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Winter 2009-2010 Openings and Closings

hiddenboston Nov 27, 2009 07:18 AM

The fall 2009 thread was getting a bit unwieldly, so perhaps it's time to start one up for Boston-area restaurants that will be opening or closing this winter. Any come to mind? A few I can think of that are opening in December are Legal C Bar in Dedham, Nickel's Grille in Woburn, and Stoddard's in downtown Boston.

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    RichardA Nov 27, 2009 07:27 AM

    Beacon Grille in Woburn opens in January.

    Fat Cactus in Lynnfield (Rt 1). Not sure exactly when it will open but likely within next 2 months

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      Chris VR Dec 1, 2009 02:14 PM

      The Fat Cactus has an awful sign- the first time passing it I thought it said "The Fart Factory". It's billing itself as a "Mexicali" restaurant.

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        Niblet Dec 3, 2009 02:04 PM

        When I read this wine nearly came out my nose. Great name for a Mexicali restaurant.

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          Chris VR Dec 4, 2009 04:04 AM

          Yeah my first thought when I misread the sign was "well that sounds like a self-fulfilling prophecy if I ever heard one..."

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          Jana Dec 18, 2009 10:42 AM

          I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought so. You could get into an accident trying to make out what the sign says. They should find a new graphic designer.

      2. rlove Nov 27, 2009 07:27 AM

        Carrying over from Fall 2009: Coppa, hopefully.

        EVOO and Za, moving to Kendall Square.

        Bombay Club in Harvard Square is now closed, moving to Washington St in the South End.

        Canteen, a restaurant aiming to bring "the ingredients from fine dining to fast food," is coming to Mass Ave between Central and Harvard Squares.

        Rumor that Flour might open a new outpost in Central Sq, although that likely won't be finalized this winter.

        East by Northeast, so-called "Momofuku-esque" shop, coming to Inman Square "around the end of the year."

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          mats77 Nov 27, 2009 10:11 AM

          Is anything going into the old EVOO spot?

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            heathermb Nov 30, 2009 07:19 AM

            Wait, Za is leaving Arlington?

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              greenzebra Nov 30, 2009 07:53 AM

              My understanding is that EVOO is moving, and Za is opening a second location.

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                hiddenboston Nov 30, 2009 08:27 AM

                Right. Za will be opening a 2nd location in the same building as the one that EVOO is moving to.

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              jgg13 Dec 7, 2009 10:41 AM

              Saw the sign for Canteen last night. For those that don't know where it is, it is oging into the old Friendly Eating Place spot.

            3. justbeingpolite Nov 27, 2009 07:57 AM

              Barlow's, to open in South Boston, from the Superior Dining Group. They are the folks from the Warren Tavern, Orleans, Porterbelly's.
              It's to be a gastropub, I gather.
              The chef was at the Atlantic Fish Co, I believe: Kevin Brady

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                mats77 Nov 27, 2009 10:12 AM

                Where is this going to be located? Thanks

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                  justbeingpolite Nov 27, 2009 10:33 AM

                  On A Street in the Fort Point Channel area.
                  http://bostonrestaurants.blogspot.com/

              2. peregrine Nov 28, 2009 05:19 AM

                Any word on Symphony #8?
                I believe it's open. Has anyone eaten there?

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                  hiddenboston Nov 28, 2009 06:58 AM

                  It is definitely open. I'm dying to get there, but may wait a few weeks just in case they need to get some of the kinks out.

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                    Allstonian Nov 28, 2009 08:00 AM

                    I would normally also wait out the initial shakedown, but Barmy and I have symphony tix for this coming week, so unless it's too mobbed we're going to check it out.

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                      KilgoreTrout Nov 28, 2009 08:42 AM

                      As an associate of the owners, I can say it is for sure open though still having phone/fax line issues like pho and rice did their first few weeks. The kitchen seems pretty solid at this point but the bar setups are a work in progress. There was a snafu in the liquor license that delayed the opening but allowing the kitchen to get up to speed while the bar plays catch up. I will refrain from commenting about quality due to conflict of interest.

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                    peregrine Nov 29, 2009 09:04 AM

                    Two of us ate there last night. It felt like a soft opening: food was excellent, service was a bit slow. They'll have to get that aspect organized if they're going to handle pre-concert and -theatre diners. The kitchen will be open until midnight, so there will now be someplace to go after the show, most welcome in that area.

                    We arrived at about 6:30 and found several other parties already seated in the upstairs restaurant and saw several others at street level in the bar. Several more parties were seated while we were there, but when we left about an hour later there were still many empty tables.

                    We ordered the halibut and the tuna and traded halfway through, as we often do. The tuna was nicely done, seared on the outside and nearly raw in the middle, served with a cold potato salad. The halibut had a sort of sweet-and-sour sauce that I don't usually associate with halibut, but it worked. A man whom I assumed to be the chef came to the table and asked about the halibut, saying the restaurant had only been open a few days and we were the first to order it.

                    The waitress recited the day's desserts. A printed menu would be helpful. Two waitresses seemed to be huddled in the back corner trying to figure out how to work the coffee makers.

                    We had no alcoholic beverages, as we usually don't before a concert or show. The beer list was impressive; the wine list was eight or ten each of red and white, fine for the cuisine but clearly not their specialty.

                    Overall, I would say they're off to a great start. We will return.

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                    purple bot Nov 28, 2009 08:41 AM

                    Still waiting for Sami's to open in JP. Anyone know anything about that? Passed by recently after not being there for a while, and it looks like nothing has progressed.

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                      jpsox Nov 29, 2009 04:08 PM

                      I go by Sami's regularly. Up until about a month ago it was dark most of the time, but lately the lights are on and they are working on it almost everyday. Nonetheless, it does look like there's much more to do, but hopefully it won't be too much longer.

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                      emilief Nov 28, 2009 12:03 PM

                      Bobby's American Grill recently opened in Wellesley. Upper Crust pizza will be going into Wellesley Center. The Milestone will be opening in Wellesley Center in the location previously occupied by Vidalia's Truck Stop. Apparently the owners are the Greek family that owns Maugus but will be serving Italian food.

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                        BostonMAC Nov 30, 2009 11:56 AM

                        So excited Upper Crust is finally coming to Wellesley! Will Milestone be a casual family eatery like Vidalia's was? I hope it's not an "upscale Italian" join a la Alta Strada; it'd be nice to have a basic pasta/sauce kind of place that you can go to for a good, cheap meal and be waited on (as opposed to Comella's). Maybe it will be BYOB.

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                        maxinboston Nov 29, 2009 07:30 PM

                        Wheeeere is El Pelon?? News, please...

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                          Buddernut Nov 29, 2009 07:32 PM

                          Is Nickel's Grille in Woburn related to 21 Nickels of Watertown fame ????

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                            Chowzmeister Dec 1, 2009 07:13 AM

                            No relation at all. I thought the same thing and asked at 21 Nickels. Nickels Grille has nothing to do with them.

                          2. hiddenboston Nov 30, 2009 05:19 AM

                            It appears that Bova's Sandwich Shop in Randolph may be closed. Someone I know confirmed it for me, but I'm checking anyways, just to be 100% certain. And yes, this place is connected with the Bova's in the North End.

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                              edgewater Nov 30, 2009 08:01 AM

                              I keep looking at North End Treats inFramingham when I go by to see if it is still open. They are also affiliated with Bova's in the North End. I called on the phone for info on a cake when they were first open and they were totally clueless, then I went in and bought some Italian cookies which were so stale you could barely bite into them. I can't believe they are still open in an economy where even the good places are struggling.

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                                hiddenboston Dec 1, 2009 05:08 AM

                                I just called Bova's in the North End to see if the Randolph one had closed, and honestly, I have no idea what the person said to me there. :-) I'll try to drive by the place this weekend to check.

                              2. typhoonfish Dec 1, 2009 04:07 AM

                                Good riddance to Skyline in Marina Bay. That place was a horror show. My sister was a waitress there and she had some stories to tell.

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                                  bostonfoodz Dec 1, 2009 05:57 AM

                                  We walked by Sage last night and it appears to still be closed. Does anyone know what's going on there?

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                                    rlove Dec 1, 2009 07:00 AM

                                    Closed, sadly.

                                    What was supposed to be a temporary refurbishment/move turned permanent. Chef Susi hopes to reopen or open something new, but no word yet on what or when.

                                  2. hiddenboston Dec 1, 2009 06:37 AM

                                    Santarpio's may be opening a second location in Peabody.

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                                      Chris VR Dec 1, 2009 02:25 PM

                                      Be still, my heart. REALLY?! Yes, Chris, there is a Santa Claus...!

                                    2. hiddenboston Dec 1, 2009 07:21 AM

                                      I just talked with someone at The Chateau. The new location in Braintree is now open.

                                      1. fmcoxe6188 Dec 1, 2009 10:06 AM

                                        Seaport Bar and Grill is reportedly closing at the end of the month and the space being taken over by the owners of the Atlantic Beer Garden. They will be opening a restaurant call The Whiskey Priest apparently...

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                                          Cathleen02 Dec 1, 2009 12:07 PM

                                          According to the Salem News a new restataunt is going into the old Edgewater Cafe location. " Adriatic Restaurant and Bar, which will offer a mix of Italian and European food." It says it will be open in "a few months"
                                          http://www.salemnews.com/punews/local...

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                                            pierce Dec 1, 2009 01:55 PM

                                            One of the metal sliding doors at the former Planet Pizza in JP has been open the last few days offering a view of the drastically changed interior.... nothing special, but it's clean and more geared towards a restaurant, eat-in atmosphere than PP. Talked to a guy having a smoke out front, he said via what sounded like a greek accent that it will be more of a "diner-type" place, and open mornings.

                                            1. Chris VR Dec 1, 2009 02:13 PM

                                              According to their Facebook page at http://www.facebook.com/pages/Melrose... Absolutely Fabulous is open at 454 Main Street in Melrose (previously house The Blues Grill Diner). Open Monday, Wed-Sat. for dinner. They plan to start Sunday brunch on Sunday from 10:30-3:30.

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                                                hiddenboston Dec 1, 2009 06:32 PM

                                                Absolutely fabulous, huh? Interesting name. :-b I guess it's better than Fart Factory (see Chris VR's post above).

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                                                  Gabatta Dec 4, 2009 03:41 AM

                                                  Not by much.

                                              2. Chris VR Dec 1, 2009 02:24 PM

                                                Someone at the newly opened offshoot of Beacon Hill Wine and Spirits in Melrose at he corner of Main and Essex Street told me Our Glass Wine Co in Saugus has closed. Their website http://www.ourglasswineco.com is still up and the phone still works, but it just went to voice mail on all three phone calls I tried to make tonight, which seems odd for 6pm on a Tuesday night when the phone message says they are open. I know a lot of their business came from Melrose, and I'm sure the new wine stores in town (there's another down in Oak Grove Village, as well as Sweet Thoughts on Main Street selling a small selection of wine) cut into their business.

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                                                  RichardA Dec 1, 2009 06:55 PM

                                                  Yes, it is closed, though there is a sign at the door stating it may reopen under new mgmt. The last owner, Golden Goose, decided to close the store after running it for only a few months.

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                                                    Chris VR Dec 2, 2009 04:11 AM

                                                    Ah, that makes the voice mail make more sense, where it was a "division of Golden Goose Market" or something like that. That's too bad. I think Brian Lamb did a nice job of stocking a good selection. That's a tough location though. Good for commuter traffic but bad for locals who don't want to have to do the 2 mile looparound. I know he put in for one of the Melrose Beer & Wine licenses but didn't get one.

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                                                    bgavin Dec 11, 2009 07:29 AM

                                                    Wow! When i lived in Melrose (1992-2006) there were no package stores and only a handful of restaurants with liquor licenses.

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                                                      Chris VR Dec 11, 2009 11:44 AM

                                                      Well, there still aren't package stores. When it was put to vote last fall, voters agreed to specialty wine and beer shops that sell food. But they can't sell hard liquor.

                                                      What irks me a bit is twice I've asked staff there about stocking vermouth and the immediate response was they weren't allowed to sell liquor. When I pointed out it wasn't liquor they seemed surprised.

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                                                        almansa Dec 11, 2009 11:58 AM

                                                        I find them quite expensive, and while I appreciate the thoughtful merchandising, I'm not giving up on Rapid anytime soon. BTW, the 'for lease' sign is down from the shop next door - any word?

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                                                          Chris VR Dec 11, 2009 12:55 PM

                                                          Yeah, they really are expensive. I've been trying to support them because I've wanted a wine shop here for so long, but it's tough when I know I could do better at Rapid. How are their cheeses/cheese pricing?

                                                          The place next door- is that the place that always turns into a H&R Block in the tax season? I was sort of hoping that was going to be the butcher shop you were talking about opening ;-)

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                                                          beaconhillwine Dec 19, 2009 07:06 PM

                                                          Hi Chris, et al -- this is Rebecca, owner of Beacon Hill Wine & Gourmet. I apologize if my staff seemed surprised when you asked about vermouth -- however, I've been telling everyone who has asked -- while vermouth is technically a fortified wine, it falls under the category of "spirits" , and we do not have a spirits license - just beer/wine. Melrose did not allow spirits, unfortunately. Brandy, is also a fortified wine -- however, still legally a spirit. I apologize if this is an inconvenience - it is unfortunately out of my control.

                                                          I try very hard to keep my pricing competitive; it's not possible to do on all products, so while places such as Kappys and Rapids who buy in much larger bulk than I do, due to supplying more than one store (Rapids buys in with other stores for deeper drops) on some of our same product lines -- I assure you, I am close on pricing - and also carry even better products at lower prices. But, certainly no harm on shopping where ever it's convenient for you! And I hope that at a minimum, should you choose to shop at my store in the future - -that it's an enjoyable experience. I certainly try to make the store welcome, inviting, educational if necessary -- and above all, accomodating. Happy Holidays!!

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                                                            Chris VR Dec 20, 2009 06:02 AM

                                                            What confuses me about this, though, is Brian at Our Glass in Saugus seemed to have the same kind of beer/wine only license, and he was able to stock vermouth. Unless he was sneaking that one under the radar, but I talked to him about it quite a bit and he seemed to be doing it legally. Maybe there was some sort of quirk in the Saugus rules he was taking advantage of that isn't in the Melrose rules. I was just surprised that the immediate response was "vermouth is a spirit" both times I asked about it. I'm sure you get people in all the time asking for liquor so I felt like it was kind of a knee-jerk response.

                                                            I appreciate that you are trying to keep your pricing low but the feel among the people (30s-40s yuppies for the most part) I've talked to around town is your prices are a bit too high. If you feel you're pricing competitively, maybe the best way is to show more comparison pricing signs, or perhaps have a "$15 and under" section or some other way to highlight wines that are in a lower price range.

                                                            Other than one shopping experience where it took.. literally... 20 minutes! to make my purchase, I've always found you and your staff to be courteous, helpful and friendly and I"m completely honest when I say I'm thrilled there's a wine shop in town and really do want you to succeed. (In that instance, the staff was trying to figure out pricing on some specially painted glasses and while they were all tied up with the register and on the phone, everyone else in line had to wait. After suggesting they might try to ring up the customers waiting while they tried to figure it out, and being told that wasn't possible because they needed the register, I told them I was leaving my wine on a side counter while i went to Shaw's to get my other purchases. When I came back 10-15 minutes later not only was the situation still not resolved but the wine I'd picked out had been restocked on the shelves so I had to go back and get it again, then get back on the end of the line that had become longer.)

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                                                              RichardA Dec 22, 2009 06:46 PM

                                                              OurGlass had a full liquor license, and they sold spirits including vodka, tequila, liquers and more.

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                                                                Chris VR Dec 22, 2009 07:15 PM

                                                                My mistake then!

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                                                                  beaconhillwine Dec 26, 2009 09:09 AM

                                                                  Hi Chris, I totally respect your feedback regarding the lines; we've been open 8 weeks as of the Holiday season and so I have new employees as well as new processes and kinks to work out so it is frustrating for both consumers AND us. Staff changes need to be made, but again - when you're 8 weeks old, it takes time to figure that out. But, all businesses take time -- and truthfully, I don't know when you shopped but we couldn't keep up with the line based on just sheer volume of people present this week! Which is a wonderful thing - but at the same time, can make the time in line longer.

                                                                  Thank you for your kind words and constructive criticism -- we are, and will always continue to be a work in progress in trying to improve! :)

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                                                      BlueTrain84 Dec 2, 2009 05:26 AM

                                                      Franky and the Boys (Brookline Village) closed up a little while ago and now there's a sign shaped like a butcher's knife in the window that says 'Cutty's, coming soon.'

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                                                        lergnom Dec 2, 2009 08:14 AM

                                                        Cutty's is supposed to be a sandwich shop run by a guy who worked in the Cook's Test Kitchen. (If anyone doesn't know, the Cook's offices and test kitchen are on Station St., opposite the Brookline Village T stop.)

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                                                          Stride Dec 2, 2009 08:41 AM

                                                          There is an interview with him in today's Globe: http://www.boston.com/ae/food/restaur...

                                                          Sounds like a place worth checking out!

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                                                        Parsnipity Dec 2, 2009 10:05 AM

                                                        I know you're all shocked, but Joey's Thai on Elm between Porter and Davis is closed. That strip is like a restaurant graveyard.

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                                                          Bob Dobalina Dec 2, 2009 10:12 AM

                                                          Especially for places that kinda suck.

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                                                            Parsnipity Dec 2, 2009 11:03 AM

                                                            What are you talking about? Subway bakes their own bread! ;)

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                                                            greenzebra Dec 2, 2009 11:02 AM

                                                            Huh, I wonder if this is where Vej Naturals is moving? If so, maybe Vej Naturals and Pizzeria Posto (going into the Green Tomatoes space) can revitalize that strip.

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                                                              hiddenboston Dec 2, 2009 11:15 AM

                                                              I'll tell you one thing--Vej Naturals is doing a great job of keeping their new address secret. I've done every kind of search possible and can't come up with an address for them. Oh well, I guess we'll find out soon enough.

                                                              On an unrelated note, a new diner has just opened on Route 1 in Peabody. It's called Poppy's Diner and Pizza, and it's on the southbound side of Route 1 maybe a little less than a mile north of Route 128.

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                                                                greenzebra Dec 3, 2009 05:38 PM

                                                                Vej Naturals now confirms on their website that they are replacing Joey's Thai Cafe. My guess is a 2009 opening is extremely optimistic.

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                                                                  djd Dec 17, 2009 04:11 PM

                                                                  I thought I heard that Blue Shirt was closing and Vej Nats taking that spot? Though rumors are probably worth the paper they're written on....

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                                                                    Bob Dobalina Dec 18, 2009 05:03 AM

                                                                    Hope those are just rumors! Blue Shirt dishes decent enough grub - would be a shame if they were closing.

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                                                                    lgss Feb 2, 2010 02:46 PM

                                                                    Tomorrow is the current word for Vej Naturals in Davis Sq. I think they're going by The Pulse for the new location.

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                                                              RichardA Dec 2, 2009 10:19 AM

                                                              Casa Blanca is coming to Main St., Andover, at the site of the former Serene restaurant. Don't know exactly when it will open. There was a Casa Blanca in N. Andover, and I don't know if they are simply moving, or opening a 2nd location. Their website http://www.casablancamexican.com does not appear to be working right now.

                                                              1. hiddenboston Dec 3, 2009 11:33 AM

                                                                We drove by Coppa last night around 8:00 and saw someone working on either the bar or some chairs.

                                                                Also drove by the Upper Crust on Comm. Ave. by BU. The weird thing is, I believe they have been open for a few months there, but they have some kind of grand opening coming up tonight(?)

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                                                                  bear Dec 3, 2009 03:33 PM

                                                                  Bickford's Grille in on Rte. 30 in Framingham closed a while ago and there's a new sign for La Carreta Mexican, which appears to be a New Hampshire chain. Anyone familiar with the food? I could only find one post on the Boston board, but it appeared to be a fly-by shill.

                                                                  http://www.lacarretamex.com/

                                                                  1. Chris VR Dec 3, 2009 06:27 PM

                                                                    In Melrose, a friend reports that a takeout Thai place is going in:

                                                                    "It is where the skateboard shop used to be. I don't know when it's opening, but there's a building permit in the window, paper taped up, and there was clearly activity in there this afternoon."

                                                                    1. CocoDan Dec 4, 2009 05:20 AM

                                                                      I'm sure it wouldn't be opening before summer, or at the earliest, spring, but the word is out that the owner of Siros at Marina Bay has made a deal to reopen the former Skyline.
                                                                      This could be interesting.
                                                                      Enjoy,
                                                                      CocoDan

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                                                                        hiddenboston Dec 4, 2009 05:51 AM

                                                                        Definitely interesting! Thanks for the info on this. I love going to Marina Bay in the warmer months, so hopefully the place will be open by then.

                                                                        BTW, not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but Caffe Graffiti has reopened on Cross Street in the North End where Martignetti Liquors used to be. And this time around, they have a full-service dining room with lunch and dinner entrees.

                                                                      2. itaunas Dec 4, 2009 06:53 AM

                                                                        I think this was a November opening, but A Taste of Soul BBQ opened on Ferry Street in Everett (basically on the Everett/Malden line). I dropped in and they had what you would expect, BBQ & soul food basics, but they were only accepting cash so I haven't tried it yet. If I can make it to that general area this afternoon, I hope to either try it or the convenience store on Main offering ribs and fried chicken (this I am not certain if its soul food, but they mentioned those two things).

                                                                        1. hiddenboston Dec 4, 2009 07:08 AM

                                                                          For those who were wondering what's going into the old Planet Pizza spot in JP, it looks like the new place will be called the Robinwood Cafe and Grille. Not sure exactly when they are opening....

                                                                          1. hiddenboston Dec 7, 2009 07:30 AM

                                                                            It looks like Barlow's might be opening on A Street in South Boston this week (possibly Wednesday).

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                                                                              misscucina Dec 7, 2009 10:11 AM

                                                                              I just got an invite saying it opens Thursday (12/10). Interior looks really nice, though it's been over a year in the works. Parking, however, will be a huge challenge for this place. Hopefully they have some discount arrangement with the lot diagonally across the street.

                                                                            2. chickendhansak Dec 7, 2009 07:40 AM

                                                                              The Battery in Brighton is closed currently for renovations, I found out last night. "Coming soon, new menu, new decor, new chef" said the sign in the window. Didn't find anything on their web site to confirm this.

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                                                                                BlueTrain84 Dec 7, 2009 11:31 AM

                                                                                I was surpised when it opened and didn't think that it would stick around too long, looks like I was right.

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                                                                                  chickendhansak Dec 7, 2009 12:55 PM

                                                                                  Well, hopefully it's just a case of 2.0. I know many people here weren't too thrilled with the fish batter, myself included, but the chips were great (broken record time) and the other items were also good. I hope they fix the fish and change nothing else, really.

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                                                                                  BarmyFotheringayPhipps Dec 7, 2009 09:30 PM

                                                                                  Fingers crossed the new chef doesn't suck...

                                                                                3. hiddenboston Dec 7, 2009 09:24 AM

                                                                                  The Bel-Aire Diner may open once again on Route 1 in Peabody. It may be part of a truck stop with a gas station and a convenience store, according to the Boston Globe.

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                                                                                    autopi Dec 7, 2009 01:08 PM

                                                                                    does anybody know what's happened to the chinese food truck that used to be parked on oxford street, next to harvard?

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                                                                                      hckybg Dec 7, 2009 02:56 PM

                                                                                      Great question! I have been looking for it the last few weeks too. I wish I had an answer for you.

                                                                                    2. hiddenboston Dec 7, 2009 01:41 PM

                                                                                      Prohibited is now open underneath Symphony 8. The entrance to the place is literally hidden--you can see where the entrance is if you go on Prohibited's Facebook page:

                                                                                      http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boston-...

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                                                                                        Allstonian Dec 7, 2009 02:40 PM

                                                                                        From the Facebook page:
                                                                                        "PROHIBITED etiquette must be directed and upheld to all who take an interest in."

                                                                                        ???

                                                                                        Anybody got a clue what this might mean, if it were written in coherent English? It sounds like some of that word-salad spam.

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                                                                                          hiddenboston Dec 7, 2009 05:16 PM

                                                                                          Maybe they're trying to confuse us on purpose. It could be that there is a code somewhere in that sentence (and I use the term loosely) that tells people where the "hidden" entrance to the bar is.

                                                                                          Then again, maybe the person who wrote it didn't do very well in his or her English classes.

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                                                                                            MC Slim JB Dec 9, 2009 01:47 PM

                                                                                            The entire rules list for Prohibited is in the Photos section of its Facebook page. A lot of it looks cadged from Bourbon and Branch in San Francisco.

                                                                                            Highlights: know the daily password (presumably one must call ahead of time and get it from the host), enter/exit quietly, no loitering outside the entrances, no hitting on girls you don't know, no cellphone voice calls, speak softly, and drink responsibly or be shut off and ejected.

                                                                                            Depending on how seriously they take themselves (hopefully not too much) and the cocktails (hopefully a lot), this could be promising. The speakeasy shtick is fun up until the point where they get cheesy-nightclub velvet-ropey about it, after which the place is to be actively shunned.

                                                                                            http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

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                                                                                              BarmyFotheringayPhipps Dec 9, 2009 02:52 PM

                                                                                              Huh. A bar where people are actively discouraged from being total douchebags? I could get behind that...

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                                                                                                rlove Dec 9, 2009 03:48 PM

                                                                                                Mimicking Bourbon & Branch is not a great start, but, reading the rules, they do not seem to take themselves anywhere near as seriously as B&B. These rules almost sound a parody of a speakeasy.

                                                                                                Will have to go soon.

                                                                                                Any reports yet?

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                                                                                                  hiddenboston Dec 10, 2009 05:57 AM

                                                                                                  I was on the verge of going yesterday evening but with the heavy rains and winds I didn't want to search for a parking space close by. Hopefully I'll try again in the next couple of weeks.

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                                                                                                    tbwenzlau Dec 10, 2009 12:51 PM

                                                                                                    I am going tonight. I will let you know.

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                                                                                                      MC Slim JB Dec 11, 2009 02:20 AM

                                                                                                      Yes, Bourbon & Branch does amazing, amazing craft cocktails, and the space is very, very cool, but they're a bit pedantic about it, don't look like they're having a lot of fun, more like doing God's work with booze: dour cocktail missionaries.

                                                                                                      I think I'm inclined to forgive a little self-seriousness if they deliver on the cocktail front. It must be a little depressing if not outright maddening to take your craft seriously and then regularly have a loud bunch of suits come in and order vodka/sodas and Bud Lites, as I've seen happen more than once at Drink.

                                                                                                      My hope is that Prohibited, along with The Woodward and the forthcoming Descent (at the W), means that craft cocktails are crossing the chasm from early adopter to early mainstream. My fear is that more of these places will mimic the trappings and drink rosters of craft cocktail bars without serving actual craft cocktails; see Post 390.

                                                                                                      More than one blogger has noted that a speakeasy was featured on an episode of Gossip Girl and characterized that as a shark-jumping moment. The 21st-Century Speakeasy format is ripe for burlesque, ready fodder for a triumph of style over substance, or an excuse to be kind of douchey (which, sorry, looks like what's going on with the Friday Club at Stoddard's). I can live without the 20s-vintage razzmatazz, but I sure would welcome some more places to get a really well-made drink.

                                                                                                      http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

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                                                                                                        Gabatta Dec 11, 2009 03:57 AM

                                                                                                        Personally, I can't forgive any of the self seriousness, whether at a "craft" cocktail bar or in terms of food (see Craigie St). I think the idea that people shouldn't go to Drink, or at least be prepared for a some rolled eyes from the barkeep or other self serious patrons, if they order a vodka & soda is absurd What if they promise not to wear a suit or be loud (at least until after they have had several of these minor league vodkas), is it OK or still outright maddening?

                                                                                                        I tended bar for many years, and am still damn good at pouring a drink (even though I don't have any St. Germain in my liquor cabinet). As long as my patrons were friendly, respectful of others at the bar (and me), and tipped generously (most important), they could order whatever they damned well please, and I would serve it with a smile.

                                                                                                        Like you, I also would welcome some more places to get a really well-made drink, but I can live with out the modern day cocktail snobbery.

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                                                                                                          pollystyrene Dec 11, 2009 04:34 AM

                                                                                                          I haven't been to Bourbon & Branch, but when I met a friend at The Pegu Club in NYC, we were unpleasantly struck by the loud, pounding music that made it impossible to have a conversation. Due to the noise level, she had to go into the bathroom to call one of the cocktail joints that discourages loud talking (maybe PDT or Death & Co.?) to find out when they closed, and it was so loud THERE that the person on the phone couldn't hear what she said. Obviously, their rules are just gimmicky trappings, and I'll bet that goes for many other places like it. We ended up staying at the Pegu Club, and the cocktails were the best I've ever had. I believe they invented the Old Cuban, which I got the recipe for and have recreated with good luck at home. The Old Cuban I had at Drink was pretty good, but the one I had recently at Eastern Standard missed the mark (too sweet, and served on ice instead of straight up).

                                                                                                          One time at Drink I asked Ben if a lot of people come in and just order beers. He cheerfully said, "Oh yeah! All the time!" There was no snobbery in it.

                                                                                                          I agree with everyone that having more places that make excellent cocktails like Drink or No. 9--or just ONE place that makes cocktails as good as Pegu Club--would be dreamy, and being able to get them in a variety of atmospheres from churchlike to clublike would be ideal, but I don't think Boston's small and undemanding population can support it.

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                                                                                                          Bob Dobalina Dec 11, 2009 04:18 AM

                                                                                                          Popped into Woodard - asked for a Toronto - no dice. Same thing for the bar at W Hotel and Bond.
                                                                                                          On the other hand, had my first one at Eastern Standard a year ago, when it was suggested to me by the bartender (and also got a Green Point circa that time without a blink). And recently I got a decent Toronto from the bar at Blue Room.
                                                                                                          I am beginning to think that the craft cocktail thing is a bit of a scam, as least as it is being promoted at some of these high end newer establishments. (Have not been to Drink yet)

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                                                                                                            noradeirdre Dec 12, 2009 03:28 PM

                                                                                                            Got a great Toronto from Highland Kitchen, and have been seeking them ever since.

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                                                                                                            rlove Dec 11, 2009 04:33 AM

                                                                                                            Agree completely, MC Slim, although I didn't find B&B's cocktails "amazing, amazing" -- just good. I found the place Disney-esque, inauthentic, although it is fun to visit.

                                                                                                            Do you (or anyone else) have any details on Descent? I presume it will be physically separated from the Living Room, the W's lobby lounge? Any idea where it would be in the hotel?

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                                                                                                              MC Slim JB Dec 11, 2009 04:36 AM

                                                                                                              I could be wrong, but I think Descent will be a basement bar. My money is that's where Tom Schlesinger-Guidelli ends up.

                                                                                                              Alembic is another worthy craft cocktail destination in SF, and a lot less full of itself.

                                                                                                              http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

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                                                                                                              hotoynoodle Dec 25, 2009 07:32 AM

                                                                                                              see post 390: under duress, met friends there this week and ordered an aviation, which is featured on their cocktail menu. atrocious. we did not stay for food. our server, michel, however, was extremely nice and solicitous of our large constantly shifting group.

                                                                                                              the downstairs bar was a mob scene at 5:00 on tuesday. i am very small in stature and was constantly getting stood upon and jostled. to the point where i had to bring out my pointy elbows. even my much taller b/f was ready to dump a drink on the obnoxious loud guys behind us.

                                                                                                              fwi, the crowd was 90% men.

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                                                                                                                MC Slim JB Dec 28, 2009 11:28 AM

                                                                                                                Post 390 is exactly the sort of place I'm talking about when I say the worst new trend in Boston cocktails is bars that ape the trappings of craft cocktail bars and speakeasies but forget to bring the craft. It's kind of insulting.

                                                                                                                http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

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                                                                                                                  hotoynoodle Jan 4, 2010 08:55 AM

                                                                                                                  yup, i expect more clumsy bandwagon jumping in our future. i find the bar skills, pricing, menu and crowd all offensive at post. only thing i like is the space.

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                                                                                                        scottd11 Dec 18, 2009 07:27 AM

                                                                                                        Unfortunately, Prohibited seems to be a bar trying to use it's basement space for publicity (despite all of the fanfare about privacy). The actual feel is more fraternity basement than private club.

                                                                                                        The positive:
                                                                                                        Interesting selection of liquors from Rogue company (of Rogue Dead Guy Ale) including two gins, a hazlenut rum and a whiskey.
                                                                                                        A take on a whiskey manhattan using Fernet was creative in

                                                                                                        The negative:
                                                                                                        Free-poured, 12-14 oz cocktails
                                                                                                        12 dollar price tag
                                                                                                        Frat house basement feel (complete with black eyed peas blaring in the background)
                                                                                                        Lack of a true "speakeasy" feel (see: PDT in NY with the phone booth entrance)

                                                                                                        Whatever Prohibited is, it is not a craft cocktail establishment...at least yet.

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                                                                                                          bobot Dec 22, 2009 07:23 AM

                                                                                                          "A take on a whiskey manhattan using Fernet"

                                                                                                          are you sure that wasn't a Toronto? Rye, Fernet, simple syrup, and bitters.

                                                                                                      3. hiddenboston Dec 8, 2009 12:25 PM

                                                                                                        Friendly's Express is going to open a new location in Brookline (their 2nd of this new quick-casual chain).

                                                                                                        Also, the Jazz Cafe and Bar has opened in Roslindale where NuVo used to be.

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                                                                                                          BarmyFotheringayPhipps Dec 8, 2009 12:59 PM

                                                                                                          Given how deadly slow the service traditionally is at Friendly's, there's no small irony in that name!

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                                                                                                            hiddenboston Dec 8, 2009 01:29 PM

                                                                                                            LOL

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                                                                                                              Chowzmeister Dec 9, 2009 11:44 AM

                                                                                                              You are so right! As a former Friendly manager (28 years ago), I can attest to the frequently s-l-o-w service one may receive at some Friendly's. The food for what it is, is great. I still go, just not when I'm in a hurry! Friendly's aren't supposed to be that way, but unfortunately too many are, and have built that reputation.

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                                                                                                                CookieLee Dec 9, 2009 12:16 PM

                                                                                                                28yrs ago, Friendly's was quite the respectable local lunch place. The service wasn't slow, the places weren't dirty. It's not "some" , it's many. And, it's been like that for at least 10yrs when I first noticed the problem.

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                                                                                                                  SeaSide Tomato Dec 10, 2009 09:08 AM

                                                                                                                  Chowzmeister--nosy question for you: could that have been at Friendly's in West Roxbury? Scene of my first waiting/scooping/dishwashing/egg-flipping/cooking job. Fun times!!!

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                                                                                                                    Chowzmeister Dec 11, 2009 12:30 PM

                                                                                                                    CookieLee - maybe it's many, I don't know. I go to a couple of locations one is always good, the other spotty. SeaSide Tomato - No, it was back in the NYC suburbs. Back then the service was really iffy in that area, but I heard it used to be pretty good in Massachusetts at the time. I trained in a New Rochelle,NY location where the customers were so demanding, that they made service awful. They acted like they were at the Waldorf. Thankfully, my restaurant was a little further from NYC.

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                                                                                                                      SeaSide Tomato Dec 30, 2009 02:08 PM

                                                                                                                      "Back then the service was really iffy in that area, but I heard it used to be pretty good in Massachusetts at the time. I trained in a New Rochelle,NY location where the customers were so demanding, that they made service awful. They acted like they were at the Waldorf."

                                                                                                                      Ha--too funny-that's how it was here in MA!! Folks spent $1.88 (little even then) for 2 OE/2 sau/toast/coffee and expected their (paper) napkin to be re-folded when they went to the restroom! So great to hear such a description as yours above and sorry for the late post-I missed the continuation of this thread earlier.

                                                                                                                      While we did treat most folks very well, we gave the regulars who (we judged) were rotten a rather (we thought, well deserved) bumpy ride!

                                                                                                                      Thanks for the memories-Friendlies must have been the same all over, whether in NY or MA.

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                                                                                                                        Chowzmeister Dec 31, 2009 05:42 AM

                                                                                                                        What about at the end of the night after scooping a lot of ice cream from nearly empty containers, your arm would be covered in a melange of melted ice cream - we called it Friendly-itis.

                                                                                                                        I think the problems that Friendly's had back then had to do a lot with where they were located. They seemed to have a formula that didn't translate well to more affluent areas. As a trainee, when I worked in middle class neighborhoods, service was better and employees worked harder and customers were more understanding - it worked. In the affluent areas employees didn't need the job, customers were more demanding, and service suffered. Although independents we discuss on Chowhound wrestle with the same issues, they at least can adjust their menu prices and wage scales to compensate. Friendly's tried to do that, but didn't go far enough.

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                                                                                                                          SeaSide Tomato Jan 4, 2010 07:49 AM

                                                                                                                          No kidding-I had my arm covered in icecream and God knows what else all over me. There was no way (for me anyway) to stay neat!

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                                                                                                                CookieLee Dec 8, 2009 04:52 PM

                                                                                                                Not that I'd go for anything but a cone... Do you know where in Brookline?

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                                                                                                                  hiddenboston Dec 9, 2009 05:25 AM

                                                                                                                  I don't. I'm waiting for Friendly's to get back to me with an answer, but I'm guessing that perhaps they don't want to say where just yet.

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                                                                                                                    cabriac Dec 9, 2009 05:49 AM

                                                                                                                    the qdoba space on harvard. Just what coolidge corner needs - another chain.

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                                                                                                                      hiddenboston Dec 9, 2009 06:05 AM

                                                                                                                      Thanks. I just confirmed this through some notes from a Brookline Planning Board meeting. Is there a "coming soon" sign up already? No word exactly on when the new Friendly's Express will be opening.

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                                                                                                                        CookieLee Dec 9, 2009 06:17 AM

                                                                                                                        Really, what a shame. I didn't see any "coming soon" sign as of last Thurs. I was hoping for something more interesting, like a nice Italian restaurant. I'm v. happy w. the Reagle Beagle, and now, I want more options like it!

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                                                                                                                          hiddenboston Dec 9, 2009 06:36 AM

                                                                                                                          I tend to do my dining a bit further up the road toward Allston (Dok Bua, Genki Ya, Shanghai Gate). I agree with you about a good Italian restaurant opening in the Coolidge Corner area. There are some good dining spots in the Coolidge Corner area (Rami's, Regal Beagle, Shiki, Khao Sarn, Pho Lemongrass, etc), but little in the way of Italian fare.

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                                                                                                                            Mr Bigglesworth Dec 9, 2009 07:21 AM

                                                                                                                            I think I read somewhere that the Clover food truck people tried to move into the space but the landlord wanted a chain to move in there.

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                                                                                                                              Canadian Tuxedo Dec 9, 2009 01:29 PM

                                                                                                                              I think this came up in a thread about mall dining, but I'd guess that the reasons the Harvard Square and Coolidge Corner type areas never seem to get new, interesting, and independently owned restaurants is the rents demanded by landlords in such high profile neighborhoods. Only chains (or local groups with substantial financial resources) can often afford the risks of starting up a new place with such high overhead.

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                                                                                                                                bostonfoodz Dec 12, 2009 04:37 PM

                                                                                                                                The landlord of this space and of Panera is the owner/proprietor of Golden Temple (and the still empty former B&D Deli in Washington Sq)

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                                                                                                                                  CookieLee Dec 13, 2009 04:55 AM

                                                                                                                                  So painful to have the B&D space still empty. For a while the rumor was an upscale sushi restaurant was going to be started by the GT owner. I don't really think we can support another sushi restaurant, and I guess he came to the same conclusion. I'll bang the drum for an Italian restaurant or a Independent style restaurant.

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                                                                                                                                  cpingenot Feb 26, 2010 05:22 AM

                                                                                                                                  I was walking past what used to be the Harvard Housing office on Holyoake street today and they have signs in the windows announcing a public hearing to consider putting in a Clover in that space. Hope this goes through- would be a great thing for Harvard sq

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                                                                                                                                BarmyFotheringayPhipps Dec 9, 2009 02:51 PM

                                                                                                                                Wow, bad move. The J.P. Licks less than a block away will eat their lunch on the ice cream side, and can they really sell enough Fishamajigs and tuna melts to make up the difference?

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                                                                                                                                  CookieLee Dec 9, 2009 03:07 PM

                                                                                                                                  They're in peril of becoming what the now gone McDonald's became - Brookline Senior Center annex...

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                                                                                                                                    ashbee Dec 11, 2009 09:39 AM

                                                                                                                                    I think the Friendly's Express will fill the niche for the crowds from the Senior Annex and families with kids who want the traditional burger, etc. It may not be what appeals to a typical "Chower" but it's probably more middle of the road "fast food" than the Qdoba and McD's that stood there before it. Would I rather have AuBonPain or Italian? Sure! But that size space woud attact an Olive Garden before an independepent could possilby take a risk on the rent, and at least Friendly's is a locally owned company.

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                                                                                                                                      CookieLee Dec 11, 2009 04:12 PM

                                                                                                                                      There used to be an Au Bon Pain. It was across the street where Upper Crust is now. We were sad when that happened. And sadder after we tasted UC. As to where the Friendly's is going in, it's not a v. big space, I don't think OG would even look at it. I have no problem with the food, like the hamburgers. My "beef" (groan) is with the service rep. Hey, maybe they'll have it working right. Now, what about the space where the Barnes & Nobles was? How about a nice Italian restaurant there?!

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                                                                                                                                        cabriac Dec 15, 2009 03:12 PM

                                                                                                                                        It's not a big space at all and I would much rather have a local burger joint (i.e. shake shack type deal) in that location filling a niche than Friendly's take on it.

                                                                                                                            2. hiddenboston Dec 9, 2009 05:26 AM

                                                                                                                              As twentyoystahs mentioned in another thread. Coppa is now open in the South End (on Shawmut, where Dish used to be).

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                                                                                                                                Kodiak604 Dec 10, 2009 06:09 AM

                                                                                                                                Are you sure? I am not convinced it is opened yet....

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                                                                                                                                  hiddenboston Dec 10, 2009 06:30 AM

                                                                                                                                  It is definitely open, at least according to the chef/partner of the place. http://twitter.com/JamieBiss

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                                                                                                                                    Kodiak604 Dec 10, 2009 07:33 AM

                                                                                                                                    ok..I know daily candy reported yesterday that it was opening today...but their website and their voice mail are still not open...but if he is twittering..then...

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                                                                                                                                      barleywino Dec 11, 2009 03:15 AM

                                                                                                                                      it opened Wednesday...http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/651179

                                                                                                                              2. hiddenboston Dec 9, 2009 06:03 AM

                                                                                                                                Just talked with someone at Barlow's in South Boston. As another poster said earlier (and contrary to other reports out there), the restaurant will be opening tomorrow (Thursday), not today. It will be located in a big old building on A Street between the Seaport District and Broadway, kind of on the edge of the Fort Point neighborhood.

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                                                                                                                                  misscucina Dec 10, 2009 06:07 PM

                                                                                                                                  Sorry, yes that was me. I live across the street from Barlow's and am on their mailing list. Got an e-mail invite that said they'd be opening Thursday 12/10. Was just there tonight at the bartender told me they opened last night. One thing I will say is the renovation of that building has been stop/start for well over a year and if I had a dollar for every date I was told they'd be opening since last March, I'd be able to buy you all dinner.

                                                                                                                                  Early impressions: it's a nice, spacious single open room, hardwood floors throughout most so it's a bit noisy (but not terribly so), tables up front away from the bar feel oddly stranded in no man's land. Bar is a large salvaged wood rectangle with at least 35-40
                                                                                                                                  comfortable seats (not stools, thankfully). Bartenders appear to be experienced employees from the group's other locations (Warren Tavern, Devlin's, Orleans, et al). Friendly, professional service. Only sampled a couple pints so I can't speak to the mixology quotient. Decent but safe selection of tap beer -- Guinness, Smithwick's, Harpoon IPA/UFO, Sam regular/ Sam seasonal, Stella, a few others. $5.25 a pint. Bottled imports (the usual suspects) are $4.75. They have lengthy list of ho hum "tinis" and a weirdly long booze+ coffee or hot chocolate after dinner drinks. Crowd was a blend of architects, artists, wealthy empty nesters and workers from nearby offices.

                                                                                                                                  Overall the menu seems unfocused; trying to be everything to everybody and looks like it's the standard repertoire they offer at their other places. Pub-based warhorses like steak tips, grilled chicken and a Saturday prime rib special (?!) combined with dubious efforts to expand on that with things like seafood risotto and pappardelle bolognese.
                                                                                                                                  Most entrees in the $14 to $21 range. I can't imagine who would order "steak au poivre" at $27, but maybe that's me.

                                                                                                                                  Only tried the burger and DC had the salmon with greens. 8oz burger was fresh, juicy on a brioche bun that IMO was too soft and small for the burger, so it was drenched in juice and didnt hold the sandwich together at all. Fontina and carmelized onions are standard on the burger. Fries were crispy, but likely frozen. $11. Salmon was grilled with sauteed spinach. I hate salmon so i didnt try it, but DC said it was tasty. Around $14 or $15.

                                                                                                                                  I really want to like this place because it's close by, but I'm worried the kitchen is trying to do too much and in doing so, will turn out a lot of unremarkable food.

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                                                                                                                                  bear Dec 9, 2009 01:03 PM

                                                                                                                                  Lights and lots of activity at Banjo's on Mass. Ave. in Porter late this afternoon. Looks like they'll be open any day now.

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                                                                                                                                    Chowzmeister Dec 16, 2009 05:23 PM

                                                                                                                                    As of today, they look very close to opening - see picture.

                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                  2. hiddenboston Dec 10, 2009 07:59 AM

                                                                                                                                    Jin on Route 1 in Saugus was shut down by town selectmen earlier this week.

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                                                                                                                                      MC Slim JB Dec 29, 2009 04:18 AM

                                                                                                                                      The final chapter in Jin's tale of woe, a continuing saga in that space: http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/12/29/saugus_restaurant_shuts_down_once_more/

                                                                                                                                      http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

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                                                                                                                                        hiddenboston Dec 29, 2009 05:16 AM

                                                                                                                                        No real surprise that they were shut down. It sounded a bit like The Palace in some ways (an infamous place down the road, and one that I was walking into one night long ago, when all of a sudden a couple came running out of the place, yelling "Some guy's got a GUN!").

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                                                                                                                                      MtVernon Dec 10, 2009 08:02 PM

                                                                                                                                      Vinny T's of Boston, on Boylston Street is closed. Says to visit a location in Lexington. So does that mean it ican not be called Vinny T's of Boston anymore?

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                                                                                                                                        hiddenboston Dec 11, 2009 07:16 AM

                                                                                                                                        Heh, good question!

                                                                                                                                        City Bar and Grill may be opening in the Vinnin Square section of Swampscott. Looks to be an upscale restaurant geared toward an older crowd.

                                                                                                                                        The Citizen may be opening in the Fenway neighborhood. The Franklin Cafe folks are behind this one, which looks to be similar to the Franklin, though a little less expensive.

                                                                                                                                      2. hiddenboston Dec 11, 2009 07:57 AM

                                                                                                                                        One more: La Puerta Del Sol just opened in the old Uncle Pete's spot on Route 60 in Revere.

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                                                                                                                                          Chris VR Dec 11, 2009 11:46 AM

                                                                                                                                          Any verdict on exactly what kind of food they're serving?

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                                                                                                                                            hiddenboston Dec 11, 2009 01:12 PM

                                                                                                                                            All I've heard is that the place features a mix of Central American and South American cuisine. I may wait a bit to hear/read reviews before I head up there.

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                                                                                                                                              galangatron Dec 14, 2009 07:33 AM

                                                                                                                                              they opened about a month ago. the sign outside says "salvadoran, guatemalan, and mexican cuisine" but the menu seemed mostly salvadoran and mexican with a few south american dishes. the food is decent if you're in the immediate area but, personally, i would travel the two or three miles to east boston for better options

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                                                                                                                                          jjbourgeois Dec 14, 2009 04:55 AM

                                                                                                                                          Haven't seen it mentioned yet, but the Stoneforge in Plymouth is closed. Drove by last night and there was a restaurant for lease sign on the building.

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                                                                                                                                            Chowzmeister Dec 14, 2009 05:44 AM

                                                                                                                                            Plymouth isn't listed on their website any more. They did just open a new location in Dartmouth a few months ago. Maybe they planned on closing here.

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                                                                                                                                              hiddenboston Dec 15, 2009 05:56 AM

                                                                                                                                              Did it really? I know some folks down in that area who are into the local restaurant scene and haven't heard about this from them yet. I wonder if the closing happened over the past week or so--thanks for the update.

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                                                                                                                                                jjbourgeois Dec 15, 2009 06:26 AM

                                                                                                                                                I was there, I believe mid to late October for a beer and burger. Place was quiet for a Sunday afternoon. But there was no indication they were closing up.

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                                                                                                                                              bostonbroad Dec 14, 2009 06:22 AM

                                                                                                                                              Something called Arbri Cafe opened in Roslindale on Belgrade Avenue in the space that used to be the Boston Brickhouse (Cafe Appollonia even longer ago). No idea what the concept is or if the owners are the same....

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                                                                                                                                                tamerlanenj Dec 14, 2009 07:47 AM

                                                                                                                                                I may be late to the game here but the place under the Grad Student dorm on Comm Ave near Kenmore is closed again. It had been Campo Fiori, which went under, and its latest iteration was I think Z Square. Seems like a pretty cursed spot. A bit too far from BU central to get student traffic, and in, any case, they seem to be going for more upscale tenants, whose typical clientele don't usually want to eat on the ground floor of a dorm.

                                                                                                                                                1. hiddenboston Dec 15, 2009 05:58 AM

                                                                                                                                                  A new spot called Blue Asia Cafe is opening in Allston (perhaps by next week) in the space on Brighton Avenue where L.A.B. used to be. Sounds like it will be a casual cheap eats place with both dine-in and takeout options, featuring steamed Asian sandwiches and Asian coffee.

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                                                                                                                                                    Allstonian Dec 15, 2009 06:40 AM

                                                                                                                                                    Huh. Won't that be right up against Infustions Tea Spa and The Second Cup in terms of niche?

                                                                                                                                                    I've never heard of steamed Asian sandwiches before - not sure how appealing that sounds, but we shall see.

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                                                                                                                                                      Chrispy75 Dec 16, 2009 09:24 AM

                                                                                                                                                      Mantao in NY does well with their Chinese steamed sandwiches, which are tasty, but a tad pricey. It's a bit like dim sum meets a banh mi. I wonder how well it will do on its own. I see it belonging more in the Super 88 food court.

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                                                                                                                                                        Allstonian Dec 16, 2009 09:38 AM

                                                                                                                                                        Oh, are those like the meat-in-little-steamed-bread-pockets thingies that they have at Shanghai Gate and some other places? Those *are* good, but I agree, may not work as a stand-alone shop rather than a stall at Super 88.

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                                                                                                                                                          Chrispy75 Dec 17, 2009 03:21 AM

                                                                                                                                                          Hmmm, I haven't seen them at Shanghai Gate, but they might offer them as a special on occasion. How you describe them is right on. They are an ok snack food but if I had to choose a Chinese steamed sandwich or banh mi, the banh mi would win hands down.

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                                                                                                                                                            BarmyFotheringayPhipps Dec 17, 2009 01:07 PM

                                                                                                                                                            We've definitely had them at Shanghai Gate, as well as at Jo Jo Taipei. In both cases, my reaction was largely "Sure, but I wouldn't want this every day." I agree, this seems more like something that would go down well at a food court stall more than at a stand-alone.

                                                                                                                                                            But even then, I still would rather have an okonomiyaki stall open up at Hong Kong Market than a place like this.

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                                                                                                                                                      hiddenboston Dec 19, 2009 06:22 AM

                                                                                                                                                      Just a followup on Blue Asia. They will not be serving steamed sandwiches after all--they are putting up a menu on Facebook soon, but right now, other than bubble tea, I'm not sure what else they will be offering.

                                                                                                                                                      Also, contrary to what their info says on their Facebook page, they will not be cash only--they will be accepting credit cards.

                                                                                                                                                    3. hiddenboston Dec 16, 2009 07:49 AM

                                                                                                                                                      Bisuteki recently opened up again on Memorial Drive in Cambridge. No sign of the old Dionysos restaurant, however. :-/

                                                                                                                                                      1. galangatron Dec 16, 2009 07:55 AM

                                                                                                                                                        cafe de lulu opened in the basement of the avana lofts building on beach street in chinatown

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                                                                                                                                                          tamerlanenj Dec 16, 2009 08:32 AM

                                                                                                                                                          And the lunch buffet is a frightening site. I walked in, took a look, walked out.

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                                                                                                                                                          kbarry1726 Dec 16, 2009 10:25 AM

                                                                                                                                                          While I work in Quincy every day, I must have had some sort of Chowhound blinders on. A few changes I noticed today:

                                                                                                                                                          -- This Takes the Cake is gone
                                                                                                                                                          -- Where Roseann's flowers used to be, a sign announces the arrival of Alba's Deli Express
                                                                                                                                                          -- Gunther Tooties, the bagel place from Pembroke, Hanover and Duxbury, is taking over where Eatin' Healthy used to be

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                                                                                                                                                            hiddenboston Dec 16, 2009 11:02 AM

                                                                                                                                                            Gunther Tooties? As in "Car 54, Where Are You"? Wow, great name....

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                                                                                                                                                            bear Dec 16, 2009 04:00 PM

                                                                                                                                                            I was driving by Trolley Square Plaza in Framingham today, and noticed that Fresh Choice Produce Market had opened next to the Indian Grocer there. I didn't have a chance to stop in, but found a little info on the "thisisframingham" blog. Looks like it's worth checking out.

                                                                                                                                                            http://www.thisisframingham.com/fresh...

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                                                                                                                                                              Mr Bigglesworth Dec 16, 2009 05:40 PM

                                                                                                                                                              Temptations is opening another location just outside of Coolidge Corner in one of the vacant spaces by Beacon (right by bowl and board.) I for one happy about this - Tempations makes decent sandwiches and will serve breakfast, two things Coolidge sorely needs (regular breakfast & lunch options....)

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                                                                                                                                                              9lives Dec 17, 2009 08:33 AM

                                                                                                                                                              Sal's Pizza is going to open on Tremont near West St, by the Suffolk dorm

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                                                                                                                                                                hiddenboston Dec 17, 2009 08:43 AM

                                                                                                                                                                Man, are they ever expanding. They just opened one in Woburn and are soon opening another in Norwell. Thanks for the heads-up on this new one!

                                                                                                                                                              2. Joanie Dec 17, 2009 08:54 AM

                                                                                                                                                                Prose is closing on Dec. 31. Don't think that's been reported. Some interesting stuff in the note below.

                                                                                                                                                                December 16, 2008

                                                                                                                                                                Dear friends,
                                                                                                                                                                It has been a rewarding 14 years but regrettably I find myself having difficulty in meeting all the costs involved in keeping Prose up and running and have opted to not renew the Arlington beer and wine license for the upcoming new year. Our last hurrah will be our New Years Eve Beer Pairing Dinner Party. We have a few events already planned for the month of January, including another Arte Dominum Arts Dinner so I will renew the food operators permit for 2010 in order to have those events. We just won't be able to sell alcohol at them. We also plan to have a coffee dinner with a local roaster. We will continue doing home catering until I am able to sell the restaurant. I am trying to sell the place to another chef/owner so it just doesn't become a soulless chain outlet or a sports bar with a tv on every table - but if they do want that we do have 2 old tvs(non digital of course) in the basement!
                                                                                                                                                                We at Prose would humbly like to extend our sincerest and heartfelt thanks to all of you who supported us through the years (and even a shout out to the mostly anonymous people in cyberspace who loved to entertainingly complain about us on various dining blogs and foodie gossip sites!). We could always count on you, our loyal customers, to go on those sites and vigorously and even more entertainingly defend us! We are all very grateful to have gotten to know you over the years. We are also eternally grateful for all of you who came out for our "rent party" in the early autumn giving us another few months of life!
                                                                                                                                                                We hope to be seeing you in these last few weeks of 2009 and perhaps at our "Big Night" New Years Dinner. We are still open until then and are still taking Christmas catering orders as well. I will keep in touch and let you know of any upcoming events I am planning in other spaces as well as "underground" restaurant dinners.(For those of you who are interested in hosting them at your homes or other secret hideaways please feel free to contact me - the host always gets to eat and imbibe for free!) I hope you will all continue to keep in touch as well by emailing prosefood@aol.com.
                                                                                                                                                                Thanks, Debbie Shore and all the Prose family

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                                                                                                                                                                  hiddenboston Dec 17, 2009 09:37 AM

                                                                                                                                                                  Sad to hear this, Joanie, but I guess I'm not surprised. Whenever I drove by this place it always seemed empty. It's kind of in a no-man's land between the center of town and East Arlington, which I'm sure didn't help.

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                                                                                                                                                                    pemma Dec 18, 2009 04:49 AM

                                                                                                                                                                    Yes, I live in then next town over and drive by that way fairly often and have never heard of Prose or seen it. I can't believe they've been there 14 years!

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                                                                                                                                                                      Joanie Dec 18, 2009 04:54 AM

                                                                                                                                                                      Well, it's been talked about quite a bit off and on so you should have at least heard of it. But it is an unassuming storefront. I went a long time ago and had a good enough meal but never got back tot experience the "quirkiness" that's been reported.

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                                                                                                                                                                    MC Slim JB Dec 17, 2009 02:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                    I think she might have been alluding to multiple Chowhound reports of her rather prickly lack of hospitality as a chef/owner, something I personally experienced myself. It's too bad: I liked her food, but that's only one side of the house.

                                                                                                                                                                    http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

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                                                                                                                                                                    djd Dec 17, 2009 04:15 PM

                                                                                                                                                                    Judging by a takeout menu tacked up in my Allston karate dojo, a new vegan pizza place has opened in the TJ Scallywaggle's spot. I'm dismayed to see that every single option has vegan cheeze... no delicious mixed vegetable/non-fakeitude pies... but it's not like I'm ever going to go there anyway. Reports from TJS were uniformly horrible, so I'm glad my vegan friends may have better options.

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                                                                                                                                                                      nsenada Dec 18, 2009 05:12 AM

                                                                                                                                                                      Looks like they are actually doing some work on the Fava space in Needham. I really hope it's not another red sauce joint. We went from zero to two within 50 yards in the past year.

                                                                                                                                                                      You should post "TJ Scallywaggle'" to the "worst names" topic. They could serve ambrosia of the gods, fountain of youth mineral water, and reasonably-priced cupcakes, and I still wouldn't go in there, for fear someone would ask me from whence my food came.

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                                                                                                                                                                        hiddenboston Dec 18, 2009 05:44 AM

                                                                                                                                                                        The restaurant going into the old Fava space is apparently going to be called the Center Cafe. Not sure what kind of food, but I believe they may be open later this month or early in 2010.

                                                                                                                                                                    2. Chris VR Dec 17, 2009 06:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                                      I don't know when it closed but the factory outlet store at the NECCO factory in Revere seems to be closed permanently. No box of Skybars for dad for Christmas...

                                                                                                                                                                      1. hiddenboston Dec 18, 2009 05:45 AM

                                                                                                                                                                        Salvatore's is going to open a new location on High Street in Medford Square.

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                                                                                                                                                                          pemma Dec 21, 2009 04:56 AM

                                                                                                                                                                          That's good news. I think a place like that will do well there. Is it going in the old Century Bank spot that was originally slated for another restaurant?

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                                                                                                                                                                            hiddenboston Dec 21, 2009 07:42 AM

                                                                                                                                                                            I'm almost positive it's going into that spot. Was it Carrolls that was to go in there?

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                                                                                                                                                                              pemma Dec 21, 2009 09:07 AM

                                                                                                                                                                              It wasn't going to be a reincarnation of the old Carroll's diner, but members of the Carroll family were behind it. It was supposed to be an upscale rotisserie concept.

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                                                                                                                                                                                phonelady Dec 21, 2009 09:18 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                It was to have been an upscale steak house - 55 Main, I believe.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  hiddenboston Dec 21, 2009 09:23 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                  Oh, right! I totally forgot about that place.

                                                                                                                                                                        2. hiddenboston Dec 18, 2009 09:13 AM

                                                                                                                                                                          Man, this thread is already getting unwieldly and we're still a few days away from winter.

                                                                                                                                                                          Just found out that Jae's in Brookline will be closing next month and reopening a couple of months later (same ownership) as a similar (for the most part) Asian-fusion spot.

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                                                                                                                                                                            Joanie Dec 18, 2009 09:22 AM

                                                                                                                                                                            Is this basically a renovation thing? I've had some very pleasant meals there and esp. loved the room when it was the fish place. Dover? I think it began with D.

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                                                                                                                                                                              nsenada Dec 18, 2009 09:40 AM

                                                                                                                                                                              Yes, I think so. Was it Providence, before that?

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                                                                                                                                                                                CookieLee Dec 18, 2009 09:54 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                Yes, it was. I don't seem to include Jae's in our rotation, I'm not sure why. I've always had a nice meal there, be it lunch or dinner.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  Joanie Dec 18, 2009 10:11 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                  I think Providence was after. Not sure, had a great meal at the bar of Prov. tho.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    purple bot Dec 18, 2009 10:34 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                    Yes, Dover Sea Grill, IIRC, then Providence. I really liked Providence.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      nsenada Dec 18, 2009 10:51 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                      I did, too - my fave of the occupants of that space.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  hiddenboston Dec 18, 2009 10:47 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                  It sounds like a combination re-branding/renovation. The food sounds like it will be fairly similar, but perhaps leaning more toward Chinese dishes.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  bear Dec 18, 2009 11:28 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                  Hey, Marc,

                                                                                                                                                                                  Maybe we should do this month by month for a while to make it more manageable.. Just a thought.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    hiddenboston Dec 18, 2009 11:46 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                    Yeh, not a bad idea. Each season the threads seem to grow bigger and bigger! Hopefully the CH team will let us do this month by month (I don't see why not).

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                                                                                                                                                                                      Allstonian Dec 18, 2009 12:04 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                      I would also strongly encourage folks to keep these threads specifically to news and discussion of openings and closings, and avoid posting reviews of new places here. I deliberately made my review of Symphony 8 a new post on the board because it seems as though reviews are getting lost in these long "openings and closings" threads.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        MC Slim JB Dec 18, 2009 01:05 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                        Also, at some point, meta-discussion of the Openings and Closings thread will need its own thread.

                                                                                                                                                                                        http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

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                                                                                                                                                                                          nsenada Dec 18, 2009 01:36 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                          Definitely. Oops, sorry.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    laura jean Dec 21, 2009 08:31 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                    Do you have any idea of the date Jae's will close? I have a couple restaurant.com gift certificates there that I'd like to use before they renovate.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      hiddenboston Dec 21, 2009 08:42 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                      Looks like Jae's will be closing sometime in January. The new place will have the same ownership, so you would think they would honor the gift certificates, but it's probably best to use them now just in case.

                                                                                                                                                                                      BTW, just found out that the Robinwood Cafe in JP may be opening in the next few days, and it sounds like it'll be a diner with all kinds of cheap eats.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    catsmeow Dec 19, 2009 01:30 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                    The Greek Market opened today on Washington St at the corner of Bussey on the Dedham/ West Roxbury line. Lots of Greek groceries, fresh feta...about 6 kinds, an olive bar...their prepared food counter wasn't stocked yet. Looks promising.

                                                                                                                                                                                    1. hiddenboston Dec 21, 2009 07:52 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                      Just saw an interesting post on the EveryBlock Boston page: A place called Brother's Crawfish is opening near Fields Corner in Dorchester. Absolutely no other info on the place as of yet, but the name intrigues me!

                                                                                                                                                                                      1. hiddenboston Dec 22, 2009 06:03 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                        The Bombay Club has opened in its new South End location (in the former Pho Republique spot on Washington Street).

                                                                                                                                                                                        Also, Legal C Bar has opened at Legacy Place in Dedham.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          bakerboyz Dec 22, 2009 06:33 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                          Another Comella's outlet is opening soon in Needham...not sure if this is a good thing or not. I haven't been for awile as the last time I got one of their "messes" it was mostly pasta with sauce.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            nsenada Dec 23, 2009 05:25 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                            I was bummed it didn't turn out to be an Italian deli, as I had originally heard. I guess I would try a meatball sub jammed inside a lasagna, topped with mozzarella sticks, stuffed inside a calzone, or whatever it is they do, maybe once.

                                                                                                                                                                                            Looks like Center Cafe is progressing fairly quickly in the old Fava spot.

                                                                                                                                                                                          2. hiddenboston Dec 22, 2009 07:43 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                            Thanks to Grub Street Boston, we now know when Olecito in Brookline Village should be opening (mid-January).

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                                                                                                                                                                                              beefstick Dec 22, 2009 04:39 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                              Sam's Wayside Bistro is opening up on Main Street in Reading, right off 95 (where Waysde Bazaar was). Supposed to be the same owner/s as Tanner Tavern in Woburn and Stearns and Hill's Bistro in Melrose. Never been to either myself. Also in Reading...a new place called "O'Yea" is opening in Walker's Brook. I tried Googling to see if it was a chain or what the deal was, but couldn't really find anything on it. Anyone know about this place?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                hiddenboston Dec 23, 2009 05:25 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                Thanks for reminding me about Sam's. I wrote about it more than half a year ago and totally forgot about the place. Looks like they will be opening next spring.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                djd Dec 27, 2009 07:41 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                Bizarrely enough, Little Stevie's Pizza is... renovating? Everything different, only about four pie options. (Possibly the full menu will return when they're done changing the entire inside out.)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                1114 Boylston St, Boston, MA 02215

                                                                                                                                                                                                1. hiddenboston Dec 28, 2009 06:40 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Not sure if anyone has mentioned this in another thread, but Aristo Cafe has opened on State Street in downtown Boston (where Finagle-A-Bagel used to be). Looks like mostly soups, salads, and sandwiches, and they are open seven days a week.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    lergnom Dec 28, 2009 07:46 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    To my utter amazement, the grease pit that has always been Eagles Deli is being gutted. The entire store front has been removed down to the brick and the interior is being busily made over. Appears it will stay Eagles but will now be less likely to spontaneously combust. I wonder if they will keep the challenges.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      hiddenboston Dec 28, 2009 08:11 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      WHAT???? They better not go upscale on us. If they put ONE hanging plant in that place.....

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        Joanie Dec 28, 2009 09:46 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                        I remember seeing that a while ago and wondered what was up. I saw one other surprising closure but damned if my fuzzy memory can retrieve it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      2. itaunas Dec 28, 2009 03:24 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                        I think it closed longer ago (spring??), but I recently tried to stop by Pasta D'oro in Everett and it was gone. Enough decent options for fresh pasta in the area, but with Regina's changing its stock significantly there does seem to be declining Italian options in Everett. But they do still have a regular Italian mass...

                                                                                                                                                                                                        I noticed a while back the (usually and rotating) Brazilian space on Somerville Ave across from Dane St is open as of 6 weeks ago and as of last week it was sporting a Cafe Belo banner. Thats interesting for a couple of reasons: they used to run a Cafe Belo Express in a smaller space on the next corner until it had a bad grease fire and since then was been a bit cursed, much like the space they are moving into which has been so since Bar Brasil (in a smaller adjoining space which shared a restroom) moved to Samba Bar. I would guess they are probably going to try a bar to compete with Samba (I saw a mention of live entertainment), perhaps with enough delivery and the post-Saint Anthony's crowd to make it profitable. But that is speculation.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        PB Restaurant on 99 in Broadway had sign that apparently said Bobo's Grill, which is a name (from the dish bobo^ bo-boh) I have seen elsewhere. Not certain where as in the timeframe I am thinking I would have been to Peabody which has Frigideira Capixaba (tasty, but low quality ingredients buffet, perhaps better a la carte). In any case, I hope it hasn't changed, but will have to see.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        East by Northeast in Cambridge has had the paper off the windows for a few weeks and signs of ordering supplies, but I assume any info on menu or opening will hit twitter before they post anything in the window. The new Muqueca space is stripped to the brick in some places and major construction seems done, but probably still a month or two away from becoming a dining room. I wonder with the larger space whether they might try to add a liquor license which would seem logical.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          SeaSide Tomato Feb 2, 2010 10:38 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                          I loved Pasta D'Oro--the single best pumpkin tortelloni I've ever had.

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Beat every pumpkim/butternut squash ravioli/tortolini/tortoloni etc. hands down.

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Is it truly gone? What happened?

                                                                                                                                                                                                        2. hiddenboston Dec 30, 2009 06:39 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Looks like Tango Pizza on Brooks Street in Brighton has closed. A new place called Alpacino's Italian Kitchen will be opening in that spot within a couple of weeks.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            Parsnipity Dec 30, 2009 10:12 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                            I don't think this has been posted, but as mentioned the unwieldyness of the thread means I could have missed it. There is now a special permitting sign in the window of Bowl & Board's old space in Davis Square (formerly MacIntyre & Moore books) that says a permit for "restaurant & lounge without parking spaces" has been applied for by Rockwell Restaurant group. A quick google search reveals some Japanese restaurants and mention of Nobu design connected with them. Not sure if it's _the_ Nobu? Anyone have more info?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              Chowzmeister Dec 30, 2009 11:50 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                              I don't know any more than you do, but from what I see online it looks like the Rockwell Restaurant Group is a company that designs restaurants not run them.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                hotoynoodle Jan 4, 2010 08:53 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                former gm of temple bar and grafton street is behind this space. financing and licensing in place.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                greenzebra Dec 31, 2009 05:03 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                The folks who own the Independent and Precinct in Union Square want to open a restaurant and a lounge, and reopen the theater (formerly Jimmy Tingle's) in the space. Don't know much about what the menu is proposed to be.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              3. Joanie Dec 31, 2009 03:31 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Are we gonna start a new one of these on Jan. 1?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                  hiddenboston Dec 31, 2009 06:08 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Yes! And since MC and I have had our turns in starting these openings/closings threads, I say that you start the January one, Joanie! :-)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                    marlysdad Feb 16, 2010 06:07 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Roadhouse in Brookline has shut it's doors. The smoker being shut down sealed it's fate. In it's space will be..

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    http://beeradvocate.com/forum/read/25...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                  cpingenot Feb 26, 2010 11:49 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  In case this got lost in the part of the thread devoted to Friendly's- I think that the Clover folk are trying to open a harvard sq location on Holyoake street

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. hiddenboston Feb 26, 2010 12:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    b.good is opening a new location on Mass. Ave. in the Back Bay (where Boloco was). Also, they maybe looking into another new space on Washington Street in or near Downtown Crossing.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. hiddenboston Feb 26, 2010 12:35 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      One more: It looks like Buddhachen will open in Brookline next week (where Jae's used to be).

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