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bruceter Nov 20, 2009 08:08 PM

sadly Viking Deli ,bakery and - well - smokehouse ,up in smoke tonight on Laird

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  1. CeeQueue RE: bruceter Nov 20, 2009 08:13 PM

    Oh dear, what a shame! It must be a huge fire...I counted 18 dispatched units on the active incident page (http://www.toronto.ca/fire/cadinfo/li...).

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    1. re: CeeQueue
      flyjawn76 RE: CeeQueue Nov 21, 2009 07:12 PM

      this is a true tragedy. the entire finnish community in the GTA relies on viking to supply us with finnish products at xmas. i don't know where we're going to find a smoked ham for this year.

      worst of all, i have family that worked there who are now unemployed.

    2. foodyDudey RE: bruceter Nov 20, 2009 10:06 PM

      That was going to be my first stop in the morning. I gues the salmon will be extra smoked. They had the best bacon I have found, now I won't be able to get any. I bet they won't re-open.

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      1. re: foodyDudey
        acd123 RE: foodyDudey Nov 21, 2009 05:50 AM

        If they don't re-open, it will be a huge loss. I love that place. I really hope they do.

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        Nyleve RE: bruceter Nov 21, 2009 07:27 AM

        Good grief. I went there for the very first time on Wednesday and picked up a smoked whitefish for tomorrow's anniversay brunch I'm throwing for some friends. I guess we'll have to toast the deli as well as the anniversary.

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          foodyDudey RE: Nyleve Nov 21, 2009 07:52 AM

          Did you pick up the smoked salmon and bacon? Those are my favourites. For two weeks I've wanted to make a trip there but didn't have a chance, last night I figured I'll be there early but then read this post last night. I drove over to have a look since I had some other errands in the area. The owners and cleanup crew were there. I could see through the windows as I drove by slowly and it didn't look too bad, I couldn't even see any smoke damage in the interior. I was expecting to see a shell of a building but it's not that bad at all from what I saw. That's great, as I've been missing the salmon and bacon for a few weeks. Maybe next week there's be a sale on triple smoked items :-)

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            Nyleve RE: foodyDudey Nov 21, 2009 08:10 AM

            I got a small package of cold smoked salmon as well as the whitefish. I wanted some of the hot smoked salmon also but they didn't have any that day. (Anniversary girl doesn't like floppy fish.) Good to hear it doesn't look like it was totalled. Looking forward to the fish tomorrow and, hopefully, more in the future. Will definitely try the bacon when they're back up and running. Triple smoked should cost MORE not less!

        2. Kenster1025 RE: bruceter Nov 21, 2009 12:50 PM

          I snapped some pictures this morning, it was very sad to see it go, a lot of Estonian's would go to pick up Salmon and sausages. My grandmother and my mom originally went there, and we always wanted to return. I hope they re-open.

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            Kenster1025 RE: Kenster1025 Nov 21, 2009 01:33 PM

            Here is a better one

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              lyndak RE: Kenster1025 Nov 21, 2009 04:05 PM

              What a tragedy. I really hope they reopen.

              My mother also took me there when I was a kid. I have vivid memories of their rye bread, pirukad (Estonian meat buns) herring and risolje.

              very sad indeed.

              1. re: lyndak
                Dr Butcher RE: lyndak Nov 21, 2009 07:31 PM

                Kenster and lyndak, I'm in the same boat. My dad's side of the family is Estonian and I've loved Viking's wares for years, especially the pirukad and smoked whitefish. I had a chance to go last week and passed it up. Now I wish I had made the trip....

                It's a shame and a great loss. Hopefully they'll reopen.

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                  DanieDines RE: Dr Butcher Nov 21, 2009 10:31 PM

                  So sad to hear this. Have an uncle in Ottawa from Norway in a retirement home.
                  Now where will I get him his favourite treats.Especially Licorice.
                  Hope they can recover. Glad no one was hurt.

                  1. re: DanieDines
                    Chatty Cathy RE: DanieDines Nov 22, 2009 06:52 AM

                    For what it's worth, Viking has an outlet open to the public where you might find Finnish candies and licorice. It's at 31 Railside Road (Don Valley and Lawrence). I haven't been there in a while but I assume it's still open.

                    No fresh baked goods, deli, or smokehouse, but a good variety of imported packaged goods.

                    Agreed, the fire is a real tragedy. It's especially bad now as they were no doubt gearing up for the Xmas rush. Hope they get back on their feet very soon!

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                      DanieDines RE: Chatty Cathy Nov 25, 2009 09:16 PM

                      Thanks so much for the info, I will be over that way this week for the Wildly Delicious sale and did not know about their outlet. Will have time to get some in the mail for the holidays. Appreciate it.

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                        Chatty Cathy RE: DanieDines Nov 27, 2009 05:48 AM

                        You're welcome.

                        I wonder if it would be possible for Viking to temporarily find a kitchen that meets health regulations and perhaps sell some baked goods, etc on Railside as a temporary retail outlet??

                        DD, perhaps you could inquire when you are there?

                2. re: lyndak
                  Yongeman RE: lyndak Nov 22, 2009 09:08 PM

                  If I'm not mistaken, I think that the Hillside Bakery on Mt. Pleasant may be run by Estonian or Finnish people. They won't have the smoked products, but may have some of the other baked goods that people are already missing.

                  1. re: Yongeman
                    Chatty Cathy RE: Yongeman Nov 23, 2009 10:35 AM

                    Yes, I believe they are run by Estonian people, but do carry some Finnish baked goods, like pulla. Not quite as good as Viking but will do in a pinch.

                    The Finnish Place also sells some packaged foodie items like chocolates and preserves.

                  2. re: lyndak
                    Kenster1025 RE: lyndak Nov 24, 2009 06:39 PM

                    Pirukad are great. Hillside is runned by Estonians my Grandmother and aunt know the people who run it. Gelled meat is great. I wish I had gone to Viking, I really hope the reopen. Blood Sausage I hope they reopen with blood sausage.

                3. re: Kenster1025
                  pakmode RE: Kenster1025 Nov 22, 2009 01:00 PM

                  Sad,sad news.

                  Was just there a couple weeks ago for some smoked salmon and a doughnut.

                4. atomeyes RE: bruceter Nov 22, 2009 02:22 PM

                  I wonder what Caplansky will do for his lux..

                  sad that an institution like Viking is gone. heard the news of a deli burning down but i had no idea it was Viking.

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                    Nyleve RE: bruceter Nov 22, 2009 03:10 PM

                    We enjoyed a Viking smoked whitefish for brunch today - made a toast to a future re-opening. Very sad indeed.

                    1. Davwud RE: bruceter Nov 23, 2009 03:41 AM

                      I had been meaning to go there and try it out. Almost stopped last week but was running a bit late.


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                      1. re: Davwud
                        TorontoJo RE: Davwud Nov 23, 2009 04:02 AM

                        I know, I wanted to try their bacon. Damn. I hope everyone is all right and that they are up and running again soon.

                        1. re: TorontoJo
                          Davwud RE: TorontoJo Nov 23, 2009 04:16 AM

                          I'm no expert but it doesn't look like the building suffered too much damage. Maybe this is a good thing. They can rebuild with state of the art technology.


                          1. re: Davwud
                            Tatai RE: Davwud Nov 23, 2009 04:42 AM

                            Unfortunately, though, insurance companies are notoriously slow in handing out money for fire-insurance claims. Could take a while...

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                              Davwud RE: Tatai Nov 23, 2009 04:57 AM

                              Our local Bark and Fitz has had ply wood on the front and side windows for three weeks now because of a car that didn't realize it wasn't a drive thru. You have to go in through their rec'ing door. 3 WEEKS!!


                              1. re: Tatai
                                foodyDudey RE: Tatai Nov 23, 2009 05:41 AM

                                And I bet they don't want to insure a smokehouse that has already gone up in smoke. Well let's hope they are up and running soon, I am out of bacon and after eating theirs, I can't go anywhere else for it. And I like their smoked salmon more than Kristapson's.

                                1. re: foodyDudey
                                  Davwud RE: foodyDudey Nov 23, 2009 06:04 AM

                                  I don't know if you get out to the west end much but if you do (Or are willing to make a trip) try Kingsway Meats at Windermere and Bloor.

                                  Excellent bacon, kobassa and village sausage.


                                  1. re: foodyDudey
                                    acd123 RE: foodyDudey Nov 23, 2009 06:07 AM

                                    I have another suggestion. Okay, it's not Milbree Viking, but it's pretty damn good. The smoked salmon at Harbord Baker is really good. smokey, buttery goodness. I don't know who they get it from.

                              2. re: TorontoJo
                                foodyDudey RE: TorontoJo Nov 26, 2009 01:25 PM

                                I talked to the owner of Milbree Viking (Liisa) yesterday and she says it will be 6 to 8 months before they re-open. That would be somewhere between late May and July, I'll have to make my own smoked sallmon and bacon now.

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                                  Pincus RE: foodyDudey Nov 26, 2009 02:01 PM

                                  Good to hear they are continuing on.

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                                    embee RE: foodyDudey Nov 26, 2009 07:27 PM

                                    I certainly hope they get going again. The dates sound awfully optimistic. I suspect the attitude of their insurance company will be the main factor. Perl's on Bathurst St was burned out three years ago and they haven't reopened yet.

                                    1. re: embee
                                      Tatai RE: embee Nov 26, 2009 07:37 PM

                                      Construction at Perl's ground to a complete halt months ago.

                                      1. re: embee
                                        Vinnie Vidimangi RE: embee Nov 26, 2009 08:05 PM

                                        There is a lack of agreement among Perl's children.

                                      2. re: foodyDudey
                                        BeanerSchitzl RE: foodyDudey Nov 27, 2009 06:04 AM

                                        Ya it took about that long when Vienna Meats had their fire at their store/smokehouse on Birchmount Road last year. They are back though with the grrat Imbiss still in the back.

                                        1. re: BeanerSchitzl
                                          CeeQueue RE: BeanerSchitzl Nov 27, 2009 07:48 AM

                                          Just tried their Wednesday special of potato pancakes -- SO good. The line-up never stopped the whole time I was there with everyone ordering potato pancakes.

                                        2. re: foodyDudey
                                          Sparky777 RE: foodyDudey Sep 5, 2010 07:08 AM

                                          The Milbree Viking web site now says the old place on Laird is going to be demolished, and that they are "in the process of settling on a new location".

                                          133 Laird Dr, Toronto, ON M4G3V5, CA

                                    2. CeeQueue RE: bruceter Nov 29, 2009 05:47 PM

                                      They reran the episode of Street Eats that had Viking Deli on it (Nordic food). It was sad to see Liisa sharing her food specialties so proudly with the show hosts. I do hope they are able to get up and running again sooner rather than later (and that they have good insurance).

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                                      1. re: CeeQueue
                                        foodyDudey RE: CeeQueue Jan 20, 2010 09:58 AM

                                        I just heard some info that would indicate that Viking won't be re-opening at that same location. They'll have to move somewhere else if they re-open.

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                                          Davwud RE: foodyDudey Jan 20, 2010 11:06 AM

                                          I've driven by the building a couple of times. It doesn't look that bad from the outside.

                                          Perhaps it's the imputes to move to better facilities/location.


                                          1. re: Davwud
                                            foodyDudey RE: Davwud Jan 20, 2010 11:30 AM

                                            I'll explain later why I know they won't re-open there. Since it hasn't been announced anywhere, I don't want to leak any info. But it has to do with re-development of the general area.

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                                              estufarian RE: foodyDudey Jan 20, 2010 01:04 PM

                                              Aha the rumoured Longo's!?- Except it hasn`t been announced anywhere???

                                              But seriously, let me know if you determine a new location. We desperately miss their whole smoked turkey.

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                                                Chatty Cathy RE: foodyDudey Jan 20, 2010 01:51 PM

                                                Well if not the very same location, I hope it'll still be in the general area. There's a large Finnish retirement residence just up the street from Viking, on Eglinton Ave, and the residents (including some of my family members) will be very disappointed if it's no longer nearby.

                                                1. re: Chatty Cathy
                                                  sumashi RE: Chatty Cathy Jan 20, 2010 07:52 PM

                                                  Aww, I really miss Milbree's cold smoked salmon!!!

                                                  I drove by recently and noticed a little sign in the building just north of Milbree's.... Looks like somebody is selling smoked salmon on the weekends there? Has anybody tried it?

                                        2. CocoaChanel RE: bruceter Apr 11, 2010 12:44 PM

                                          Any update on Viking? Will they rebuild? I have not been out that way in some time to even check out what may be going on.

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                                          1. re: CocoaChanel
                                            estufarian RE: CocoaChanel Apr 11, 2010 12:46 PM

                                            I was by a couple of weeks back - still boarded up.

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                                              CocoaChanel RE: estufarian Apr 11, 2010 12:50 PM

                                              Thanks Estufarian

                                            2. re: CocoaChanel
                                              foodyDudey RE: CocoaChanel Apr 11, 2010 01:44 PM

                                              Even if they rebuild, it won't be at that location.

                                            3. Davwud RE: bruceter Apr 12, 2010 08:24 AM


                                              I was in the area so I stopped to have a look. The place is completely boarded up. No doors anywhere.
                                              The phone number gives you a message that they're closed due to the fire. No other information.


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                                              1. re: Davwud
                                                foodyDudey RE: Davwud Apr 12, 2010 10:01 AM

                                                It's been boarded up for a long time. The land was sold, so they won't be opening there again.

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                                                  scootoeat RE: foodyDudey Oct 9, 2010 09:09 AM

                                                  Viking Foods is having a grand opening at a new location 31 Railside Rd, Unit 5, Toronto, Oct 19.

                                                  Railside Restaurant
                                                  112 Peter St, Port Hope, ON L1A1C3, CA

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                                                    always_eating RE: scootoeat Oct 9, 2010 09:32 AM

                                                    Oh yay! Glad to see them back. I Google Mapped to see where the new location is: http://ow.ly/2R582 More parking!

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                                                      acd123 RE: scootoeat Oct 9, 2010 10:41 AM

                                                      Very happy to see them back although the new location is not very convenient for me. I'll have to combine visits with Arz and Diana's

                                                      1909 Lawrence Ave E, Toronto, ON M1R, CA

                                                      1. re: acd123
                                                        jayt90 RE: acd123 Oct 9, 2010 11:28 AM

                                                        I agree, plus a trip to P.A.T., and lunch at High Street Fish and Chips

                                                        High Street
                                                        55 Underhill Dr, Toronto, ON M3A2J8, CA

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                                                          acd123 RE: jayt90 Oct 9, 2010 12:59 PM

                                                          We've got a PAT in our neighbourhood but thanks for the High Street tip. Will check it out.

                                                          High Street
                                                          55 Underhill Dr, Toronto, ON M3A2J8, CA

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                                                            millygirl RE: acd123 Oct 9, 2010 03:07 PM

                                                            What is PAT?

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                                                              Full tummy RE: millygirl Oct 9, 2010 03:26 PM

                                                              Korean grocery store on Lawrence west of Warden.

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                                                                acd123 RE: Full tummy Oct 9, 2010 03:58 PM

                                                                And on Bloor, south side, between Bathurst and Christie

                                                          2. re: jayt90
                                                            jlunar RE: jayt90 Oct 13, 2010 03:47 PM

                                                            Get the (cold) Melton Mowbury Pie! Yum!

                                                        2. re: scootoeat
                                                          jjmellon RE: scootoeat Oct 11, 2010 10:18 AM

                                                          It appears from their websites that the Viking Foods on Railside Rd. http://www.vikingfoods.ca/AboutUs.html is a different business from Milbree Viking http://www.milbreeviking.com/store/ , whose homepage now says "We have moved! Our new address is Unit 2, 350 Davis Dr., Newmarket, Ontario, L3Y 2N7. We are still setting up but our doors will open to the public very soon!"

                                                          True or false?

                                                          1. re: jjmellon
                                                            Tatai RE: jjmellon Oct 11, 2010 11:29 AM

                                                            It appears that you're absolutely correct, jjmellon. The Viking operation on Railside drive is strictly a distributor of imported Scandinavian foods.

                                                            Railside Restaurant
                                                            112 Peter St, Port Hope, ON L1A1C3, CA

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                                                              CocoaChanel RE: jjmellon Oct 11, 2010 12:23 PM


                                                              Damn! That is a long way to drive for smoked slamon and sourdough rye...

                                                              *look up address on Google Maps*

                                                              1. re: CocoaChanel
                                                                acd123 RE: CocoaChanel Oct 12, 2010 06:04 AM

                                                                Despite the quality of the Milbree smoked salmon, I'm not driving to Newmarket for it. Too bad about their location decision. I'll stick with the salmon at Harbord Bakery, which is oily and smokey too.

                                                                Harbord Bakery
                                                                115 Harbord St, Toronto, ON M5S, CA

                                                              2. re: jjmellon
                                                                Brain of J RE: jjmellon Oct 12, 2010 10:34 AM

                                                                But the old Viking on Laird (where the fire was) is the same ownership as the new Railside locale, correct?

                                                                Railside Restaurant
                                                                112 Peter St, Port Hope, ON L1A1C3, CA

                                                                1. re: Brain of J
                                                                  Tatai RE: Brain of J Oct 12, 2010 12:23 PM

                                                                  No, not from what I've gleaned from reading both websites.

                                                                  1. re: Tatai
                                                                    embee RE: Tatai Oct 13, 2010 03:02 PM

                                                                    I suspect that the owners of Railside used to own Laird, and sold to the people who are now in Newmarket some years ago (when the name of the place on Laird was changed to "Milbree" Viking. Presumably the recipes/processes came with the business.

                                                                    1. re: embee
                                                                      Chatty Cathy RE: embee Oct 14, 2010 11:21 AM

                                                                      Okay. here's what I've been told by my Finnish-Canadian hubby, whose family has been a patron of Milbree-Viking for many years.

                                                                      Viking Deli was originally run by a proprietor whose focus was on butchering, and the deli's speciality in those days was meats, including of course deli meats. When he decided to retire, his business was purchased by the owners of Milbree Bakery, a Finnish bakery which used to be in Richmond Hill but is now closed. (I'm not sure but it may have closed around the time it purchased Viking Deli.) After the name changed to Milbree-Viking, there was emphasis now on the bakery side of the business.

                                                                      I could be wrong but I don't believe there is any connection between Milbree-Viking and Viking Imports.

                                                                      In any event, next week (Tues-Thurs) Viking Imports will be celebrating their 55th anniversary with coffee and refreshments, and there will be specials for customers. The proprietor is usually around and could probably clear up any confusion about their business relationship with Milbree-Viking.

                                                                  2. re: Brain of J
                                                                    CocoaChanel RE: Brain of J Oct 12, 2010 01:35 PM

                                                                    My understanding (and I could be wrong) was that Railside was the distribution centre for the Laird business. So, retail was at Laird, and from Railside, Viking supplied to other retailers (eg to Starsky foods for the Fazer fruit jellies and other Fazer chocolates)

                                                                    2040 Dundas St E, Mississauga, ON L4X, CA

                                                                    1. re: Brain of J
                                                                      Chatty Cathy RE: Brain of J Oct 13, 2010 09:30 AM

                                                                      I was also under the incorrect impression that both Vikings are related. They are separate businesses, which happen to have similar names. The Railside location is not new, and has been there for years. It does distribute merchandise to various retail stores in Toronto and also sells direct to the public Finnish candies/chocolates, jams, crackers, sauna soaps, etc.

                                                                      I'm gonna miss the Finnish pulla and smoked salmon, and don't plan to make the drive to Newmarket. Our family will be switching to Hillside Bakery for the pulla, which is pretty good now, and maybe try Diana's for the smoked salmon.

                                                                      1. re: Chatty Cathy
                                                                        TuuliKH RE: Chatty Cathy Nov 5, 2010 06:24 AM

                                                                        It will be worth the drive. Only 45 minutes to Davis Drive to enjoy Karelian pastries and better pulla? I'm there.

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                                                                          LidaK RE: TuuliKH Nov 21, 2010 03:28 PM

                                                                          1) Has anyone been to the Church Bazaar mentioned on the Viking web page:
                                                                          Agricola Finnish Lutheran Church Christmas Bazaar on:
                                                                          Saturday November 27th from 9:00AM to 12:00 Noon

                                                                          2) Does the Railside Rd. Viking warehouse sell to the public? Can you walk in and buy? Do you havre to buy whole cases of food?

                                                                          1. re: LidaK
                                                                            Chatty Cathy RE: LidaK Nov 22, 2010 10:44 AM

                                                                            This bazaar usually sells fresh pulla, Karelia pastries, S cookies, and I think also traditional joulu tortu (Christmas prune pastries). You'll need to be there right at 9 am for best selection.

                                                                            Yes, the Viking warehouse sells to the public and you just walk in. You do not have to buy whole cases; you can buy just one package if you like. They have a good selection of Finnish chocolates by Fazer, which is what I usually buy there, but I should mention that the candies are frequently close to their 'best before dates', in case that is a concern for you.

                                                            2. atomeyes RE: bruceter Aug 17, 2011 12:00 PM

                                                              Looks like something's being done to Viking.
                                                              There were demolition/garbage bins outside the other day. Yesterday, the door was open. Looks like work is being done.

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                                                                foodyDudey RE: atomeyes Aug 17, 2011 01:06 PM

                                                                Is it still Viking? I don't think so. And is it going to be Viking again? No it won't. So don't get your hopes up.

                                                                1. re: foodyDudey
                                                                  atomeyes RE: foodyDudey Aug 17, 2011 02:17 PM

                                                                  why would it not be Viking?
                                                                  i assume the building sat empty until the insurance claim was settled. doesn't look like they are demolishing the property (yet)

                                                                  1. re: atomeyes
                                                                    CocoaChanel RE: atomeyes Aug 17, 2011 03:50 PM

                                                                    The Viking Deli re-opened (sans the smokers) in Newmarket about a year ago. Mr. Vuitton was up that way a few months ago - they are open Wed or Thurs through Saturday only, and at that time, no smoked fish, unfortunately. I don't think the Laird location is re-opening as the Viking -- and I do hope I am wrong about that

                                                                    1. re: CocoaChanel
                                                                      hal2010 RE: CocoaChanel Aug 17, 2011 04:34 PM

                                                                      The guys at the Mazda dealership across the road tell me that that block will soon be a Hyundai dealership. There's a rezoning notice up.

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                                                                        foodyDudey RE: hal2010 Aug 17, 2011 04:35 PM

                                                                        That is basically correct. I knew that was going to happen soon after the fire but did not want to mention it here.

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