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niquejim Dec 3, 2009 07:49 AM

For NYE I'm doing a tasting menu paired with beer and wine for each course. My FIL is taking care of the wine, so I just wanted to get some feedback on my choices for the beers.

The menu is

First: Tuna sashimi with daikon radish, cucumber, fresh grated ginger and a soy dipping sauce. Beer---Hefe

Second: Pan seared scallops with bacon puree and brussel spouts. Beer---best bitter

Third: Grilled mango and prosciutto with herb ricotta and mango coulis Beer---German or Bohemian Pilsner

Fourth: Pineapple polenta and shrimp with pineapple habanero sauce. Beer--- Beligian Blonde

Fifth: Grilled lamb (ground lamb) skewers with cucumber mint coucous and cucumber yogurt dipping sauce. Beer---Flanders Red

Sixth: Cheeses ( types yet to be decided). Porter or Scotch Ale depending on the cheeses

Seventh: Roasted whole beef tenderloin and bearnaise sauce with mushroom risotto. Beer--- American Pale Ale

Eight: Crème brulee with fruit. Beer---Chocolate , Mocha or Coffee stout

  1. Josh Dec 3, 2009 09:28 AM

    First - I'd do something other than a hefeweizen. I'd try a Belgian witbier instead - the citrus and coriander should be a good match for the Asian flavors, much more so than the banana/clove of a hefeweizen.

    Third - Lager is a good call, but I'd actually look at a Helles instead of a Pils. I think the lighter, sweet maltiness would be better with the mango.

    Fourth - Not a bad idea, but a tripel might be good, too. Chimay white or Karmeliet.

    Sixth - Chimay Red is awesome with cheese. I would pick that over either porter or scotch ale.

    Seventh - Definitely not APA with this. I mean not even close. Caramelized meat calls for brown ale, especially with the earthy mushroom flavors in that risotto.

    Eight - Rogue or Young's chocolate stouts should work well.

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      niquejim Dec 3, 2009 10:21 AM

      I've already changed my mind on the Hefe and I'm thinking about replacing that with a Wit.
      Also may go with a Brown Ale like Hobgoblin with the tenderloin

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        Señor Andy Dec 5, 2009 08:30 PM

        Might also try a San Diego IPA for 4th, since many use hops that have tropical (pineapple/passion fruit/guava) and citrus (grapefruit/lemon/orange) zest flavors and aromas. Hop bitterness tends to accentuate spicy heat in food, which could create an interesting pairing with the habanero. Probably best to not choose a heavy, resiny IPA like GF West Coast IPA. Perhaps something like AleSmith IPA or Alpine Nelson. Might even work with AleSmith X.

    2. Chinon00 Dec 3, 2009 02:39 PM

      I only have two issues with your very well thought out menu:
      1) A dark roasted beer with the beef tenderloin. Maybe doppelbock.
      2) I'm always fearful of sweet dessert with dry beers. Not saying that it won't work. What's you experience pairing dry beers with sweet desserts?

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        niquejim Dec 5, 2009 04:01 PM

        I like a good stout with dessert. What were you suggesting instead?
        I don't want a big Barleywine or Old Ale

        1. re: niquejim
          Josh Dec 5, 2009 10:11 PM

          A sweet stout, like a lacto (sometimes called milk stout) or chocolate, should work just fine. i think Chinon00's referring to the traditional dry Irish stout.

      2. Ernie Diamond Dec 6, 2009 06:11 PM

        First of all, your menu is clearly very well thought out. Since it is up for discussion, here are my thoughts on the pairings. Seconds?

        1. I go to super dry, crisp lagers. May be a bit predictable but you can't argue with what works. It seems like there is a push for wheats/wit so may I suggest that if you don't go for the straight up asian lagers that you at least consider Hitachino Nest? Plus, the bottle is real pretty.

        2. With the richness of the scallops and bacon I think that Bitters are a little too smooth and rich to provide an interesting counterpoint. Actually, one that might work very well if you can find it in December is Dogfish Festina Peche. The key for me in any beer would be dry and refreshing, especially against the scallop.

        3. No argument here with the family of drink but if you wanted to stay in the same global region, you may consider Flying Horse, an Indian lager that I really enjoy in the proper setting.

        4. This may be a good course for your stronger wits. I am thinking Fin du Monde?

        5. A traditional (ie; unobtrusive) IPA? Maybe Samuel Smith? What about a Saison? A bit of funk to marry with the lamb but still interesting and very drinkable.

        6. Flanders Red; Biere de Bouccanier or Duchesse du Bourgone with creamy cheeses.

        7. With you all the way with the pale ale. A nice dry stout would go well, too. O'Hara's is good and the Murphy's nitro cans may help drinkers relax from the fizz as they settle into the main course.

        8. My favorite dessert is creme brulee with the dregs of a good bottle of red. I like the contrast between sweet/creamy and dry/fruity. Did you consider a Lambic? Cantillon Fou Foune or Rose de Gambrinus are both stellar!

        Looks like a great menu. No matter what your pairings, I am certain that you will make a lot of people very happy.

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        1. re: Ernie Diamond
          Josh Dec 6, 2009 09:01 PM

          I'm surprised by some of your recommendations. Fou Fonne is *extremely* acidic and sour - while there are some foods I could see it pairing with, desserts aren't one of them.

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            Ernie Diamond Dec 7, 2009 01:19 PM

            I disagree about the dessert category not meshing with that particular beer but I will grant you that the acid in it may not work so perfectly with the cream. I think Rose de Gambrinus is still a solid match, though. In any case, I am not totally beind the idea of the stout with dessert, but then I guess I favor a lighter end to a meal.

            A good, calming stout with shortbread following the dessert as a "coffee" would not go unappreciated.

            Also, if my pairings were a little off, it may have been due in part to the $5 four-packs of Chimay White that I found at my local Krogers!

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          niquejim Dec 8, 2009 01:16 PM

          Somehow I rotated the sixth and seventh courses, the cheese is after the beef. The chesse will be 2 year aged Stilton, 3 year aged Parmesan, 18 month aged Comte and 2 year aged Canadian Cheddar.
          I may go with an Old Ale with those

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          1. re: niquejim
            Ernie Diamond Dec 9, 2009 07:35 AM

            That makes more sense.

            JW Lees Manchester Star (called a porter) is excellent; rich, slightly sweet and with a touch of smoke. It is a great beer for late in the evening.

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            niquejim Dec 13, 2009 04:51 PM

            My FIL has ordered 2 Wagyu tenderloins.....Would that change any recommendations

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            1. re: niquejim
              Josh Dec 13, 2009 09:16 PM

              I don't see why - brown ales and roasted meat is just a great combo.

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              chuckl Dec 13, 2009 05:01 PM

              as much as I love good beer, I'd have to go with red wine with the lamb and beef.

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                niquejim Dec 14, 2009 11:50 AM

                I've forgotten to update the menu and beer pairings

                1st Still the tuna...Beer- Hoegarden

                2nd Scallops on a bacon/onion/mushroom stuffed and roasted mini bell pepper and fried mushrooms...Beer- Fullers London Pride

                3rd Sill the same...Beer- Pilsner Urquell

                4th Still the same...Beer- La Fin du Monde

                5th Still the same...Beer- Duchesse de Bourgogne

                6th Roasted Kobe tenderloins with Bearnaise and black truffle topped mushroom risotto...Beer- Hobgoblin

                7th 3 year aged Blue Stilton, 2 year aged French Comte, 3 year aged Australian White cheddar and 3 year aged Parmesan with a lite drizzle of maple syrup...Beer- Flying Dog Gonzo Imperial Porter

                8th Creme brulee in a sugar cookie shell over a mixed berry compote... Coffee instead of beer

                I still do not know the wine pairings except that for the cheese course we have a 1932 vintage Port. The beer will have a hard time competing against that

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                1. re: niquejim
                  Josh Dec 14, 2009 12:24 PM

                  A better beer to stand against the port, IMHO, would be Chimay Red. It's probably the single most flexible beer for cheese pairings I've had.

                  Also, for that creme brulee, you might want to see if you can find Mackeson's XXX Stout. It's a nicely sweet lacto stout which should pair really nicely. Also, since you're doing a berry compote, Lindeman's framboise would be another great pairing.

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                  southdenverhoo Dec 14, 2009 01:40 PM

                  just another data point--what I'd do

                  1st course--agree re witbier, i prefer Allagash White here

                  2d course--how about a maerzen? I like the melanoidin hit of say a Spaten Oktoberfestbier with the sear on the scallops, not bad with the bacon either

                  3d course--how about an american pale ale here? I'm thinking something like a Troeg's Hopback Amber, despite the name not all THAT hoppy (many classify as a "red ale" but whatever).

                  4th course--Habanero and pineapples--how about a floral fruity IPA like Bell's Two-Hearted with this dish?

                  5th course--the lamb--Her I like the earthiness and slight funk of a saison, and in keeping with th Americentric lanings of my list I'd go with Ommegamg's Saison Hennepin

                  6th course--I like doppelbocks with beef, I like brown ales with beef, but I really like porter with beef,
                  espcially a smoked porter, and I'd prefer the subtler smokiness of Stone's Smoked Porter to the more famous american example, the alder-smoked Alaskan...

                  7th course--The softer Comte notwithstanding, nothing goes better with either an aged Stilton or an aged cheddar than an English Barleywine, and to get a little of that port wine thing going I'd say the JW Lees Harvest (port-cask conditioned) 2006 vintage, and I think it would pair with the Comte as well.

                  8th course--Rogue's Shakespeare Stout gives you coffee and chocolate, this is what I'd do, or something similar.

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                  1. re: southdenverhoo
                    Josh Dec 14, 2009 02:04 PM

                    Awesome suggestions, and while I don't normally love barleywine with cheese, the port barrel-aged JW Lees would definitely be an exception to that.

                    Another domestic wit I like a lot is Avery's White Rascal, and Unibroue's Blanche de Chambly is also great.

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                    niquejim Dec 29, 2009 07:17 AM

                    this is the final list

                    First: Tuna sashimi with daikon radish, cucumber, fresh grated ginger and a soy dipping sauce. Beer---Unibroue-Blanche de Chambly

                    Second: Pan seared scallops with bacon/mushroom/onion stuffed mini bell peppers and fried mushrooms. Beer---Fuller's London Pride

                    Third: Grilled mango and prosciutto with herb ricotta and mango coulis. Beer---Weihenstephaner Original

                    Fourth: Parmesan polenta and shrimp with pineapple habanero sauce. Beer--- Uniroue La Fin du Monde

                    Fifth: Grilled lamb (ground lamb) skewers with cucumber mint coucous and cucumber yogurt dipping sauce. Beer---Duchesse de Bourgogne

                    Sixth: Two Kobe beef tenderloins and bearnaise sauce with mushroom risotto. Beer--- Hobgoblin

                    Seventh: 3 Year aged Blue Stilton, 2 year aged French Comte, 3 year aged Australian white cheddar, some curry cashews and 3 year aged Parmesan with a drizzle of maple syrup. Beer--- Flying Dog Gonzo Imperial Porter

                    Eighth: Crème brulee in a sugar cookie tartlette on a bed of mixed berry compote. Beer---Shakespeare Oatmeal Stout

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                    1. re: niquejim
                      Josh Dec 29, 2009 08:12 AM

                      Nice menu. What's the address? ;-)

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                        niquejim Dec 29, 2009 03:57 PM

                        Somewhere on Pine Island in south Florida

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                      niquejim Jan 3, 2010 11:35 AM

                      The dinner came out better than I ever could have hoped. It was nice to have such wonderful ingredients to work with (9lbs of sushi grade tuna, 7lbs of A-5 wagyu, black and white truffles).
                      It was also nice to see my BIL, who is a wine aficionado( nearly a snob),say that he hated to admit that several of the beer pairings were better than the wine pairings. In fact he said that the Blanche de Chambly was "perfect" with the sashimi
                      The Duchesse du Bourgone was wonderful with the lamb and it really surprised many at the table with its complex flavors

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