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HillJ Dec 19, 2009 06:06 AM

http://www.tvsquad.com/2009/12/17/get...

Aparently the tv public is asking for less Chef and more Guy.

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  1. paris221966 Dec 19, 2009 03:26 PM

    He's entertaining. I like him.

    Look at Gordon Ramsay. He's entertaining too. I like him as well.

    Entertainment that is exciting is what people like. Blonde spikey hair and a loud voice.

    Lights! Camera! Action!

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      LindaWhit Dec 20, 2009 02:11 PM

      Entertainment that is exciting is what people like. Blonde spikey hair and a loud voice.
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      Perhaps some people. Perhaps you. But there are plenty of people who dislike what he and The Food Network (and now NBC) spew out. It's mostly a lot about nothing.

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        paris221966 Dec 20, 2009 03:44 PM

        Why should I dislike the Food Network? What have they ever done to me?

        You must realize how many people in the world watch that channel. The Food Network makes millions of dollars. They must do something right.

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          LindaWhit Dec 20, 2009 03:57 PM

          This conversation has been had many times here - what the Food Network *was* is light years away from what is has become. It *was* about food - hence, the name - The Food Network.

          It is hardly that anymore. Blonde spikey hair and a loud voice are proof positive. It now appeals to a lower common denominator who seem to only want LOUD and nothingness in their shows. Which is why many people don't watch - it isn't what it was.

          But if that's your taste in television, so be it.

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            jk1002 Dec 20, 2009 04:57 PM

            Maybe what is up next is that they have Jersey Shores "Snickers" punch Guy into his face or something to attract more viewers.

            To be honest, why should they stay in their niche if they can grow the other way.
            Thanks to DVR and Internet one can pick easily cherry pick.

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              LindaWhit Dec 20, 2009 06:43 PM

              Their niche has changed so much from what they were that they should really rename the network - as they are really no longer about food.

              And I wouldn't put it past them to have the Jersey Shore folk on one of their shows. Again - a pretty low common denominator.

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                irishnyc Dec 25, 2009 03:58 AM

                What show on FN isn't really about food? The majority of FN viewers aren't looking for anything deeper than how to cook a decent meal for their family, or where to get a fun bite. Or, they just want to watch someone else cook something that looks good. Their viewers aren't food snobs whose lives revolve around being a food snob and never "stooping" as "low" as someone like Guy, and that's not who FN is trying to reach anyway.

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                  jessicheese Dec 29, 2009 12:03 PM

                  I was wondering the same thing- as far as I can see every show is about food. I like the FN, and choose not to watch the shows that I don't like. I do like Guy, though, and have found some fun out of the way spots through him that I wouldn't have tried.

                  I wonder if those who have such strong negative feelings about the FN are the same ones who get annoyed when a band that they like gets popular.....

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                    KTinNYC Dec 29, 2009 12:11 PM

                    " wonder if those who have such strong negative feelings about the FN are the same ones who get annoyed when a band that they like gets popular....."

                    It's more like when the band that you liked stops making music and all go on Dancing With the Stars.

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                      hudsonvalleyfoodblog Dec 29, 2009 02:56 PM

                      I agree with your comparison to a band "selling out". Some people are like that with chef's or restaurants. They like the restaurant when they think its their own special secret and then when it becomes more popular or expands to a second location they no longer like it. Same thing with bands that finally get their big break. I've never understood either behavior.

                      With Guy however I don't think that's the case. I think people see Guy's flashy look and think that he is a gimmick.

                      My posts haven't really been in defense of Guy but more about the general state of foodies ganging up against certain personalities. These foodies all seem to hate Rachel Ray, Guy, Sandra Lee and Emeril. Well they hated Emeril until Anthony Bourdain said that in fact Emeril has really good restaurants. These same people also love Top Chef, No Reservations and America's Test Kitchen. All of those shows I love by the way. But the foodie has become so stereotypical that its gotten old when these same old complaints continue to be posted.

                      That's why I hate the term foodies and never want to be classified as such.

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                        FrankD Jan 1, 2010 08:10 AM

                        To both of you: how is "Ace of Cakes" about food? I can't imagine actually eating any of those monstrosities. Many of the contest shows are more design than they are about food that's being made to eat.

                        I actually like Guy's "Diners, Drive-ins, and Dives", but the "Big Bite" is small time to me. "Kitchen Nightmares" is OK, but the "F Word" and "Hell's Kitchen" - pass. I wish Rachel Ray could expand her vocabulary beyond "Yummo!", but I've gotten good ideas from "30 Minute Meals".

                        But all these contrived "contests" - from Iron Chef to Top Chef to Chopped to "America's Best....." - they bore me to tears. And that's why I watch FN less and less.

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                          hudsonvalleyfoodblog Jan 3, 2010 04:53 PM

                          How is Ace of Cakes about food? Well a cake is food. Wedding cakes are a huge business in the food industry. Its a reality show similar to American Choppers, Deadliest Catch or Pawn Stars. It's following a group of people that make cakes. What's not to understand? Not every food show has to be instructional in nature.

                          I'm not a huge fan of Rachel Ray but if you honestly think she says Yummo every episode then I'm guessing you haven't actually watched much of the show and instead simply based your opinion based on a stereotype. Rachel Ray is not for everyone but one real positive about her is that she encouraged thousands of people to try cooking meals on their own instead of just heating up a TV dinner. If you love food then you can respect that impact.

                          It just sounds to me like you enjoy the instructional shows more then other formats. But you have to realize that a network needs to have a variety of shows on their network. They can't show instructional shows 100% of the time.

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                            KTinNYC Jan 3, 2010 04:58 PM

                            Seeing as how RR's non-profit organization is called Yum-o and she has a cookbook by the same name it would seem she embraces the term and uses often enough to be her catch phrase.

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                              southernitalian Jan 4, 2010 08:14 AM

                              I took a course in Childrens Lit in college. My professor told us soemthing I've never forgotten which was that while the Nancy Drew book series was not literature of the highest quality, it definitely helped get a generation of girls reading. I think of that often when I watch Rachel Ray.

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                                hudsonvalleyfoodblog Jan 4, 2010 05:49 PM

                                Perfect analogy

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                                  irishnyc Jan 5, 2010 06:07 PM

                                  Agreed. Perfect.

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                      RoxyGrl Dec 21, 2009 11:53 PM

                      Wow. Seems to me you have the option of not watching it - not sure why you also feel it's necessary to insult the people that do.

                      I have nothing against him - he has never claimed to be more than he is and from there people can choose to watch or not. Clearly plenty of people are choosing the former.

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                        globocity Dec 24, 2009 03:25 PM

                        ". . .not sure why you also feel it's necessary to insult the people that do. "

                        It gives these armchair quarterbacks a false sense of superiority, that is why. Same said people watch their own fill of inane t.v. shows.

                        Any decent-looking, enthusiastic t.v. personality seems to get drenched with negative comments on these boards. Sour grapes, people, sour grapes.

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                        hudsonvalleyfoodblog Dec 28, 2009 10:16 AM

                        why does the color or style of his hair matter? If you only cared about food why does his hair matter?

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                      hudsonvalleyfoodblog Dec 28, 2009 10:15 AM

                      So you don't like a show that gives some attention to small family own business across the country that typically do not get any press? I think Diners, Dives and Driveins is a decent show. Who cares if he has spiked hair? That's his style, it's not a put on just for TV.

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                  2. RetiredChef Dec 20, 2009 07:47 AM

                    How much lower can the food network go?

                    Soon it will like MTV, I remember when they used to play videos, soon some of us will reminisce about the Food Network being about chefs and food, not personalities and egos.

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                      KTinNYC Dec 20, 2009 09:02 AM

                      The show isn't on the Food Network. It will be on NBC.

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                        Clarkafella Dec 20, 2009 09:26 AM

                        Doesn't look like it is about food either...

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                          RetiredChef Dec 20, 2009 09:27 AM

                          WOW - didn't realize that, if it sells good for him.

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                      2. LindaWhit Dec 20, 2009 02:10 PM

                        The last sentence in that blurb pretty much says it all: "Is it just me or does that summary really tell you nothing about the show?"

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                          HillJ Dec 21, 2009 04:37 AM

                          http://www.thewrap.com/ind-column/tis-gift-be-simple-new-gameshow-craze-7966

                          http://www.thewrap.com/ind-column/nbc...

                          Show detail.

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                            HillJ Dec 21, 2009 05:52 AM

                            Since many food-related programming has evolved into "reality tv".. winning a prize, a chance at Chef-dom, more than 15 mins. of fame television (on many channels)...the "move" to game show host doesn't seem like much of a stretch. Guy's energy is on par with say a fairly new comic turned game show host, Howie Mandel...and look at the various incarnations of Howie's career. I was humored by the idea that a "guy" who won a contest on FN is now offered a game show host title. That's why I posted the article(s). Life is funny. I love the irony.

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                              ChinoWayne Dec 24, 2009 05:55 PM

                              Did you notice the article mentioned Guy would also be appearing in Playboy? As a centerfold? ;-)

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                                HillJ Dec 25, 2009 06:16 AM

                                lol, Chino...it's just an article...don't you read Playboy for the articles? food tips? :)

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                                  ChinoWayne Dec 25, 2009 06:49 AM

                                  There is more than pictures in Playboy, who woulda known? ;-)

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                            gloriousfood Dec 21, 2009 05:07 AM

                            Good for him! I really like DD&D.

                            Listen, the other day, I saw Lidia Bastianich shilling on QVC. These days, chefs are media and money whores, and you know what? If I were in their shoes, I'd probably do the same.

                            And yeah, that dig about FN appealing to the " lower common denominator" is way out of line. And if that's what you think, then consider me a member of the " lower common denominator." Better that than being so judgmental.

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                              Davwud Dec 30, 2009 03:30 AM

                              I'm with you on your first two points G.

                              You have to make hay while the sun shines. In 10 years Guy (And probably some of the others) will be old news. If he can make as much as he can now, so much the better. The ones who survive are the ones who can roll with the times. Re-invent themselves. The one trick ponies get weeded out.

                              As for finding the "Lowest common denominator" comment out of line. It's not. It's not meant to be an insult. It's meant that FTV (As with any other product) is looking to find the broadest audience. If it were all about cooking, many people would be turned off for various reasons. Most people want to turn on their TV's and turn off their brain. Sit back, relax and be entertained. There's nothing wrong with that. I like to do that. I also like to learn sometimes too. It doesn't mean I'm part of the LCD. It just means I'm part of the masses.

                              DT

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                                gloriousfood Dec 30, 2009 09:10 AM

                                I like how you spun the "lowest common denominator" into something positive (I think!). :) And I agree with your comments.

                                I'll never forget how, on September 11 (I live in Manhattan, not far away from the WTC site), it was a godsend to turn to the Food Network, since it was one of the few channels that was not reporting on the event of that day. To be able to turn away from the tragedy right outside my front door and all over the TV, even for 30 minutes or so, was to maintain some sense of normalcy on that otherwise awful day (and the days that follow).

                                You know, sometimes, it's not just about the food.

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                                  southernitalian Dec 30, 2009 09:37 AM

                                  There was a thread a few years back regarding how many people starting watching the FN after 9/11 (including me). It was a tremendous source of comfort to turn away from the news.

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                            2. mels Dec 24, 2009 07:37 AM

                              I don't mind the money whore aspects of food personalities, or even the dumbing down of Food TV (soon to be known as Cake Challenge TV)...what bugs me is some of the specific personalities, especially Guy Fieri. He is just so mid-1990s, with his tired Swingers-era phrases and that passe look. He's kind of like Richard Simmons...time marches on but the look stays stuck in one era. To make matters worse, you know he thinks he is (to quote Guy's 1990s phrases) "da bomb."

                              I could go on and on about sandra Lee, but I'll stay on topic. ;)

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                                Evilbanana11 Dec 24, 2009 11:20 AM

                                I like him. He's much better than the dull people we have on FN Canada.

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                                  KTinNYC Dec 24, 2009 11:37 AM

                                  He's good in measures. But if you get too much it's beyond annoying.

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                                2. Cherylptw Dec 24, 2009 04:05 PM

                                  I'm insulted by the " lower common denominator" comment..I compete in recipe cook-offs and was a competitor on Food Network's Ultimate Recipe Showdown 2 last season. Guy is the host of the show and could absolutely not have been more genuine and nice (I actually got a chance to run my fingers through the spiky hair...felt kinda weird :-) No, I didn't win the show but I'm here to tell you that I'm just biding my time until I get the opportunity again.

                                  Cooking is my passion as is for most of the people who compete on those FN shows.
                                  I was honored that a network of their influence & caliber thought my recipe was good enough to be chosen as competition on a show seen by millions. For someone to run off negativity about a generalized group of people is like saying all men are wife beaters or all women are weak.

                                  It would be impossible for everyone to like everything that every channel has to offer. That's why there's a remote control and/or a knob to turn the channel.

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                                    The Dairy Queen Dec 25, 2009 01:46 AM

                                    What was your recipe?

                                    P.S. I like DDD in small doses. I can't bear watching every episode, but I do think it's sweet that these small mom and pop places are getting featured on television and that these folks take such great pride in their cooking. I'm always astonished by the cooking scenes and seeing how much butter and cream, etc. gets used in restaurant cooking...

                                    ~TDQ

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                                      Cherylptw Dec 25, 2009 02:54 PM

                                      I'm not saying I like every show because I don't...Rachael Ray gets on my nerves, but I just turn the channel....

                                      The signature recipe is Seafood Stuffed Trout with Drizzled Citrus Butter:
                                      http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/seafood-stuffed-trout-drizzled-with-citrus-butter-recipe/index.html

                                      My speed round recipe: http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/ca...

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                                        The Dairy Queen Dec 27, 2009 03:18 AM

                                        Interesting, thanks for sharing! Funny, I can't view your second recipe without registering. I've never encountered that before on the FN site. Nevertheless, thank you for sharing your recipes. It sounds like a fun experience for you.

                                        ~TDQ

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                                      LindaWhit Dec 25, 2009 04:42 AM

                                      And that is my point. It's now about competitions. It's not really teaching people how to cook - WHY you sear, how to cut up a chicken, etc. TFN *used* to have some pretty decent teaching cooking shows. But now it's competition. More power to you if that's what you want...obviously, the majority of its viewing audience want competitions vs. learning how to cook something themselves. But to me, they're light years away from what they used to be good at...teaching people about food.

                                      Hence, my comment about changing their name from the Food Network to something else - they're no longer really about food.

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                                        Servorg Dec 26, 2009 06:06 AM

                                        Good Eats seems pretty focused on teaching cooking techniques (and even explaining the science behind the scenes) as far as I can tell.

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                                          LindaWhit Dec 26, 2009 10:42 AM

                                          Good Eats is about it. But interestingly, those interested in the competition shows are rarely interested in something like Good Eats.

                                          But obviously the market will bear the competition shows, as evidenced by TFN's turn towards shows like that vs. the cooking shows they used to have, such as Sara Moulton (always enjoyed her shows).

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                                          kmcarr Dec 26, 2009 06:45 AM

                                          There is far more to food than just teaching people how to cook. If the network were run the way you seem to want I would say that the name "Food Network" was wrong because it was too broad. The network you seem want would more appropriately be called "The Instructional Cooking Network".

                                          Further I disagree that the network no longer has decent instructional programs. I learn things from Good Eats, Secrets of a Restaurant Chef, Tyler's Ultimate. How many shows do you need to teach someone how to cut up a chicken?

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                                            LindaWhit Dec 26, 2009 10:52 AM

                                            kmcarr, the network I want is something that is NOT virtually exclusively instructional cooking. But what I *would* like at least is MORE cooking, vs. twenty different competition shows or discussion about how candy or other processed foods are made on Unwrapped, or someone like Sandra Lee, or eleventeen shows with Rachael Ray trying to make a recipe in 30 minutes which most people agree can't be made in 30 minutes unless you have a staff that preps all the food for you, or four or five or seven "road trip" shows.

                                            But I doubt TFN will ever go that route again - they get too many advertising dollars from companies who want to showcase their processed foods. And yes, I know they're in the business to make money. But at what cost? I don't see someone just getting into cooking learning much from TFN; they'd do better getting a few good cookbooks or watching the shows on PBS...and hopefully, they do if they're really interested in cooking.

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                                              danhole Dec 28, 2009 07:33 AM

                                              I really don't watch the food channel on a regular basis, but have been up late at night and caught Good Eats, which I do like and have learned a couple things from. Now I don't like it enough to watch it on a regular basis, but if I am channel surfing and it's on I will stop. There are a couple other that I will watch if I happen upon them. PBS is my favorite and I do watch that as much as possible. It is great, a good variety of shows, and I learn so much more from those shows.

                                              I have been watching Guy's DDD show, but only because he was in Houston this past summer and has been showing some of our restaurants. I check the schedule and if Houston is featured, I watch. Otherwise, I don't.

                                              His new game show, which has nothing to do with the Food network folks, is something I might watch, just to see if it is a fun game. If it isn't . . . well I would never watch any game show based upon who the host is. Do people watch Wheel of Fortune because they LOVE Pat and Vanna? I don't think so. It's a neat game and that is why you watch.

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                                                HillJ Dec 28, 2009 07:35 AM

                                                um...judging by Vanna's own career (ie, books, crafts, clothing line) I'd say someone is watching wheel for Vanna :)

                                                Maybe its the homebase co. producing FN that is expanding it's tv lineup...
                                                eta: I mean Scripps Network.

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                                                  danhole Dec 28, 2009 07:57 AM

                                                  I don't think FN has anything to do with this game show. NBC copies FN, but wouldn't go to them to co-produce a show. That's my opinion. This article say it is from Universal Media and Friday Television.

                                                  http://www.thewrap.com/ind-column/nbc...

                                                  As far as Vanna goes, all I can say is I had no idea she had books, clothing and crafts. If someone is watching just for Vanna, then they only get to see her turn letters, and exchange banter with Pat. I watch the show, once in awhile, just to see if I can solve the puzzle before the contestants.

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                                                    HillJ Dec 28, 2009 08:28 AM

                                                    No FN doesn't have anything to do with the NBC game show. My thought, a question I'll continue to watch unfold, is over the company that owns FN and other programming. What is offered on the FN channel in the future should be interesting to watch. FN has already changed so much of its perspective, I'm curious where all of the diff "tries at new shows" is heading next.

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                                                      Clarkafella Dec 28, 2009 08:49 AM

                                                      Well, they already did "The Next Food Network *Star*", my guess is they will try "The Next Food Network *Show*", which will have people from around the country pitching ideas to a panel comprised of Donald Trump, Paris Hilton and the ghost of Dave Thomas...

                                                      I'll probably watch it, 'cause I think Paris is hot...

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                                                        HillJ Dec 28, 2009 09:00 AM

                                                        See now Clarkafella, I'm holding out for a Rock n Rolla Chef show. Personal chefs to the singing rockin famous, what rockstars chow on....a music/food show.

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                                              KTinNYC Dec 27, 2009 05:43 AM

                                              I would gladly take a channel with almost exclusively teaching people how to cook. the Food Network barely scratches the surface when it comes to cooking. TVFN basically centers around North American cooking less Mexico and "Italian" cuisine. There is an entire world that is being ignored. If you think TVFN is teaching you enough about food then that's great but I for one would be interested in shows focusing on regional Chinese food, Mexican food, Middle Eastern food, Spanish food, etc. etc. The channel is crap when it comes to teaching about food. When's the last time you learned something new about cooking from TVFN? Not a recipe but technique.

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                                                whs Dec 29, 2009 04:45 PM

                                                Caught an old episode of Julia Child--essentially a half an hour watching her truss a chicken. It did not make for riveting TV, though her oblique reference to the qualities that define a capon was amusing. I don't think you're going to get market share with shows about technique.

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                                              hudsonvalleyfoodblog Dec 28, 2009 10:33 AM

                                              I by no means think that the Food Network is perfect or beyond critizim. However I do feel that among "foodies" bashing the network has become the cool thing to do and I personally think it's tired. The food network isn't only about teaching cooking, it's about covering all things food which includes competitions. They need diversity. If every single show was intructional it would be very boring.

                                              Plus although you might not like Rachel Ray she does teach a ton of people how to cook. She's not training them to become Michelin star chef's just how to make a halfway decent meal. But to me the elite foodies spend their time critizing her knife skills instead of realizing that she has turned millions of people onto cooking. If you truly love food you have to respect that even if her show isn't for you. Just for the record I am not a regular viewer of her show but I do respect what she has accomplished.

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                                                KTinNYC Dec 28, 2009 10:39 AM

                                                "They need diversity."

                                                There is absoluntely zero diversity on TVFN. It's all North American cooking excluding Mexico. Just about every host makes the same dishes over and over again. If you think there is diversity on the network you are living with blinders on.

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                                                  hudsonvalleyfoodblog Dec 28, 2009 10:57 AM

                                                  Diversity in the style of TV shows (cooking, reality, travel, competition, ect). I never said anything about diversity in cuisine. Again, I'm not a huge fan of the network.

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                                              KTinNYC Dec 25, 2009 06:24 AM

                                              Your story illustrates exactly the transformation of Food Network from a network about cooking to a network about trying to entertain people with programming associated with food. I guarantee no recipes were given on the show you featured. No one learned any technique and it may as well have been a hair styling competition. Cooking is ancillary on the Food Network and LindaWhit is right when she said it panders to the lowest common denominator.

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                                                Cherylptw Dec 25, 2009 03:07 PM

                                                You're both entitled to your opinions and so are the those of us who feel differently, obviously Food Network's popularity is high enough that they think so too and really, do you think that the network cares if they loose a few viewers as opposed to the majority? They think not...That's why there's freedom of choice...watch PBS instead.

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                                                  KTinNYC Dec 25, 2009 06:08 PM

                                                  So in your mind popularity equates to quality? Then USA Today is America's greatest newspaper, Titanic is the most outstanding movie of all time and McDonald's is the best restaurant in the nation. Great.

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                                                    Honeychan Dec 25, 2009 06:11 PM

                                                    I bet there are LOTS of people who do think just that. Kinda scary, if you ask me!

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                                                hudsonvalleyfoodblog Dec 28, 2009 10:21 AM

                                                I know someone who spent some time with Guy as well and confirmed that he is one of the nicest and most genuine people you'll ever meet. Great post and keep on cooking with passion. People that only look at the negative are likely lacking the passion you have.

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                                                ML8000 Dec 24, 2009 04:54 PM

                                                Guy Fieri is the Bob Uecker of the food world but with less charm.

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                                                  LindaWhit Dec 25, 2009 04:42 AM

                                                  Well put.

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                                                    Honeychan Dec 25, 2009 03:02 PM

                                                    This made me laugh WAAYY too much! In small doses, I can handle Guy Fieri. His "look and lingo" I can do without, but I dig the guy's zazz and energy. DD&D is a fun show. But then again, I also like Robert Irvine in doses, as well. (no boos from the Peanut Gallery!)
                                                    Will I watch a gameshow with Guy? I'm not into them to begin with, so no. Will others? I'm sure of it.

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                                                    Christmas greetings with this very clever telling of an FNH Night Before Christmas:

                                                    http://foodnetworkhumor.com/2009/12/t...

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                                                      hudsonvalleyfoodblog Dec 28, 2009 10:12 AM

                                                      What's wrong with Guy? I think he's pretty genuine and enjoyable to watch.

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                                                        iluvcookies Dec 29, 2009 09:04 AM

                                                        Agreed. And can anyone blame him for taking the job?

                                                        "Hey, howdya like to drive around in a classic car, eat really good junk food and be on TV?"
                                                        I'd do it for free... well for the food anyway.

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                                                          hudsonvalleyfoodblog Dec 29, 2009 10:03 AM

                                                          And the really ironic thing is that a lot of chow hounds on this board write about the same type of places that Guy visits on his show.

                                                          I believe these people think that Guy spiked his hair just for TV. The truth is that was his style long before he was on TV. So keeping the spiked hair is actually being genuine. If he changed it to a more professional look, as some seem to prefer, then that's something I'd have an issue with. To me Guy is being himself.

                                                          Just like Anthony Bourdain is being himself when he wears tight jeans, cowboy boots and the same old Yankees t-shirt. Both guys are being themselves although both are very different types of people. Neither one is more honest or genuine.

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                                                            LindaWhit Dec 29, 2009 01:33 PM

                                                            No, "these people" don't think that he went platinum blonde, spiked his hair, and chose to wear sunglasses on the back of his head just for TV. Please give some of "these people" a little credit. "These people" are fully aware he's stuck in the late 80s/early 90s (although per the Playboy article below posted by HillJ, he only went platinum 10 years ago).

                                                            And Anthony Bourdain doesn't yell when he speaks; Bourdain doesn't have to use trite phrases like "that's money", "winner, winner, chicken dinner" or "that's off the hook". He's a good bit more erudite than that.

                                                            Then again, loud, overblown, and trite phrases are perfect for a game show. I guess Guy Fieri is good for that arena. Enjoy watching.

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                                                              hudsonvalleyfoodblog Dec 29, 2009 03:03 PM

                                                              Ok, we get it. You don't like him. But why the need to endlessly bash him? Everything that you and others have posted about Guy has all been said before. No one is saying anything new, interesting or unique. So why do it? To me it just seems mean spirited.

                                                              I have no interest in defending Guy. I rarely watch his show, never been to his restaurants and don't own any of his books. I just think these "I hate ..." posts are boring and unnecessary.

                                                              I love food because of all the positives associated with it. To me food is about passion, about sharing it with people you love, sharing cultures. Food feeds the body and the soul and its such a great thing to be interested in. But this culture that has developed within some people which just bashes people or restaurants is really ashame. I goes against all the things i love about food. I just don't see a place for it.

                                                              Sorry, that's just me.

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                                                                LindaWhit Dec 29, 2009 07:56 PM

                                                                Please tell me WHERE I said "I hate"? I didn't. I just said this (the GAME show is what the original post was about!) was another unneeded show on television.

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                                                                whs Dec 29, 2009 04:41 PM

                                                                Bourdain's smugness and superiority are far more annoying than Fieri's silliness.

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                                                                  gloriousfood Dec 29, 2009 04:45 PM

                                                                  Thank you, and a big AMEN to that!

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                                                                    KTinNYC Dec 29, 2009 04:47 PM

                                                                    "Bourdain's smugness and superiority is far more annoying than Fieri's silliness."

                                                                    I agree, Bourdain is superior to Guy.

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                                                                      hudsonvalleyfoodblog Dec 29, 2009 05:04 PM

                                                                      Agreed, No Reservations is probably my favorite show on TV. I'm always annoyed when the show ends. Never seems long enough.

                                                                      But Bourdain also has his shtick as well. He plays the overly snarky guy to a T. Now I do think that's his natural personality. Just like I think Guy's natural personality is boisterous and colorful, just like he is on TV.

                                                                      I wouldn't expect both personalities to appeal to the same audiences but I don't think one is superior to the other.

                                                                      I'm beating a dead horse but I think you see where I'm coming from.

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                                                                        LindaWhit Dec 29, 2009 07:50 PM

                                                                        I agree, Bourdain is superior to Guy.
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                                                                          whs Dec 30, 2009 02:56 AM

                                                                          and creepier and more supercilious.

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                                                                            gloriousfood Dec 30, 2009 09:13 AM

                                                                            I wonder what would happen if you brought the two of them together? Would it be like Freddy vs. Jason? Predator vs. Alien?

                                                                            I actually think they would get along. One is the Ying to the other's Yang.

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                                                                              The Dairy Queen Dec 30, 2009 09:34 AM

                                                                              I don't know, but I once saw one of those food network specials (I can't really remember what it was, it was some kind of outdoor festival and they were all demo'ing some kind of outdoor/bbq'ing/grilling techniques) and Bobby Flay and Guy Fieri were on stage at the same time. I thought Flay was going to kill Fieri. He seemed to be super irritated by him. I think Bourdain would have a low low tolerance for B.S. But, who knows.

                                                                              ~TDQ

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                                                                                gloriousfood Jan 11, 2010 11:45 AM

                                                                                And I was right! Bourdain does "like" Guy (sort of):

                                                                                http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/...

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                                                                                KTinNYC Dec 30, 2009 09:21 AM

                                                                                With peers like Guy Fieri Bourdain has reason to be supercilious.

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                                                                                  Befuness Jan 20, 2010 12:58 PM

                                                                                  Yes, but even the mythical mighty Bourdain is a sell out chill. Anyone see him flash the Chase card on the Istanbul episode a few days ago?

                                                                                  As GF would probably say, "dude, that is so Queso Fresco!"

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                                                                                    KTinNYC Jan 20, 2010 01:07 PM

                                                                                    What's a chill?

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                                                                                      southernitalian Jan 21, 2010 11:45 AM

                                                                                      Shill.

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                                                                                      dave_c Jan 20, 2010 01:31 PM

                                                                                      They're both sellouts, but for some reason Bourdain is given a lot of slack by his fans. Maybe Bourdain "keeps it's real" by drinking, cussing and rambling on his show.

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                                                                                        KTinNYC Jan 20, 2010 05:18 PM

                                                                                        Maybe because Bourdain is literate and worked in a number of credible restaurants before he gave it all up before he sold out to work to media. After all Bourdain wrote novel even as he worked as a chef.

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                                                                                          hudsonvalleyfoodblog Jan 20, 2010 05:35 PM

                                                                                          Bourdain was an average chef at best, even he'd admit that. No one is a fan of him because of his cooking experience. He's a very good writer and TV host. If he remained a cook he'd be a nobody. That's just the truth. Writing Kitchen Confidential changed his life, and mine because its one of my favorite books and No Reservations is one of my favorite shows. But don't give me this garbage that you respect Bourdain because of what he did in the kitchen. Guy Fieri has had much more success in the restaurant business then Bourdain has.

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                                                                                            observor Jan 20, 2010 05:37 PM

                                                                                            It's been a while since I read it but I personally found the book to be overrated.

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                                                                                              KTinNYC Jan 20, 2010 06:15 PM

                                                                                              I work in publishing and Kitchen Confidential was a game changer. The worse thing you can say about Bourdain is that he is a better author then chef.

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                                                                                              KTinNYC Jan 20, 2010 05:46 PM

                                                                                              Guy owns restaurants. He is a better owner. He knows how to hype his awful restaurant but please try and find a good review of his places. As far as cooking skills? I'd put my money on Bourdain. I know AB isn't MPW or GR but he knew how to run a credible restaurant in a big market. Was it the best place in the city, no? But it did okay.

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                                                                                                hudsonvalleyfoodblog Jan 21, 2010 05:24 AM

                                                                                                I've never eaten at Guy's places so I can't comment. All I know is that he owns successful restaurants. I just deal with facts. I also know there are plenty of bad reviews for Les Halles. I have eaten at Les Halles and I'd agree with you that its ok.

                                                                                                I'm not debating who's better. It's a stupid discussion to have. All I'm debating is the double standard given to some TV hosts. Some hosts are chastised unfairly for doing the same things other chefs do and get away with.

                                                                                                Like it or not Anthony Bourdain is a celebrity because he wrote a book, not because of his cooking. Guy Fieri is a celebrity because he won a reality show. Both are on TV because they are good in front of a camera, not for what they do in front of a stove.

                                                                                                I'm not telling you what shows to like or dislike. I'm just asking for some more fair and thoughtful posts. I've been silent on this topic for over a year and finally had enough. That's why I chimed in.

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                                                                                                  KTinNYC Jan 21, 2010 06:03 AM

                                                                                                  You cannot seriously compare the cooking chops of someone who worked at a busy credible NYC restaurant to someone who owns 2 places in Sacramento that no one would have heard of unless the owner, not even the cooks, of the places won a bad reality TV show.

                                                                                                  Neither Bourdain or Fieri made their names cooking but can you can't seriously compare their experience and skill.

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                                                                                                    dave_c Jan 21, 2010 07:39 AM

                                                                                                    I do find it ironic/hypocritical that Bourdain slams on chefs for "selling out".
                                                                                                    I take what Fieri and Bourdain have to say with a grain of salt. They aren't curing cancer. They are both just entertainers. However, Bourdain does get away with a lot more.

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                                                                                                      hudsonvalleyfoodblog Jan 21, 2010 07:50 AM

                                                                                                      exactly

                                                                                                      and Bourdain has no problem throwing stones at others, so its going to come back as well when justified.

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                                                                                                        southernitalian Jan 21, 2010 11:47 AM

                                                                                                        Because he's smarter and more entertaining.

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                                                                                                        hudsonvalleyfoodblog Jan 21, 2010 07:49 AM

                                                                                                        What do you know of Bourdain's cooking experience? He worked in a average bistro in NY. He made steak frites. Let's not glorify his cooking resume. Again I love the guy but you are not looking at it objectively. It's not like he was working at Per Se.

                                                                                                        Yes, I do think owning successful restaurants is more of an achievement than being the executive chef at Les Halles.

                                                                                                        Also Guy's 1st restaurant opened in 1996, so you can't clalk up its success to only his TV presence. Those restaurants seemed to do alright before he was on TV.

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                                                                                                          KTinNYC Jan 21, 2010 08:03 AM

                                                                                                          Les Halles got decent to good reviews for years. Bourdain cooked brasserie food and he cooked it well. It's more then I can say for Guy and his restaurants.

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                                                                                                            hudsonvalleyfoodblog Jan 21, 2010 08:08 AM

                                                                                                            So I'll assume you've eaten at Guy's places?

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                                                                                                              KTinNYC Jan 21, 2010 08:11 AM

                                                                                                              Find a decent review from a credible source, go ahead try. Even Yelpers that are notorious for grade inflation can't muster more then 3 stars.

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                                                                                                        gloriousfood Jan 21, 2010 11:34 AM

                                                                                                        I agree with you that this is a stupid discussion. After all, Bourdain himself has admitted to "a grudging respect" for Fieri, so this Fieri vs. Bourdain "feud" is moot.

                                                                                                        In the end, I group most, if not all, the chefs nowadays as media and money whores. When I saw Lidia Bastianich shilling on QVC recently, it really brought home the message for me. The things is, I don't blame these chefs. Strike while you're hot. Hell, I wish I were in their shoes, shilling away and getting paid for it!

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                                                                                                          hudsonvalleyfoodblog Jan 21, 2010 12:23 PM

                                                                                                          Exactly, I don't blame them either. They should take the opportunity and make some money. That's why it seems so odd that certain people are given grief for doing it while others get a free pass.

                                                                                                          We live in a capitalist country, there is nothing wrong with getting paid.

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                                                                                                            alkapal Jan 23, 2010 06:48 AM

                                                                                                            why oh why does a chef making an appearance on QVC (or any other venue) mean they're a media and money whore and a contemptible "shill"? i am so sick of resentful people who think themselves "above all that."

                                                                                                            if someone has a product and believes in it, i am all for that person selling it, endorsing it, whatever.

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                                                                                                              gloriousfood Jan 23, 2010 08:01 AM

                                                                                                              Alk, I totally don't resent chefs for doing this. In fact, I'm envious! Give me an opportunity to make as much money as these chefs do w/their extracurricular activities, and I'll jump on it in a heartbeat. I will shill my little heart out, believe me!

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                                                                                                                Davwud Jan 23, 2010 08:48 AM

                                                                                                                Well there's just the thing. I'm quite certain that the vast majority of people will do the same. No matter how much the chastise someone else for doing it.

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                                                                                                              thew Jan 25, 2010 05:51 AM

                                                                                                              i used to be a performing video artist. one day i was bitching about something or another when someone said to me "well at least you never sold out" i replied - "no one made me an offer"

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                                                                                                            Why isn't Bourdain still involved in restaurants? Fieri seems to be able to do both.

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                                                                                                              hudsonvalleyfoodblog Jan 22, 2010 05:30 AM

                                                                                                              Bourdain worked in kitchens for most of his adult life. That is a physically grueling profession. I'm sure he was ready for a life style change. That's just my guess. I wouldn't hold it against him.

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                                                                                                                observor Jan 22, 2010 11:28 AM

                                                                                                                You can do what you like, IMO, if you're not involved in restaurants or don't have a phenomenal pedigree, I don't see how you can really go around and lecture people about cuisine.

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                                                                                                                  KTinNYC Jan 23, 2010 07:00 AM

                                                                                                                  By your standards Julia Child had no business being on TV.

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                                                                                                                    Davwud Jan 23, 2010 07:36 AM

                                                                                                                    Nor Alton Brown.

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                                                                                                                      observor Jan 24, 2010 03:29 PM

                                                                                                                      Bourdain went to the CIA, Alton Brown to the New England Culinary Institute, Julia Child went to Le Cordon Bleu...Sandra Lee went to the school of "how can I make a boatload in food"

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                                                                                                                        KTinNYC Jan 24, 2010 03:35 PM

                                                                                                                        Ten's of thousands of people have graduated from the culinary schools you mentioned. All these people have a "phenomenal pedigree" by your definition? I don't see it that way at all.

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                                                                                                                          hudsonvalleyfoodblog Jan 24, 2010 03:48 PM

                                                                                                                          During college I worked in the kitchen at a hospital. That kitchen was filled with CIA grads. The reason is that working at the hospital meant we were all in the union. So we got very good pay, health coverage and worked decent hours. These CIA grads preferred the benefits and lifestyle of working at the hospital over a restaurant kitchen which would be longer hours, pay less and mean they were working late into the night and would be away from their family.

                                                                                                                          So to your point, CIA grads work in a lot of different places. Not all of them are in fine dining. Just like all culinary school grads don't have a "phenomenal pedigree".

                                                                                                                          You and I completely agree on this topic.

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                                                                                                                          hudsonvalleyfoodblog Jan 24, 2010 03:44 PM

                                                                                                                          Alton Brown went to culinary school with the goal of having a food show. Now I don't fault him for that but it sounds like you might.

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                                                                                                                            alkapal Jan 24, 2010 04:16 PM

                                                                                                                            sandra lee went to the school of hard knocks.

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                                                                                                                              observor Jan 24, 2010 04:53 PM

                                                                                                                              That doesn't entitle you to tell me how to cook. She's a real shill, she doesn't even teach cooking she teaches how not to cook.

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                                                                                                                                alkapal Jan 24, 2010 11:36 PM

                                                                                                                                all i can say to your many "observations" is *WHEW*!

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                                                                                                                                KTinNYC Jan 24, 2010 05:17 PM

                                                                                                                                So did the guy who asks me for change every morning on the subway but I wouldn't necessarily take a lot of cooking advice from him either.

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                                                                                                                                thew Jan 25, 2010 05:52 AM

                                                                                                                                julia child went to the CIA too ;)

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                                                                                                                                  KTinNYC Jan 25, 2010 05:59 AM

                                                                                                                                  She went to the predecessor of the CIA, the OSS.

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                                                                                                                              hudsonvalleyfoodblog Jan 24, 2010 06:51 AM

                                                                                                                              so in your opinion what personalities don't meet your criteria?

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                                                                                                                  hudsonvalleyfoodblog Jan 20, 2010 05:32 PM

                                                                                                                  Yes, that Chase plug was awful. I was wondering if that was going to come up. Even worse then Yum-O.

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                                                                                                    invinotheresverde Dec 29, 2009 10:20 AM

                                                                                                    What's wrong with Guy?

                                                                                                    I'll start things off with, "Winner, winner, chicken dinner". You know, the phrase he says at least three times per show. What a creative guy.

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                                                                                                      KTinNYC Dec 29, 2009 10:27 AM

                                                                                                      I think that phrase is money and off the chain. I don't know why you would object.

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                                                                                                        Bob W Jan 14, 2010 07:58 AM

                                                                                                        But is it off the hook, too?

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                                                                                                          KTinNYC Jan 14, 2010 08:15 AM

                                                                                                          http://foodnetworkhumor.com/2009/08/t...

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                                                                                                            LindaWhit Jan 14, 2010 09:36 AM

                                                                                                            ROFL! I just read the other Top 10 Stupid Quotes there, and I have to say, the comments under each quote are priceless!

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                                                                                                              Davwud Jan 14, 2010 10:20 AM

                                                                                                              I thought it was interesting that she used "As if" when quoting Guy for using stupid quotes.

                                                                                                              I'd also like to know if she's ever eaten any of his food.

                                                                                                              Lastly, if you don't like his quotes, turn the dial or check back when Ina is on.

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                                                                                                        hudsonvalleyfoodblog Dec 29, 2009 03:05 PM

                                                                                                        not saying you have to like him but the piling on is so tired and old. If someone was actually bringing something new to the table perhaps I'd find it interesting.

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                                                                                                          invinotheresverde Dec 29, 2009 08:03 PM

                                                                                                          Maybe I'm tipsy, but I didn't notice the "Winner...dinner" quote anywhere else in this thread, which is the thing I hate most about him (besides the backwards sunglasses, of course). I didn't notice anyone else mentioning it, so I'm confused about your response.
                                                                                                          Also, I don't post my opinion for you to find it interesting. ;)

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                                                                                                            Servorg Dec 30, 2009 03:28 AM

                                                                                                            "...bu, I didn't notice the 'winner...dinner' quote anywhere else in this thread..."

                                                                                                            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/6749...

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                                                                                                              LindaWhit Dec 30, 2009 03:49 AM

                                                                                                              Which I posted 3 hours after invino did, but posted *before* reading his post. So at that time, he was correct - I don't believe it *was* posted anywhere else.

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                                                                                                                invinotheresverde Dec 30, 2009 06:15 AM

                                                                                                                Thanks, L. Also, I'm a chick.

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                                                                                                                  LindaWhit Dec 30, 2009 09:38 AM

                                                                                                                  Sorry, invino. :-)

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                                                                                                              hudsonvalleyfoodblog Dec 30, 2009 08:58 AM

                                                                                                              well the goal of everyone's posts should be to say something of interest. If you feel I insulted you I apologize because that was not my intent.

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                                                                                                        HillJ Dec 29, 2009 10:35 AM

                                                                                                        http://www.playboy.com/articles/guy-f...

                                                                                                        Love em, hat em he's a hoot! Come on CH friends, one-hit wonders have made millions off their hook lines, "unique" look and sense-isms...Guy is no different. But you gotta have a sense of humor when it comes to these topics. I can't begrudge the sheer luck or appeal even if I'm not a fan.

                                                                                                        I have a bone or two to pick with FN and the sheer laziness when they (network) have tools to do so much more but the folks making a living @ FN, working to cultivate a following and doing their thing- I cannot (again) begrudge the opportunity given. No one is beating me over the head to watch (or not watch).

                                                                                                        Guy makes me chuckle.

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                                                                                                          hudsonvalleyfoodblog Dec 29, 2009 03:07 PM

                                                                                                          agreed, way too many serious people here

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                                                                                                        2. JohnE O Dec 29, 2009 01:47 PM

                                                                                                          Not a fan of Guy, but I can watch and be entertained by 50% of what's presented on FOOD (not Chef, not Technique) Network. Considering that the major networks only show about 5% of what I want to watch, FN is ahead of the game.

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                                                                                                          1. E Eto Dec 29, 2009 03:53 PM

                                                                                                            Seems like this topic comes up over and over again.

                                                                                                            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/286514
                                                                                                            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/287499
                                                                                                            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/289974
                                                                                                            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/299525
                                                                                                            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/302542
                                                                                                            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/304643

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                                                                                                              hudsonvalleyfoodblog Dec 29, 2009 04:12 PM

                                                                                                              exactly and that's why I felt compelled to chime in this time. It's never ending with these people.

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                                                                                                                gloriousfood Dec 29, 2009 04:27 PM

                                                                                                                I was having a conversation with my niece recently, who graduated from the Culinary Institute of America, and she said that almost all the students there wish for two thngs: a show on the Food Network or a shot at Top Chef.

                                                                                                                Can't say I blame them.

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                                                                                                                  hudsonvalleyfoodblog Dec 29, 2009 04:35 PM

                                                                                                                  I have heard that as well. The CIA now offers courses in Food Media which was put together to adapt with the times. It is a growing business in the culinary industry so it makes sense.

                                                                                                                  Alton Brown for example when to culinary school in his early 30's with the sole intention of becoming the host of a food show. He was a bit ahead of his time so I think we'll see more like him in the future.

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                                                                                                                  LindaWhit Dec 29, 2009 07:54 PM

                                                                                                                  Yet again - "these people". @@

                                                                                                                  Pretty much what "these people" have said is it's WAY too much of a bad thing. It's our opinions. Just as you've expressed yours. Over and over again. It's kind of what a message board is all about, right? You have your opinion; others have theirs. We're all expressing them. We're all "these people".

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                                                                                                                    invinotheresverde Dec 29, 2009 08:04 PM

                                                                                                                    Thanks.
                                                                                                                    I'm glad to be one of "these people".

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                                                                                                                AngelSanctuary Dec 29, 2009 05:03 PM

                                                                                                                I wonder why NBC is not doing so well...hmm....

                                                                                                                And they better not approve this piece of garbage and then turn down David Tennant's series.

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                                                                                                                1. Tom Armitage Dec 30, 2009 11:11 AM

                                                                                                                  Regarding Guy Fieri, who is an appropriate symbol of what Food Network has become, H. L. Mencken said it best and most succinctly, “Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public.” Market share and profits measure popularity, but popularity and taste are not the same thing, just as education and entertainment are not same thing, just as good food and bad food are not the same thing. If you follow the mass of popular public opinion, fine. If you find Guy Fieri entertaining, fine. And even if you aren’t all that fussy about discriminating between good food and bad food and dislike food snobs (like me), fine. To each their own. That’s why a thread like this is one is, ultimately, neither very informative nor very entertaining.

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                                                                                                                    HillJ Dec 30, 2009 11:59 AM

                                                                                                                    That’s why a thread like this is one is, ultimately, neither very informative nor very entertaining.
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                                                                                                                    Geez and I was trying hard to aim higher :)

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                                                                                                                      Tom Armitage Dec 30, 2009 02:41 PM

                                                                                                                      Well, HillJ, your initial post and the link were interesting. Guy Fieri following in the footsteps of Rachel Ray, making it into the land of pure entertainment on a major network. But after awhile, the pros and cons of Mr. Fieri got pretty tedious -- at least for me.

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                                                                                                                        HillJ Dec 30, 2009 03:35 PM

                                                                                                                        Tom that's what makes CH so darn interesting to me. Variety is the spice of life, yes?

                                                                                                                        Any topic, on any of the CH Boards, make some folks happy and some roll their eyes-but that's the way it goes. What makes CH unique is that the interested and the uninterested have the freedom to post their p.o.v. I raise a glass to that!
                                                                                                                        Happy New Year, CH's!

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                                                                                                                          Tom Armitage Jan 12, 2010 12:30 PM

                                                                                                                          I sure agree that spirited disagreements are fun and much more interesting than people agreeing with each other. Vive la difference! But that doesn't mean that all disagreements are interesing. "I like cilantro" vs. "I don't like cilantro." If this disagreement just gets repeateed 100 times by 100 different people without any new information or insights, it's boring. That was my only point..

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                                                                                                                            HillJ Jan 12, 2010 12:35 PM

                                                                                                                            Tom, I understood your point. I just can't get that bothered.

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                                                                                                                  2. whs Dec 30, 2009 02:47 PM

                                                                                                                    This thread sums up the bipolar nature of CH--we write about an off-the-beaten-path "authentic" food experience, but hate it when somebody else popularizes it. i.e. there was an article in the NY Times about roadside foodstands in Bali--the one that the tour buses pull up in front of is the one that Bourdain featured on his show. L'Ami Jean in Paris is now cheek by jowl with people who read about it on CH. Chipmunk cheeked Guy Fieri may offend by affect, but he's doing the same thing that Julia Child did by "popularizing" French cooking for the American housewife.

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                                                                                                                      Vladimir Estragon Jan 2, 2010 09:41 AM

                                                                                                                      It's 8:00 in the morning. Here is a big greasy cheeseburger. It's cold because we've spent the last half hour photographing it. Your job is to take a big bite of the cheeseburger, act as though you adore it, whether you do or not, say how good it is without using the word "delicious," make some comments about its unique qualities, and exchange friendly banter with the nervous hashslinger who cooked it. Now, repeat the entire process twelve more times in one day. Fieri might be a wanker, but what he does is not easy.

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                                                                                                                        KTinNYC Jan 2, 2010 07:57 PM

                                                                                                                        Have you actually seen the show cause I don't see a lot of art direction. Give a "producer" a super 8 and shoot as you go. That's more of what I see.

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                                                                                                                      2. alkapal Jan 8, 2010 04:43 AM

                                                                                                                        i love diners, drive-ins and dives. i wish i had that job of going around and eating at those joints.

                                                                                                                        i like guy. i think his sunglasses-on-the-back-of-the-head schtick is silly, but i still like him nonetheless. he is entertaining, engaging, friendly and knowledgeable. he doesn't take himself too seriously, and works well with others (did you see the "dinner: impossible" with guy -- for the santa rosa's boys & girls club? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BayW5g...
                                                                                                                        it gave me a new appreciation for both him and robert irvine).

                                                                                                                        i think he'd be a great game show host. you go, guy!

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                                                                                                                          observor Jan 11, 2010 09:19 AM

                                                                                                                          I think he is good also because I think he is very passionate and I didn't think he tried to be show business-like. I have noticed of late however that he has been acting a bit different on Diners, more fake and artificially showy than he had in the past...I liked him when he was more regullar.

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                                                                                                                            alkapal Jan 12, 2010 03:19 AM

                                                                                                                            uh-oh, the emerilification (bam-ification) has begun?

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                                                                                                                              observor Jan 12, 2010 04:59 AM

                                                                                                                              Probably...no doubt some consultants said "We want you to spice it up a little" or something. These Food Network people are food prostitutes.

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                                                                                                                                alkapal Jan 12, 2010 05:14 AM

                                                                                                                                i'm finding it difficult to imagine *guy* "spicing it up"! isn't he already the 11 on a 10-point scale? LOL.

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                                                                                                                                  Davwud Jan 12, 2010 05:21 AM

                                                                                                                                  Well alk.

                                                                                                                                  These TV exec's do product testing. If they found that people wished he'd tone down one thing and play up another, you bet they'd coach him.

                                                                                                                                  Here in Canada we get the new shows about 6 months late. I haven't noticed any change in him but I'm not sure if the shows I'm watching are new enough.

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                                                                                                                                    alkapal Jan 12, 2010 06:31 AM

                                                                                                                                    all i know is that i'd be perfectly happy to hop in the convertible and accompany him to all those diners, drive-ins and dives, sho' 'nuff!

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                                                                                                                                      Davwud Jan 12, 2010 06:35 AM

                                                                                                                                      Well so far he's 3 for 3 in our books.

                                                                                                                                      I'd like the car, period.

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                                                                                                                                        observor Jan 12, 2010 01:11 PM

                                                                                                                                        Yeah, but would you hop in the back seat? ;)

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                                                                                                                                          alkapal Jan 12, 2010 04:26 PM

                                                                                                                                          if that's where the fried chicken, shrimp po-boy, or bbq ribs are....

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                                                                                                                                            observor Jan 13, 2010 05:34 PM

                                                                                                                                            Even if they were scattered all over the seat?

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                                                                                                                                          observor Jan 17, 2010 04:13 PM

                                                                                                                                          He did a diner in my semi-hometown of Manchester, NH a few years ago (Red Arrow Diner). It took him two days to do the shoot. The small-town cable station did a story on him doing the story (yes, that means there were at least *two* cameras in the small diner kitchen). The older guy doing the cable story said to him.."Now...who are you and how did you get on Food Network?" He had no idea anything about him or that he had won "The Next Food Network Star". Guy patiently explained who he was to the guy, since the guy couldn't take the time to find out himself. Guy seemed very genuine, but maybe he has changed with success/

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                                                                                                                                            Servorg Jan 17, 2010 04:31 PM

                                                                                                                                            "Guy seemed very genuine, but maybe he has changed with success/"

                                                                                                                                            Yeah. Maybe he began reading some of the things written about him online and decided there was no winning no matter what he did... ;-D>

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                                                                                                                                              alkapal Jan 19, 2010 12:07 PM

                                                                                                                                              well, then he should be smart enough to know that much -- if not most -- of the stuff online must be taken with a grain of salt -- or not at all.

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                                                                                                                                                observor Jan 19, 2010 03:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                If I was something of a celebrity, I don't think I would read what people were saying on the Internet!

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                                                                                                                                                  alkapal Jan 20, 2010 04:48 AM

                                                                                                                                                  i sure wouldn't! people can be very nasty and jealous.

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                                                                                                                                                    Davwud Jan 20, 2010 09:03 AM

                                                                                                                                                    Just to give you some perspective. I'm not sure if you've seen "The Blind Side" yet but Mrs. Sippi went to school with the husband and wife in the movie so she's been very interested.
                                                                                                                                                    The amount of people who've complained that they only took in the one boy is unbelievable. They do this great thing because they care and it's still not enough.
                                                                                                                                                    I'm sure a lot of people who complained would never dream of doing something like this either.
                                                                                                                                                    But that's what you get with celebrity.

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                                                                                                                                        irishnyc Jan 13, 2010 02:49 PM

                                                                                                                                        "These Food Network people are food prostitutes."

                                                                                                                                        Not according to many opinions stated here. Most seem to think FN is whoring out the schtick instead of the food.

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                                                                                                                                      Davwud Jan 12, 2010 05:12 AM

                                                                                                                                      Examples??

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                                                                                                                                    Diane in Bexley Jan 13, 2010 10:01 AM

                                                                                                                                    Here's a thought - Guy and Paula Deen cooking together. The show will be a 59 on a 10 point scale of "over the top". Sorry, I don't care for him.

                                                                                                                                    Much prefer PBS cooking shows because they are "cooking" shows, not food entertainment. The only person i follow on FNTV is Ina Garten, wonder how many times they have approached her to morph into a Guy, RR, or Paula Deen personality. Keep going strong, Ina! Don't give into them!

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                                                                                                                                      Davwud Jan 13, 2010 11:30 AM

                                                                                                                                      You can have her. I've tried to watch and ended up watching the grass grow.

                                                                                                                                      I'm sure they've tried to amp her up but..........

                                                                                                                                      I don't know why so many people dump on shows like 3D and ones that don't really teach you how to cook. I've found great places to eat from this show. I've got great ideas on how to improve what I'm making from this show.

                                                                                                                                      Other shows like unwrapped I find pretty informative too.

                                                                                                                                      I just don't much care for the "Reality" type shows.

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                                                                                                                                        KTinNYC Jan 13, 2010 12:37 PM

                                                                                                                                        What have you learned from Unwrapped?

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                                                                                                                                          Davwud Jan 13, 2010 03:34 PM

                                                                                                                                          Where stuff comes from. How it's made. The history behind it.

                                                                                                                                          It's not like I watch that show, take the information I get and split the atom. I just find that it can be interesting.

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                                                                                                                                            Servorg Jan 13, 2010 03:37 PM

                                                                                                                                            "It's not like I watch that show, take the information I get and split the atom."

                                                                                                                                            Much, much more important to split the pea (with ham hocks in a stable orbit)...

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                                                                                                                                              KTinNYC Jan 14, 2010 05:28 AM

                                                                                                                                              I always suspected the products featured had some sort of pay for placement agreement with the TVFN. The whole show reminds me of an infomercial.

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                                                                                                                                                hudsonvalleyfoodblog Jan 14, 2010 07:51 AM

                                                                                                                                                actually it reminds me of those segments from Mr. Rogers, like when he'd visit the crayon factory.

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                                                                                                                                                  KTinNYC Jan 14, 2010 08:09 AM

                                                                                                                                                  The difference is that there wasn't a corporate flack extolling the virtues of Crayola Brand Crayon on Mr. Rogers. If I remember correctly it would just be Mr. Rogers doing a voice over with that fun xylophone music in the background.

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                                                                                                                                                    hudsonvalleyfoodblog Jan 15, 2010 12:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                    Who knows, maybe Crayola made some big donations to PBS for that spot.

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                                                                                                                                                iluvcookies Jan 20, 2010 01:21 PM

                                                                                                                                                Yeah, I could watch Unwrapped all day. Love that show! Sometimes I wish there could be a lovely hybrid with Guy or Adam Richman hosting. Mark Summers should pass the torch to someone younger.

                                                                                                                                                (As a side note, now that Conan O'Brien may be out of a job, why not have him do it???)

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                                                                                                                                              Diane in Bexley Jan 14, 2010 05:11 AM

                                                                                                                                              Chacun a son gout!

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                                                                                                                                                Davwud Jan 14, 2010 10:22 AM

                                                                                                                                                I've always said that.

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                                                                                                                                            It seems like everything there is to be said on this subject has already been said, and now the conversation is just going in circles, and growing increasingly unfriendly. We're going to lock it now.

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