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Birthday Dinner-Upscale Chinese...Philippe, Mr. Chow, or somewhere else? HELP

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mbs Nov 16, 2009 06:43 AM

Taking my boyfriend out for his birthday. He loves Chinese food, so looking to try one of the more upscale Chinese places. Is it worth it to go to Mr. Chow or Philippe, or are there any other just as good or better places.
Thanks!

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Mr. Chow
121 Hudson Street, New York, NY 10013

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    Chandavkl Nov 16, 2009 01:46 PM

    If he really loves Chinese food, then Chinatown Brasserie is the obvious choice. But if you're talking about faux Chinese food, then some of the other places might be OK. However Mr. Chow and Phillippe are both engaged in a legalized form of, well I better not say it for fear of getting sued, but you surely will not get your money's worth there.

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    Chinatown Brasserie
    380 Lafayette St, New York, NY 10012

    Mr. Chow
    121 Hudson Street, New York, NY 10013

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      chowbie Nov 16, 2009 09:35 AM

      Have you considered Susur Lee's Shang? Upscale modern Chinese fusion-ish food in a very upscale room. Decadent cocktails. Check the boards on what to order--not all the dishes are hits, but the ones that are are very good.

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      Shang
      187 Orchard Street, New York, NY 10002

      1. Striver Nov 16, 2009 09:29 AM

        You might want to consider Mr. K's on Lex and 51st. I've only eaten there once as a guest of a friend - it's not my particular cup of tea at their price point, although I did find the experience entertaining and the food good but not great (like Shun Lee - pretty bland, IMO) .

        If it's expensive Chinese food in a high-end setting that you're looking for, it's another option for you to check out.

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        Mr. K's
        570 Lexington Avenue, New York, NY 10022

        1. thew Nov 16, 2009 07:11 AM

          shanghai pavillion on the UES

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            mbs Nov 16, 2009 07:15 AM

            What about Chin Chin?

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            Chin Chin
            216 E 49th St, New York, NY 10017

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              egit Nov 16, 2009 07:28 AM

              Argh! When I said Chiam, I meant Chin Chin.

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              Chin Chin
              216 E 49th St, New York, NY 10017

              Chiam
              160 E 48th St, New York, NY 10017

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                mbs Nov 16, 2009 07:35 AM

                Chiam looks good as well.....I prefer the UES or ME, so was thinking Shun Lee, Philippe, Chiam, Chin Chin??????????

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                Chin Chin
                216 E 49th St, New York, NY 10017

                Chiam
                160 E 48th St, New York, NY 10017

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                  bearmi Nov 16, 2009 08:22 AM

                  How is the food at Chiam compared with Chin Chin? I have only gone to Chin Chin but not Chiam. Are they similar in quality?

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                    mbs Nov 16, 2009 08:24 AM

                    I haven't been to either. How is Chin Chin? Is it a nice atmosphere? good food?

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                    Chin Chin
                    216 E 49th St, New York, NY 10017

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                      bearmi Nov 16, 2009 08:46 AM

                      Yes. It's got a nice atmosphere. I would say a lot of their customers are older non-Asians and looked well-to-do so the atmosphere matches with that clientele. In the back room, they tend to seat the younger folks and their non-regular customers so it's a little more casual (that's where I sat when I went last year.) The food is more Chinese American than "authentic/Chinatown-style" but I think it's well executed. If you and your boyfriend do not object to more Americanized Chinese cuisine, this place would be a safe bet.

                      Overall, I would say it's a more upscale version of PF Chang with much better quality food and more elegant decor. If I remember correctly, their portion size was pretty big so you won't feel shortchanged by their higher prices. Also, the service was very professional and the staff can speak English fluently so they are able to answer questions about the menu items.

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                        mbs Nov 16, 2009 08:49 AM

                        Thanks! Sounds just what I am looking for. And you would suggest this over Mr Chow and Philippe?

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                          bearmi Nov 16, 2009 08:58 AM

                          Sorry, I have never been to either Mr. Chow or Philippe so I can't say Chin Chin is absolutely better... but I am sure Chin Chin is cheaper than both places.

                          Btw, here is a recent thread on Mr. Chow... you may want to reconsider if you are still interested in visiting:

                          http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/659082

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                mbs Nov 16, 2009 07:16 AM

                What is the atmosphere like at Shanghai Pavillion?

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                  thew Nov 16, 2009 08:04 AM

                  basically nitrogen/oxygen

                  ok - i couldn;t resist.

                  it's nice. not overly formal, but definitely a step up from the average chinese in the area. quiet, not brightly lit, a nice place

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                    mbs Nov 16, 2009 08:05 AM

                    What do you mean

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                      thew Nov 16, 2009 12:28 PM

                      what do i mean by what? the 1st part is a joke, not a good joke, but a joke just the same - the atmosphere of earth is nitrogen with some oxygen in it.

                      the 2nd part seems self explanatory to me

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                sushiman Nov 16, 2009 07:05 AM

                Grand Sichuan or Chinatown Brassiere or even Shun Lee

                1. egit Nov 16, 2009 07:03 AM

                  Whatever you do, do NOT go to Mr. Chow. Do a search on this board for some entertaining reading.

                  Peking Duck House would probably be good. Or maybe Chiam in midtown.

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                  Peking Duck House
                  28 Mott St, New York, NY 10013

                  Mr. Chow
                  121 Hudson Street, New York, NY 10013

                  Chiam
                  160 E 48th St, New York, NY 10017

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