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Get ready for more Guy Fieri

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http://www.tvsquad.com/2009/12/17/get...

Aparently the tv public is asking for less Chef and more Guy.

  1. He's entertaining. I like him.

    Look at Gordon Ramsay. He's entertaining too. I like him as well.

    Entertainment that is exciting is what people like. Blonde spikey hair and a loud voice.

    Lights! Camera! Action!

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    1. re: paris221966

      Entertainment that is exciting is what people like. Blonde spikey hair and a loud voice.
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~
      Perhaps some people. Perhaps you. But there are plenty of people who dislike what he and The Food Network (and now NBC) spew out. It's mostly a lot about nothing.

      1. re: LindaWhit

        Why should I dislike the Food Network? What have they ever done to me?

        You must realize how many people in the world watch that channel. The Food Network makes millions of dollars. They must do something right.

        1. re: paris221966

          This conversation has been had many times here - what the Food Network *was* is light years away from what is has become. It *was* about food - hence, the name - The Food Network.

          It is hardly that anymore. Blonde spikey hair and a loud voice are proof positive. It now appeals to a lower common denominator who seem to only want LOUD and nothingness in their shows. Which is why many people don't watch - it isn't what it was.

          But if that's your taste in television, so be it.

          1. re: LindaWhit

            Maybe what is up next is that they have Jersey Shores "Snickers" punch Guy into his face or something to attract more viewers.

            To be honest, why should they stay in their niche if they can grow the other way.
            Thanks to DVR and Internet one can pick easily cherry pick.

            1. re: jk1002

              Their niche has changed so much from what they were that they should really rename the network - as they are really no longer about food.

              And I wouldn't put it past them to have the Jersey Shore folk on one of their shows. Again - a pretty low common denominator.

              1. re: LindaWhit

                What show on FN isn't really about food? The majority of FN viewers aren't looking for anything deeper than how to cook a decent meal for their family, or where to get a fun bite. Or, they just want to watch someone else cook something that looks good. Their viewers aren't food snobs whose lives revolve around being a food snob and never "stooping" as "low" as someone like Guy, and that's not who FN is trying to reach anyway.

                1. re: irishnyc

                  I was wondering the same thing- as far as I can see every show is about food. I like the FN, and choose not to watch the shows that I don't like. I do like Guy, though, and have found some fun out of the way spots through him that I wouldn't have tried.

                  I wonder if those who have such strong negative feelings about the FN are the same ones who get annoyed when a band that they like gets popular.....

                  1. re: jessicheese

                    " wonder if those who have such strong negative feelings about the FN are the same ones who get annoyed when a band that they like gets popular....."

                    It's more like when the band that you liked stops making music and all go on Dancing With the Stars.

                    1. re: jessicheese

                      I agree with your comparison to a band "selling out". Some people are like that with chef's or restaurants. They like the restaurant when they think its their own special secret and then when it becomes more popular or expands to a second location they no longer like it. Same thing with bands that finally get their big break. I've never understood either behavior.

                      With Guy however I don't think that's the case. I think people see Guy's flashy look and think that he is a gimmick.

                      My posts haven't really been in defense of Guy but more about the general state of foodies ganging up against certain personalities. These foodies all seem to hate Rachel Ray, Guy, Sandra Lee and Emeril. Well they hated Emeril until Anthony Bourdain said that in fact Emeril has really good restaurants. These same people also love Top Chef, No Reservations and America's Test Kitchen. All of those shows I love by the way. But the foodie has become so stereotypical that its gotten old when these same old complaints continue to be posted.

                      That's why I hate the term foodies and never want to be classified as such.

                      1. re: jessicheese

                        To both of you: how is "Ace of Cakes" about food? I can't imagine actually eating any of those monstrosities. Many of the contest shows are more design than they are about food that's being made to eat.

                        I actually like Guy's "Diners, Drive-ins, and Dives", but the "Big Bite" is small time to me. "Kitchen Nightmares" is OK, but the "F Word" and "Hell's Kitchen" - pass. I wish Rachel Ray could expand her vocabulary beyond "Yummo!", but I've gotten good ideas from "30 Minute Meals".

                        But all these contrived "contests" - from Iron Chef to Top Chef to Chopped to "America's Best....." - they bore me to tears. And that's why I watch FN less and less.

                        1. re: FrankD

                          How is Ace of Cakes about food? Well a cake is food. Wedding cakes are a huge business in the food industry. Its a reality show similar to American Choppers, Deadliest Catch or Pawn Stars. It's following a group of people that make cakes. What's not to understand? Not every food show has to be instructional in nature.

                          I'm not a huge fan of Rachel Ray but if you honestly think she says Yummo every episode then I'm guessing you haven't actually watched much of the show and instead simply based your opinion based on a stereotype. Rachel Ray is not for everyone but one real positive about her is that she encouraged thousands of people to try cooking meals on their own instead of just heating up a TV dinner. If you love food then you can respect that impact.

                          It just sounds to me like you enjoy the instructional shows more then other formats. But you have to realize that a network needs to have a variety of shows on their network. They can't show instructional shows 100% of the time.

                          1. re: hudsonvalleyfoodblog

                            Seeing as how RR's non-profit organization is called Yum-o and she has a cookbook by the same name it would seem she embraces the term and uses often enough to be her catch phrase.

                            1. re: hudsonvalleyfoodblog

                              I took a course in Childrens Lit in college. My professor told us soemthing I've never forgotten which was that while the Nancy Drew book series was not literature of the highest quality, it definitely helped get a generation of girls reading. I think of that often when I watch Rachel Ray.

                    2. re: LindaWhit

                      Wow. Seems to me you have the option of not watching it - not sure why you also feel it's necessary to insult the people that do.

                      I have nothing against him - he has never claimed to be more than he is and from there people can choose to watch or not. Clearly plenty of people are choosing the former.

                      1. re: RoxyGrl

                        ". . .not sure why you also feel it's necessary to insult the people that do. "

                        It gives these armchair quarterbacks a false sense of superiority, that is why. Same said people watch their own fill of inane t.v. shows.

                        Any decent-looking, enthusiastic t.v. personality seems to get drenched with negative comments on these boards. Sour grapes, people, sour grapes.

                      2. re: LindaWhit

                        why does the color or style of his hair matter? If you only cared about food why does his hair matter?

                    3. re: LindaWhit

                      So you don't like a show that gives some attention to small family own business across the country that typically do not get any press? I think Diners, Dives and Driveins is a decent show. Who cares if he has spiked hair? That's his style, it's not a put on just for TV.

                  2. How much lower can the food network go?

                    Soon it will like MTV, I remember when they used to play videos, soon some of us will reminisce about the Food Network being about chefs and food, not personalities and egos.

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                    1. re: RetiredChef

                      The show isn't on the Food Network. It will be on NBC.

                      1. re: KTinNYC

                        Doesn't look like it is about food either...

                        1. re: KTinNYC

                          WOW - didn't realize that, if it sells good for him.

                      2. The last sentence in that blurb pretty much says it all: "Is it just me or does that summary really tell you nothing about the show?"

                          1. re: HillJ

                            Since many food-related programming has evolved into "reality tv".. winning a prize, a chance at Chef-dom, more than 15 mins. of fame television (on many channels)...the "move" to game show host doesn't seem like much of a stretch. Guy's energy is on par with say a fairly new comic turned game show host, Howie Mandel...and look at the various incarnations of Howie's career. I was humored by the idea that a "guy" who won a contest on FN is now offered a game show host title. That's why I posted the article(s). Life is funny. I love the irony.

                            1. re: HillJ

                              Did you notice the article mentioned Guy would also be appearing in Playboy? As a centerfold? ;-)

                              1. re: ChinoWayne

                                lol, Chino...it's just an article...don't you read Playboy for the articles? food tips? :)

                                1. re: HillJ

                                  There is more than pictures in Playboy, who woulda known? ;-)

                          2. Good for him! I really like DD&D.

                            Listen, the other day, I saw Lidia Bastianich shilling on QVC. These days, chefs are media and money whores, and you know what? If I were in their shoes, I'd probably do the same.

                            And yeah, that dig about FN appealing to the " lower common denominator" is way out of line. And if that's what you think, then consider me a member of the " lower common denominator." Better that than being so judgmental.

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                            1. re: gloriousfood

                              I'm with you on your first two points G.

                              You have to make hay while the sun shines. In 10 years Guy (And probably some of the others) will be old news. If he can make as much as he can now, so much the better. The ones who survive are the ones who can roll with the times. Re-invent themselves. The one trick ponies get weeded out.

                              As for finding the "Lowest common denominator" comment out of line. It's not. It's not meant to be an insult. It's meant that FTV (As with any other product) is looking to find the broadest audience. If it were all about cooking, many people would be turned off for various reasons. Most people want to turn on their TV's and turn off their brain. Sit back, relax and be entertained. There's nothing wrong with that. I like to do that. I also like to learn sometimes too. It doesn't mean I'm part of the LCD. It just means I'm part of the masses.

                              DT

                              1. re: Davwud

                                I like how you spun the "lowest common denominator" into something positive (I think!). :) And I agree with your comments.

                                I'll never forget how, on September 11 (I live in Manhattan, not far away from the WTC site), it was a godsend to turn to the Food Network, since it was one of the few channels that was not reporting on the event of that day. To be able to turn away from the tragedy right outside my front door and all over the TV, even for 30 minutes or so, was to maintain some sense of normalcy on that otherwise awful day (and the days that follow).

                                You know, sometimes, it's not just about the food.

                                1. re: gloriousfood

                                  There was a thread a few years back regarding how many people starting watching the FN after 9/11 (including me). It was a tremendous source of comfort to turn away from the news.