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synergy Nov 11, 2009 03:35 AM

Can't wait to return to one of our favorite places, the Marriott Camelback. It's been about 5 years since we've been. We also get to have our fill of mexican food during our visit, as the mex in NYC can't compare. We have 4 dinners to plan, one will be in Sedona. I welcome your suggestions. Here's what I am thinking of so far...We plan on returning to Barrio Cafe, Dick's Hideaway (since Richardson's is still closed?), Elote in Sedona (?), and we have 1 more night in Scottsdale/Phoenix. I am open to 'other than mexican'...have been to Bianco Pizza...Los Dos Sombreos (?)...am thinking of Roaring Fork(?)...and welcome suggestions. No asian, steakplaces, please. TIA

Dick's Hideaway
6008 N 16th St, Phoenix, AZ 85016

9580 W Flamingo Rd, Las Vegas, NV 89147

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    danieli10 Nov 11, 2009 05:11 AM

    The MIssion and NOCA, hands down. Try to hit Over Easy for breakfast, too.

    Over Easy
    4730 E Indian School Rd, Phoenix, AZ 85018

    1. silverbear Nov 11, 2009 07:58 AM

      Richardson's is still closed, although I expect it will reopen at some point.

      Los Dos Sombreros -- This sounds like an unintentional portmanteau of Los Sombreros and Los Dos Molinos. The former is a Mexican restaurant in southern Scottsdale. The latter is a New Mexican restaurant with locations in South Phoenix, Mesa, and the edge of Downtown Phoenix. Which of these were you inquiring about?

      The Mission and Noca are fine recommendations. Some others:

      Gallo Blanco -- Mexico City street food adapted for a restaurant atmosphere. The menu emphasizes basics but daily specials feature things like octopus and pork belly as taco fillings. In the ground floor of the Clarendon Hotel in Midtown Phoenix.

      Caffe Boa -- Use to be Italian with an east European influence. Now, a new chef originally known for his work at Digestif in Scottsdale is shaking things up with a farm-to-table menu that is hard to classify but generally delicious. Located in Downtown Tempe, just south of Scottsdale, and not to be confused with a restaurant with the same name in Ahwatukee (which may be perfectly good, but I've never been there).

      St. Francis -- Hard to classify, but fresh American food with an emphasis on items roasted in a wood-burning oven. A loving restoration of a mid-century building in Uptown Phoenix.

      3118 E. Camelback Rd, Phoenix, AZ 85016

      Gallo Blanco Cafe
      401 W Clarendon Avenue, Phoenix, AZ 85013

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      1. re: silverbear
        synergy Nov 11, 2009 10:10 AM

        Silverbear, I am laughing at myself. Yes, I merged the name of 2 different mexican restaurants. I meant to say that we have been to Los Sombreros before, not Los Dos Molinos.

        1. re: synergy
          silverbear Nov 11, 2009 11:47 AM

          You're ahead of me on Los Sombreros. I've never been there.

          As for Los Dos Molinos, I've been to all three location in the Phoenix Metro Area. It's a Phoenix institution, but not everyone likes it. The food is hearty, fiery, and a bit pricey. They're also very rigid about things like substitutions. On the other hand, I've had some really delicious meals there. I don't know if I'd recommend going out of your way to eat there, but it might be worthwhile if you are near one of the locations for some other reason.

          1. re: silverbear
            hohokam Nov 11, 2009 12:04 PM

            ...and at this time of year, one is likely to have to endure a wait of Bianquian (Bianco-ish? Bianconian?) proportions at the South Phoenix Los Dos location.

            1. re: hohokam
              silverbear Nov 11, 2009 01:52 PM

              Another reason why I prefer the location on Washington St. just east of Downtown. I'm amazed that so many people trek down to Central & Dobbins when the same food is served more centrally without a long wait, but if it keeps Washington St. less crowded for me, I guess that's a good outcome.

              Los Dos Molinos
              8646 S Central Ave, Phoenix, AZ 85042

              Los Dos Molinos
              1010 E Washington St, Phoenix, AZ 85034

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        synergy Nov 11, 2009 10:17 AM

        We also go to Tee Pee for mex as we've been going there for years. I love their mexican pizza and they also have a great vegetarian dish.

        Any comments about Roaring Fork?

        Please keep the suggestions coming...doesn't have to be fancy, just good food.


        Roaring Fork
        4800 N. Scottsdale Road, Scottsdale, AZ 85251

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        1. re: synergy
          crsin Nov 11, 2009 11:05 AM

          By "Marriot Camelback" are you referring to Camelback Inn?

          I would definitely skip Roaring Fork. Any of the recommendations made so far would be much better.

          I'd also suggest Petite Maison (French--not sure if this is what you're looking for, coming from NY), Cowboy Ciao, and Rancho Pinot (food can be described as American with some Southwestern and Italian touches). The Mission and Dick's are also great options/suggestion.

          Note that, although Richardson's is still closed, I believe that Rokerij is actually serving Richardson's full menu (you might want to call first to verify if they're still doing this), and there's also some overlap between the menus at Richardson's and Dick's.

          Cowboy Ciao
          7133 East Stetson Drive, Scottsdale, AZ 85251

          Roaring Fork
          4800 N. Scottsdale Road, Scottsdale, AZ 85251

          6335 N 16th St, Phoenix, AZ 85016

          1. re: crsin
            fledflew Nov 11, 2009 11:25 AM

            Wholeheartedly agree with crsin - skip Roaring Fork. I want to like it, but it's been totally unremarkable the past couple years.

            Roaring Fork
            4800 N. Scottsdale Road, Scottsdale, AZ 85251

            1. re: fledflew
              Phoenix99 Nov 11, 2009 02:46 PM

              It has not been the same since Robert McGrath left. It's basically a corporate restaurant now owned and operated by the same people who own Eddie V's and Wildfish.

              I have heard good things about BLT Steak which replaced the main dining room at the Camelback Inn.

            2. re: crsin
              synergy Nov 11, 2009 02:34 PM

              Yes, the Marriott Camelback Inn. We love it there & it's great as my husband racks up points since he travels so much.

              When I learned that Richardson's had a fire & that Rokerij is serving their menu, I looked. It didn't look anything like Richardson's menu (we've been there 3 times). Then when I looked at the menu for Dick's Hideaway it was exactly the Richardson's menu I remembered.

              I looked at the Chowboy Ciao menu...I don't eat red meat & didn't see much fish offered...

              1. re: synergy
                johnseberg Nov 11, 2009 03:02 PM

                When I went to Rokerij on Sunday 11/1, I overheard that they were serving Richardson's menu. I ordered the fish trio from the blackboard, which was just like something I've had at Richardson's a dozen times. This is the only time I've been to Rokerij. It was late afternoon, and the place was almost empty. I was happy with my entree, but, the ceviche appetizer was more like chips and salsa - not what I'd expected.

                6335 N 16th St, Phoenix, AZ 85016

                1. re: synergy
                  crsin Nov 11, 2009 03:29 PM

                  Did you ask specifically if Rokerij is offering the Richardson's menu? If you're just comparing online menus, I don't think that's going to tell you much. I'm under the impression that they're offering the menu if you eat there and ask for it, not that they in any way integrated the two menus together. Last time I was at Dick's I believe a sign was posted saying they were offering the Richardson's menu at Rokerij (i.e., in addition to the normal Rokerij menu). I'd suggest calling and asking if you're interested. But if you're happy with the offerings at Dick's, it's a moot point...

                  Would you mind clarifying if you eat everything but red meat, or only fish?

                  6335 N 16th St, Phoenix, AZ 85016

                  1. re: crsin
                    synergy Nov 12, 2009 01:03 AM

                    Thanks so much for all the updates.

                    I only eat fish and fowl...my husband eats any and everything. :-)

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              Beach Chick Nov 11, 2009 10:35 AM

              We were in Phoenix last month and we had 2 great meals..
              Lon's at the Hermosa and T.Cooks at the Royal Palms...both were exquisite.
              For Sedona, we really enjoy Cafe Elote for dinner.. for lunch, we love dining at Yavapai at the stunning Enchantment Resort...Garland's Lodge is next on our list.
              For Mex, I used to love the Tee Pee but it's been many years..Caroline's is a dive near the airport but good and cheap.


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              1. re: Beach Chick
                AllPhoenix Nov 11, 2009 11:59 AM

                I think you're referring to Carolina's, and that would be my first choice for mexican. No waiter service like Tee Pee, but the food is much better. There's a location closer to the Marriott at Cave Creek and Cactus.

                1. re: AllPhoenix
                  Beach Chick Nov 11, 2009 12:41 PM

                  Yes, Carolina's..thanks AllPhoenix!
                  Havent' been to the Carolina's on Cactus..next trip..

                  1. re: Beach Chick
                    Phoenix99 Nov 11, 2009 02:49 PM

                    Lon's is a great recommendation. Agree on Carolina's but as I often point out, the Cave Creek location just doesn't have the dive atmosphere of the original. It's very comfortable and I actually think the food is just a bit better but going to the original Carolina's is an adventure you will talk about when you get home.

                    Cave Creek Cafe
                    15202 N 19th Ave, Phoenix, AZ 85023

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