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Substitute for whole cloves - beef marinade

nikkihwood Dec 16, 2009 07:40 PM

Sigh, this is just too pricey for an ingredient I will use once. What could I use instead? I don't think ground cloves would work.

The marinade includes vinegar, onions, garlic, whole peppercorns, a sliced lemon and bay leaves.

Thank you for any suggestions!

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  1. purple goddess RE: nikkihwood Dec 16, 2009 07:42 PM

    cloves will keep for years. I have a clove tissue box that is 15 YEARS old, and still has its distinctive aroma. I'd lash out, use what you need and keep the rest in an airtight baggie in the freezer.

    That marinade sounds pretty damn good the way it is, BTW, but if you wanted a sweet clove-like note, you could use star anise.

    1. goodhealthgourmet RE: nikkihwood Dec 16, 2009 07:56 PM

      if you happen to have allspice berries on hand, that would be the best substitute.

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        OnkleWillie RE: nikkihwood Dec 16, 2009 08:13 PM

        Try an Indian market. They have cloves at a quarter of the price of regular super markets.

        1. Zeldog RE: nikkihwood Dec 16, 2009 08:27 PM

          There's no substitute for cloves, but if you have ground cloves, that will do fine. I figure 2 cloves will be about equal to 1/8 tsp ground cloves. Cloves can be intense, so I wouldn't put more than 1/4 tsp ground cloves into anything first time out.

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          1. re: Zeldog
            nikkihwood RE: Zeldog Dec 16, 2009 09:54 PM

            Holy moley, Purple Goddess! But it's such a wonderful aroma, I know.

            No allspice on hand...but we have an Indian market, conveniently located in the same strip mall as a middle eastern market and the newsstand I frequent, so yes! Allspice, anise or cloves in small quantiies are possible. -- great hints, gracias -

            I do have ground cloves, but I dunno. But, Zeldog, your proportions are definitely correct, thank you so much, so it's an option.

            The whole marinade just sounds so intriguing - good to subtly spice a rump roast for a bunch of, let's have another sigh. picky eaters. I think red wine vinegar...

            Thanks, y'all - I really appreciate the help.

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