        My mom gave me this idea and every time I make a ham it comes out mouth watering tender and delicious!!
        In place of all fruit or sugar, use a liter bottle of diet 7-UP. Make sure the ham is covered toughly, but baste often. If you like a crispy coating, leave the foil off for the last 10 minutes or so.

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          coll Dec 27, 2012 01:36 PM

          But the sugar in non-diet soda crisps up so nicely.....I made a note on my recipe not to use diet in the future.

        2. mamachef Nov 23, 2010 09:04 AM

          Painted down with Dijon or grainy mustard, peppered heavily,and baked in white wine. Yum. Or Mayland-style, stuffed with greens and braised.

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            drlee_susquespine Dec 29, 2009 06:27 AM

            I too HATE sweet ham. If it's pre-cured, I throw it in the oven as is, on the grill or in the electric smoker with out chips and slow roast it.

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              laliz Dec 28, 2009 01:17 PM

              baste w/ginger ale

              1. Will Owen Dec 28, 2009 01:09 PM

                I don't mind a good ham glaze, but the usual goopy brown-sugar thing I find kind of annoying, not to mention damned hard to clean up after. Some fruit preserves or marmalade, thinned with a bit of vinegar and brushed on, is just about right in my books. I think the one I liked best had that kind of glaze made with ginger marmalade.

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                  MakingSense Dec 21, 2009 01:37 PM

                  Absolutely! I'm with you, but would use a stronger word than "insipid." It's gross and a waste of great pan drippings. Why would you do that?
                  If you like fruit with your ham, serve some type of relish, pickled or spiced fruit, or chutney along side it.
                  The drippings and leftover ham/hambone can be used for soups and other dishes without having to wash off the sugary stuff. Ick!

                  Actually most hams caramelize beautifully without a thing on them. You can score the skin in a decorative pattern if it pleases you. Serve with some good mustards and the skimmed drippings.

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                    ChefJune Dec 21, 2009 11:41 AM

                    My all-time favorite way to cook ham is to encase it in a rye dough and then pour cognac (or bourbon) between the meat and the case. It roasts in a very slow oven for a long while, and when you crack off the shell, the meat is so tender you could almost eat it with a spoon. The cognac gives the meat a nice "glow," and it is not icky sweet as with fruit.

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                      tcamp Dec 21, 2009 01:23 PM

                      Wow, that sounds wonderful. I'd love to do this; can you provide a little more detail?

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                        mitchell25418 Dec 28, 2009 11:57 AM

                        That sounds wonderful - any chance on getting more info?

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                          bodacious Dec 28, 2009 05:18 PM

                          I ended up baking my ham in mustard/sherry, and it came out OK, not great (tho hubby loved it). The cola/soda idea is intriguing, but the rye dough is what really catches my eye. How do you do that (what temp)?

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                          vjb Mar 6, 2012 07:45 PM

                          ChefJune,
                          Could you please post a recipe for your ham cooked in rye dough and cognac?
                          By the way, is this an uncooked (but smoked or brined) ham you use? Or is it an already-cooked ham that you are actually heating up rather than cooking?

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                          pengcast Dec 21, 2009 09:19 AM

                          I am not suggesting this, but I did see Patty Labelle make a ham on Martha Stewart and she made a Dr. Pepper glaze. I thought Martha was going to have a coronary. It was priceless.

                          I usually use a mustard glaze with very little sugar and use mixture of hot dog and dijon mustard. Have also done an aged balsamic vingar glaze -- this was a Mario Batelli idea.

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                            foiegras Dec 21, 2009 10:14 AM

                            Either hot dog, or aged balsamic ... I love it! I would love a slice of Patti LaBelle's Dr Pepper ham.

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                              coll Dec 21, 2009 11:50 AM

                              When I didn't have any Coke around, I used root beer once and it was great. I've used Dr Pepper too, such an easy baste.

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                            Normandie Dec 21, 2009 09:16 AM

                            No, there's no law, bodacious. A little sweet is always good with ham, simply because salty and sweet complement one another. But it can come from the sugars in onions, which scunge had mentioned, or other roasted or caramelized veggies such as carrots and parsnips.

                            The best ham I ever made (i.e., my friends still talk about it) did have fruit (Morello cherries), but you can skip that. What really made the ham is that it was basted in a spicy white wine. Wish I could remember which one--but I just started out with a little bit of it in the pan and basted it intermittently after the ham began to add pan juices.

                            I also did a ham once in a similar fashion using Champagne, while the ham rested on a generous bed of sliced fresh fennel bulbs and (simple enough) corn kernels, mixed frozen out of the bag with the fresh fennel. There the corn added the sweetness.

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                              jcattles Dec 21, 2009 07:53 AM

                              I roast mine in a 350 degree oven just like I do a turkey. Not basting, no fruits, no glaze. If it's looking too brown, I'll cover it with foil.

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                                scunge Dec 21, 2009 08:54 AM

                                coleman mustard ,cider vinegar and black coffee sort of a tangy redeye gravy .Onions at the bottom of pan

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                                  thew Dec 21, 2009 10:33 AM

                                  short answer: yes

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                                    smartygirl Nov 23, 2010 08:50 AM

                                    oh, i'm trying that tonight.

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                                    MandalayVA Dec 29, 2009 05:06 AM

                                    I do the same thing. I've never been a big fan of glazed ham.

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