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Are there good places in Phoenix or is this really a Tucson thing. Not sure we'll get that far south on this trip (mostly going north) and feel like I have to try one. In a suitably funky atmosphere if possible. Any suggestions?

And I think I know the answer, but is Alice Cooper's restaurant totally cheesy and a waste of time? Maybe loving the old LPs affects the enjoyment of the food.

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  1. Nogalas Hot Dog, 20th St / Indian School in the parking lot of Keyboard City. They're setup weekends and there late. South side of the street. 1945 E Indian School is the address.

    1. Phoenix Ranch Markets also serve them.

      1. There are no "good" estilo Sonoran hot dogs north of Tucson!

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        1. re: mrbigshotno.1

          I agree.

          There are no good Sonoran Hot Dogs in Phoenix. It's BK's and El Guero Canelo in Tucson. Can't find anything close and I live in Phoenix and have tried many.

          It's only an hour and half from PHX and worth the drive if that's the only thing you do.

        2. One of the major disadvantages of Sonoran hotdogs in Phoenix compared to Tucson is the difference in health codes. Hotdog carts in Maricopa county (Phoenix) are not allowed to prepare their own condiments. They must be straight out of the package. This means canned mushrooms, salsa verde out of a jar/can, etc, etc.

          As far as Alice Cooper's place - you're suspicions of cheesy and waste of time are spot on.

          1. Any updates to this thread? Other carts besides Nogales Hot Dogs serving Sonoran style? I read the description of Nogales HD's offering and it doesn't sound much different than what I can get closer to home, so I'm trying to decide if there's one that I should spend the time and meal slot to try.

            Is this post from 2008 still valid? http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/5250...

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            Nogales Hot Dogs
            1945 E Indian School Rd, Phoenix, AZ 85016

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            1. re: Melanie Wong

              I ate at the Nogales Hot Dogs stand on Indian School (@20th St) for the first time just last week, and I was completely underwhelmed. What I was handed was basically a standard supermarket frank, wrapped in standard supermarket bacon, served in a standard supermarket bun. Despite the "con todo" assortment of toppings and valiant remediation efforts on my part, the dog never rose above the sum of its parts.

              Coming from the land of The Fatted Calf, Marin Sun, and outstanding bakeries too numerous to list, you could definitely make something much better in your own home without much effort.

              If I found myself in the mood for a sausage sandwich in that neighborhood, I would grab a bratwurst with kraut from Stanley's, but it's not like you couldn't get something just as good at Rosamunde.

              In sum, I'd recommend that you fill that meal slot with something else.

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              Nogales Hot Dogs
              1945 E Indian School Rd, Phoenix, AZ 85016

              Stanley's Homemade Polish Sausage & Delicatessen Co
              2201 E McDowell Rd, Phoenix, AZ 85006

              1. re: hohokam

                Anybody tried the Short Leash Dog truck? I see they're at Phoenix Public Market at 8am on Saturdays. Melanie - are you really interested in a good hot dog, or just looking for local chow?

                http://www.facebook.com/pages/Phoenix...

                (Their menu is in the Photo section)

                1. re: johnseberg

                  I tried Short Leash's take on a Chicago-style dog (can't remember the menu moniker now) a while back. Much tastier and much better value than the Nogales Hot Dogs offering IMO.

                  One thing to note is that Short Leash's default bread is a fluffy pita-sized flatbread (bun available upon request). I thought the use of a flatbread was brilliant, as it let the flavors of the frank and the toppings come through more clearly than a big ol' bun would have.

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                  Nogales Hot Dogs
                  1945 E Indian School Rd, Phoenix, AZ 85016

                  1. re: johnseberg

                    I have -- I adore their jalapeno "pups," which are half-sized cheese-stuffed corn dogs, with a nice bite from diced chile in the sweet corn batter. I asked if they could make mine full-sized, but they apparently don't do that, they like the meat-to-batter ratio afforded by the half-sized dog. Two of those make a nice carry-along brunch while browsing the market.

                    1. re: themis

                      Terrific rec! Had a good chat with the Short Leash guy yesterday, and loved the corn pup. My order had a tail, as shown here.
                      http://plixi.com/p/56872419

                    2. re: johnseberg

                      For future reference:
                      http://twitter.com/ShortLeashDogs
                      http://www.shortleashhotdogs.com

                      Facebook let me see their profile a few times, but now I suddenly need to log in (probably not in this lifetime).

                      1. re: johnseberg

                        I'm looking for unique local chow, not fixated on hot dogs. In fact, with the amount of barbecue I'll be eating this weekend, I usually try to eat lighter.

                        Thanks to themis and hohokam for the deets on Short Leash's take. The corn pups do sound kinda interesting for an 8am breakfast . . . I should digest them by the time judging starts at noon. :-)

                      2. re: hohokam

                        Thanks, you've saved me a trip and stomach space. For me, the frank, bacon and bun can be pedestrian as long as they're griddled properly, as a Mexican-style hot dog is all about the toppings that transport this simple street food to something special. Guess I'll have to wait till I get to Tucson some day for the full treatment.

                        Here's the post from 2002, the first time I came across a bacon-wrapped dog.
                        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/20559

                        And, here's my current favorite at Valdez in my home town of Salinas. The 'hounds congregated here for a multi-truck chowdown a few years ago. The onions braised in butter and mustard are just awesome as a topping. Sr. Valdez has something on the order of a dozen toppings that he loads on (see photo).
                        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/344164

                    3. In this interview with Betty Alatorre, the proprietress of Paletas Betty, she recs a Mexican hot dog stand off 32nd and the 202.
                      http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bell...
                      Sound familiar to anyone? I probably won't make it out there, but wanted to add it to this thread.

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                      1. re: Melanie Wong

                        Could be another "branch" of the Nogales Hot Dogs outfit. Found this snippet on the AZ Republic website (from 2005):

                        Nogales Hot Dogs No .6 1400 N. 32nd St., Phoenix 85008, (623) 594-9657.

                        The latitude and longitude definitely correspond to the location mentioned in the interview.

                        1. re: hohokam

                          Good work, that must be it.

                          Wondering if anyone has more details for this 2008 tip from "themis" for Glendale, "Your best bet for Sonorans anytime in the valley is smack in Glendale, you lucky dogs. This will be an adventure, but I'm guaranteeing you success -- drive the stretch of Thomas Rd east-west between 43rd and 75th Ave. There are a couple of spots there that serve them, keep your eyes peeled. There's wall-to-wall licuado joints and birria and panaderias and carnicerias and mariscos down those blocks, and a big smile and two barely-remembered semesters of high school Espanol will net you some really good food."

                      2. Worst hot dog ever, how dare it call itself estilo Sonora! Refueled the car and hoped to catch Mariscos Nuevo Altata but it had moved on. Spotted La Frontera taco truck on 16th north of Jefferson and south of Van Buren, and swung a U. Got excited when I saw the hot dog truck in the same lot w the same name. The one redeeming feature was the carmelized inion topping. But the dog was mystery meat and barely warm. Chopped bacon sprinkled on top was grease soaked, gray and tasted like a dirty refrigerator.

                        http://plixi.com/p/57032208