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Where is the Best Onion Soup?

OneMoreBite Nov 9, 2009 01:51 PM

Sorry if this is redundant but I searched past posts & couldn't find the answer. I am looking for a place where we could walk in without a reservation and order a light dinner-perhaps just onion soup & a glass of wine. I'm sure there are many opinions about who makes the very best traditional onion soup in Paris, but if I could find one really, really good one . . . you know, the kind that tastes of the deep complexity of the meat stock, the high quality slowwww simmered onions, the good bread, the realllly good cheese gooey on top, not so salty that my hands & feet puff up like a blowfish afterward. Mmmmmmm . . . So maybe not necessarily the very best in Paris (since I'm looking for a casual situation), but maybe one of the best? One of the pleasures of visiting in the off season on a cold autumn evening!

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    jwurz RE: OneMoreBite Jan 23, 2010 08:57 AM

    Which place has the best onion soup - casual or not?

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      souphie RE: jwurz Jan 23, 2010 11:07 AM

      I have no idea but I have to ask: where did you guys get that onion soup idea? Who actually already had one that was really good? Where? When? I like OneMoreBite's description but it mostly feels like the good feeling of a warm soup in a warm winter: the critical thing is that you walked in the cold for hours before.

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        Parigi RE: souphie Jan 23, 2010 12:12 PM

        O comeon, Soup, it must exist. Must have existed once. Must exist in its Plantoniic onion-soupness state, which means somewhere in France it must be there screaming: "bite me!"

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          PhilD RE: Parigi Jan 23, 2010 01:36 PM

          My partner loves a good onion soup, but it isn't a standard restaurant dish these days. We tend to happen across it by chance every now and then. I suspect it is now a characterture dish, that sits along side bike riding, beret wearing men in striped jumpers with strings of onions around their necks. More common in French themed bistros in other countries than in France itself.

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          jwurz RE: souphie Jan 23, 2010 01:47 PM

          This one on Simon's blog looks delicious. Souphie - how is the restaurant?


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            Jake Dear RE: jwurz Jan 23, 2010 02:53 PM

            It looks good, yes, but the link’s written review says it tasted like soap. (“Le Pied de Cochon” -- ouch! -- I though this was one of the things LPC does well.)

            I posted a similar question about a week ago ( http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/680690 ), and this reminds me that I’m still hoping for a current real recommendation for Gratinée/ onion soup. We get good onion soup near my office in San Francisco (at “Bistro Clovis”), and I’d hope to be able to have at least that good when we’re in wintry Paris . . . .


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              souphie RE: Jake Dear Jan 23, 2010 10:08 PM

              I'm not sure that's possible -- let me try Bistrot Clovis when I'm in town.

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                Jake Dear RE: souphie Jan 24, 2010 03:34 PM

                Souphie, when you are in San Francisco, let me know. Bistro Colvis also has the best (and properly carmelized) tarte tartin I've even had -- much better than any we've had in France. As they make the dish, it takes 20 minutes, and so it's often ordered at the start of the meal . . . .


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                  souphie RE: Jake Dear Jan 25, 2010 01:58 AM

                  Sounds great. Writing it down. Will be early March.

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                    Jake Dear RE: souphie Jan 25, 2010 05:40 PM

                    Souphie, if it’s “written down,” it must be real. Great – I’ll send you an email. Recall, I said the onion soup/ Gratinée at Bistro Clovis is “good”; I don’t promise more than that. But the caramelized tarte tatin – that, I’m confident, should be superb -- at least it was the last ten times I had it there.


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        tortoiseshell RE: OneMoreBite Jan 24, 2010 08:32 AM

        The best onion soup I've ever had-- and it is awesome, like you describe it-- was at the Savoy in Raleigh, NC. I have yet to find anything here in Paris that comes close (it's definitely not to be found at Au Pied du Cochon).

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          John Talbott RE: tortoiseshell Jan 24, 2010 11:27 AM

          Jeez. I make a mean one but the best I've had was not near Les Halles at Le Pied de Cochon but in Sai Gon (I went to Le Pied de Cochon after an article, not by Joe Ray whom I respect, but someone else and it was blah). I'm not sure there is a place anymore for one here. That's 1950's stuff.

          John Talbott

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            Parigi RE: John Talbott Jan 26, 2010 03:25 AM

            "the best I've had was not near Les Halles at Le Pied de Cochon but in Sai Gon"

            Makes sense.
            South Asians sure "get" broth.
            (But they sure don't "get" cheese, and onion soup is all about b+c, no?)

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              souphie RE: Parigi Jan 26, 2010 05:27 AM

              Do you really need to "get" cheese to add it on top a broth?

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                tmso RE: souphie Jan 26, 2010 05:52 AM

                I suppose you could "make" the cheese, but that sounds more difficult.

        2. John Talbott RE: OneMoreBite Jan 26, 2010 08:36 AM

          Well, I stumbled on the best onion soup grantinee I've had since they pulled Les Halles down. It was at the 5 1/2 month old place Chez Grenouille in the 9th that only Pudlo and Astrid T'Serclaes TMK have tumbled onto. It cost all of 5 Euros and was on the "menu" today so no guarantees they'll have it tmrw. No dishwater thin, yucky bread, stupid cheese stuff; this was the real thing. Who'uld'have thunk it, and in the midst of theaterland. The rest of the (meat) meal was equal to it. Full report at http://johntalbottsparis.typepad.com/...

          John Talbott

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            Jake Dear RE: John Talbott Jan 26, 2010 11:35 AM

            John, many thanks! Just in time for us -- we'll call before we go there to confirm that they still have Gratinée on the menu . . . .


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              John Talbott RE: Jake Dear Jan 26, 2010 11:39 AM

              Even without it, the place is cool and undiscovered, friendly and all locals.

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                Jake Dear RE: John Talbott Jan 26, 2010 11:59 AM

                Yup, it's on our short list in any event. (And it also sounds like the kind of place where I can find my other wintry pursuit: tripes a la mode de Caen.) -- Jake

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                  John Talbott RE: Jake Dear Jan 27, 2010 11:21 AM

                  Well, Madame explained it was not exactly Caenoise but a very old recipe (Jadis sort of stuff).

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