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Nov 8, 2009 11:34 AM

Good pizza, tonight, below 59th Street, where we can not feel rushed?

My brother-in-law and his wife are here this weekend from the Dominican Republic, and would like to go out for pizza tonight. (I've promised to take them to Di Fara on their next trip.) I've done a lot of reading about Co. vs. Keste, John's vs. Arturo's, etc. but am not sure where to go with them. I was at Keste for the first time this week with my sister, and enjoyed both the Margarita and the prosciutto and argula pizzas - I don't mind the soggy tip. But, from what I've read, it looks like we might be hurried along at both Keste and Co., and we'd like to enjoy lots of wine and not feel rushed.

I'm pretty sure that they don't really distinguish between New York style, Neapolitan, Sicilian, etc. and I'm not picky though I enjoy a thinish crispy crust.

Thanks for any quick tips - I just don't go out for pizza enough to make an informed choice. Oh, and would rather not face a v. long wait - we'll probably go around 6:30 ish.

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  1. Have you considered Otto. We liked the pizza over there. Plus, the wine list is very robust.

    1. MMRuth, I haven't been to Co. or Keste, and I actually like John's, which I guess isn't so popular with at least some 'hounds. SO, fwiw, one possibility would be Angelo's Pizza. I've only been to the W 57th location across from Carnegie Hall. Please confirm that they are open Sundays. If they are, I would think it shouldn't be so crowded. I don't believe they take reservations, though, so you would have to take your chances. The pizza's good, but I wouldn't consider it a *destination* place. If that's what you want, Angelo's probably isn't it. But if you just want decent pies without a scene, it could work.

      Angelo's Pizza
      117 W 57th St, New York, NY 10019

      1. At that hour you probably won't be rushed anywhere. Agree that Otto is great and has other nice selections - pastas, cheese tray. Also, I love Pasita in Chelsea/Village. Adorable small spot with limited choices but excellent pizza.

        47 8th Ave, New York, NY 10014

        1. Motorino East Village, surprisingly, doesn't rush you out. We actually lingered quite long a few days ago. I think we were there for nearly 1.5 hrs. And they also had plenty of empty seats later on in the evening.

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          1. re: kathryn

            Thanks for all of the suggestions. We met up at Keste, but they had put their name down and waited on line for a bit, and were put off the by the attitude of the host (they are also not used to not being seated until the entire party is there, so I completely understand). There was a big line at John's, so we headed over to Arturo's, which turned out to be exactly what my brother-in-law was looking for. We shared a side of meatballs, a cheese pie, and one with green peppers, onions and black olives. A couple of glasses of wine. Some live music in the front room. We finished up with shakes at Shake Shack, so, a great evening.

            Shake Shack
            Madison Ave and E 23rd St, New York, NY 10010

            1. re: MMRuth

              Good to hear Arturo's hit the spot...I for one am getting a little tired of the haute-neopolitan pizza scene so I'm glad to hear some of the old school places are still cranking out a decent pie.

              1. re: Scotty100

                Definitely agree with getting tired of the scene to eat pizza (not that I am much of a fan of any other kind of scene). Will have to check out Arturo's next time I'm in the area.

                1. re: Scotty100

                  Yeah, the breathless hype over pizza is a little annoying... but I do like the good pies. Last night DGF and I tried to go to Motorino but there was a wait and we were starving. Found a very credible pie right around the corner at Luzzo's. The enter of the pie was a little soggy and required a knife and fork, but overall it was very good. Will still go to Motorino when there's no wait, or I don't mind waiting a bit.

                  But Luzzo's is a place that's not very high profile at the moment.

                  211 1st Ave, New York, NY 10003

                  1. re: egit

                    I feel like Luzzo's has too quick a hand with their pizza and pulls it out a few seconds early. The pies are often too blonde and center underdone, not soggy but rawish.

                    211 1st Ave, New York, NY 10003

                    1. re: ESNY

                      Ditto -- I've had the pie a bunch of times over the last few years, and it can sometimes be underdone. Also I feel like their crust lacks salt and flavor in comparison to other places. It's good and handy as an alternative to, say, Motorino, but I wouldn't go out of my way for it.

              2. re: kathryn

                I second the Motorino rec. Very warm and friendly service, and little to no wait at that hour. I'm no expert and have only dined there once, but Motorino blew some of the other mentioned competitors out of the water.

              3. Based on another Chow post, we tried La Pizza Fresca at 31 East 20th - - this weekend - the food was great - the pizza was terrific, the butternut squash risotto was delicious, and the salad was great too. Huge wine list. And they take reservations for parties over 5 people.

                La Pizza Fresca
                31 E 20th St, New York, NY 10003