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  <id>666089</id>
  <title>Korean BBQ in Montreal [split from Restaurant Openings 2009]</title>
  <published_at>Tue Nov 10 10:45:57 -0800 2009</published_at>
  <post_count>21</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>22</id>
    <name>Quebec (including Montreal)</name>
  </board>
  <posts>
    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>5168476</id>
        <content>i really hope that this is a "real" korean bbq that i'm used to in los angeles, where grill is built into the table itself and the main dishes are orders of raw meat where you cook it yourself. not that i have anything against the more homey style korean bbq of other respectable korean restaurants, but it just can't compare.</content>
        <published_at>Mon Nov 09 16:24:50 -0800 2009</published_at>
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        <user>
          <id>1113414</id>
          <name>sharkbait88</name>
        </user>
      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5168568</id>
      <content>We already have that here, you know. Maison Bulgogi and the place on Cavendish who's name escapes me right now have built-in grills and other places will bring portable grills to your table. In fact I can't think of one Korean place in town that doesn't do one or the other. What places have you been to?</content>
      <published_at>Mon Nov 09 16:54:41 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5168476</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>18488</id>
        <name>SnackHappy</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5168633</id>
      <content>i've only been to manna, but the one time i looked into maison bulgogi, not a grill in sight.  manna didn't have a raw "cook yourself" meat option. but then again, haven't been to another korean place since manna.
i'm referring more to places that are exlusively korean bbq, where they only have about 4 main menu items, and they are usually a variation of raw pork, different cuts of beef, or steak, in increasing quantities and usually accompanied by a soup, rice, rice wraps, plates of salad and the typical side dishes.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Nov 09 17:11:35 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5168568</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1113414</id>
        <name>sharkbait88</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>5170139</id>
      <content>At Maison Bulgogi they have grills built into the tables. When not in use they are covered with large metal pizza-pan looking sheets. They have a meal for two option on their menu that comes with raw beef, pork, and chicken, if I remember correctly, and it is cooked at the table.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 10 09:37:39 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5168633</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>48563</id>
        <name>mainsqueeze</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>5170716</id>
      <content>o really!? i've only glanced in while i walk past, but if thats true, i definitely have to go and give it a try :) i just never saw this on the menu that they have posted in the window, so i assumed that they didn't offer it.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 10 12:43:52 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5170139</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1113414</id>
        <name>sharkbait88</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>5171648</id>
      <content>I've ordered it so unless they changed their menu I'm certain they have it. Enjoy.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 10 19:32:06 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5170716</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>48563</id>
        <name>mainsqueeze</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5168909</id>
      <content>Given the neighbourhood, the tiny premises, the owner's modest investment (I've spoken with him - very nice young man) and the prices: sandwichs; $4; salads 6 to 8$, "meals" 6 to 9$, somehow I very much doubt that. Why do you put real in quotes? 

The photos show cooked, artfully (but simply) assembled food. Isn't that a valid style of Korean eating? (I'll ask moh). 

I suppose there are far more Koreans in Los Angeles, or Vancouver, but we are in Montr&#233;al. </content>
      <published_at>Mon Nov 09 19:12:39 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5168476</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>84119</id>
        <name>lagatta</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5168944</id>
      <content>i'm sorry, didn't mean to offend, but i just meant "real" as more concentrated on the bbq aspect of korean food. where i'm from, most korean restaurants are focused on one area of korean food, due to the larger population of korean people, like there will be one restaurant that sells a variety of only stone pot rice dishes, or one that will only sell the soups, and restaurants that only specialize in korean bbq, where they have full on bbq "service" etc.  
if you look at my previous post, i remarked that most of the korean restaurants here serve more of "home style" korean food, in a way that my mom would make at home for dinner, and of which i have nothing against, but i'm just missing some of that specialized korean food that i'm used to from back home, and was just hoping that maybe the korean place you were mentioning may have been like that, as more and more korean restos are popping up, my hopes are high on an increase/improvement/variance of korean food.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Nov 09 19:28:24 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5168909</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1113414</id>
        <name>sharkbait88</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>5171989</id>
      <content>Korean restos are not a specialty of Montreal. We don't really have the population base to support these kind of places, and the Quebecois population is only starting to become acquainted with Korean cuisine. For what it is worth, there has been a relative boom in the number of Korean places opening up in Montreal, and the scene has improved significantly. 

For the specialized BBQ places that you refer to, your best closest bet would be in TO. 

Here in Montreal, many places will offer the "Cook it yourself" version of Korean BBQ, you just might have to order a minimum amount of meat for them to crack out the BBQ pans for the table. But there are no exclusive BBQ restaurants, all the restaurants will offer other dishes as well as the BBQ dish. You just have to step into the resto and peruse the menu, and perhaps make a few enquiries to see if they offer roughly what you want. I don't think you will find something quite like the BBQ places they offer in cities like LA and NYC. YOu will find something similar, but it won't be full on BBQ service. </content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 10 23:35:55 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5168944</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>89969</id>
        <name>moh</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>5172337</id>
      <content>thanks moh :) i guess i'll just have to wait until i go back home for some of that korean bbq goodness i've been missing.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 11 06:38:12 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5171989</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1113414</id>
        <name>sharkbait88</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5170352</id>
      <content>This thread contains some posts about Korean BBQ that we split off from the general Restaurant Openings 2009 thread. The original post that inspired this discussion is here:

http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/584457#5168136</content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 10 10:50:04 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5168476</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>2</id>
        <name>The Chowhound Team</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5171062</id>
      <content>sharkbait's reply was to a post I wrote about a tiny place in my neighbourhood that bills itself as "bbq cor&#233;en": 

A new Korean barbecue place has opened near Beaubien and St-Laurent:

Hiko Sun: bbq cor&#233;en

57, rue Beaubien E. 
coin St-Dominique. (one street east of St-Laurent)

phone: 514.564.4888

This is in the small space formerly occupied by Pizza Tibet Libre; it is next to Itacate Mexican resto.

They have :

Sandwiches, salads, and "repas" (meals, but meaning main dishes).

Prices are not high, though might be small plates. Full licence.

No website as of yet. Their flyer only mentions the hours for delivery, not the opening hours. Delivery hours are: Mon-Fri: 11 am - 9 pm
Saturday: 5 pm - 9 pm

I'll pass by and check the restaurant hours. Sounds like they are closed on Sundays.

By the way, I happened to cycle past Miga, a Korean restaurant on Rachel some people have written about and saw that they are a byow now.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 10 14:45:40 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5168476</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>84119</id>
        <name>lagatta</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5171245</id>
      <content>sorry for hijacking your post :/</content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 10 16:19:45 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5171062</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1113414</id>
        <name>sharkbait88</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5171521</id>
      <content>There's a Korean BBQ place at Snowdon metro, near the Kanda there. I forget what it's called. It was alright, last I went there. It was all you can eat, and about the typical price for those places. The meal came out to about 21 or so per person, with "all you can drink" crysanthemum tea.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 10 18:28:28 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5168476</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>202962</id>
        <name>xIcewind</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5172187</id>
      <content>Try Chez Hwang on Upper Lachine Road they have 4 grill tables and I find the food always good and fresh.They also have Bulgogi and Kalbi  lunch Bento Boxes that are teriffic when you have little time.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 11 05:18:10 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5168476</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>174162</id>
        <name>finefoodie55</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5175553</id>
      <content>I agree, I like Chez Hwang as a Korean restaurant and they have an all you can eat Korean BBQ if you have 5 or 6 people for $18/person. You can eat as much bulgogi, samgyupsal and chadoelbaegi. It also comes with sliced garlic, lettuce, samjang, dwengjang jigae, rice and all the side dishes. This is a real steal and delish! Make reservations for this.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Nov 12 08:28:55 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5172187</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1116336</id>
        <name>yumyum123</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>5175725</id>
      <content>o wow! that sounds really good!</content>
      <published_at>Thu Nov 12 09:15:18 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5175553</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1113414</id>
        <name>sharkbait88</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>5192628</id>
      <content>I have to disagree with you about Chez Hwang.  I live nearby and have been there more than I'd care to admit for the convenience factor, but haven't been in a long time because they keep underwhelming me with weak kimchi and dishes that are monotone in color and flavor. Their BBQ is good, but I haven't been impressed by anything else I've had there. Their bibimbap is just terrible-- mostly limp, shredded napa and no gochujang. In my eyes, if they don't care enough to use fresh veggies, serve edible kimchi, and put gochujang on their bibimbap, then they don't deserve my business...</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 18 15:41:06 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5175553</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>253988</id>
        <name>TheLibrarian</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5192464</id>
      <content>5000 Years has an odd name for a restaurant but it is by far the best Korean in town. Much better than Maison du Bulgogi downtown, with a nice selection of soups, ribs, bimbap etc. 3441 St. Denis and usually open late. The service is lovely and charming.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 18 14:30:42 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5168476</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1125650</id>
        <name>db050870</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5192636</id>
      <content>I love this place! Haven't been to the one on St. Denis, but have been 3x in the last month to the one in the Concordia Ghetto--on Ste. Catherine near the AMC Forum. Highlights: great, HUGE servings of kimchi chigae, delicious bbq and kimchi (though it doesn't come gratis) and excellent seafood pajeon. </content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 18 15:44:37 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5192464</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>253988</id>
        <name>TheLibrarian</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5202072</id>
      <content>I like 5000 Ans, but i would disagree with you that is is much better than Maison Bulgogi. There are strengths to each place. I like the atmosphere of the St. Denis 5000 Ans, and I like their soondubu very much, although on a recent visit, it was not as transcendent as it has been in the past. We had the Kalbi (Beef ribs cooked at the table), and it was very good, but a little one-dimensional in flavour, I've had much more complexly flavoured kalbi before. But the meat quality was excellent, the meat was nice and succulent. The Seafood pancake (Pa jon) was excellent, different in style from the one at Maison Bulgogi. but still very delicious! I am always disappointed by the kimchi at 5000 Ans, I wish they would let it ripen much more. They serve it much too fresh for my tastes, if they left it a few more weeks, it would be much better. You can see that the kimchi has potential, it is infanticide to eat it at this stage. And it does bug me that they charge you for kimchi, that just seems wrong. 

The meal we had at 5000 Ans was very good, and I like to go there. But I will still go to Maison Bulgogi more often, the kimchi is better, their cooked kimchi dishes are fabulous, especially the pork/kimchi saute over the soft tofu - wow, that is a killer dish! I also love their pa jon, and their pork-neck bone soup, and I like the general flavouring of the dishes there. The place has absolutely no atmosphere, but the food is well-flavoured. They know how to cook, that's for sure...</content>
      <published_at>Mon Nov 23 07:56:32 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5192464</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>89969</id>
        <name>moh</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5202399</id>
      <content>I've heard that Korean restos often use kiwi as a meat tenderizer, does anyone know off-hand if this holds true for any of the places mentioned? I'm seriously allergic to it, so I have to be hyper-vigilant about asking...</content>
      <published_at>Mon Nov 23 09:44:14 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5168476</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>167296</id>
        <name>devilishlyj</name>
      </user>
    </post>
  </posts>
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