665608 Sun Nov 08 12:33:46 -0800 2009 7 34 Wine 0 5165293 has anyone ever heard of a Russian wine( red semi-sweet) called Aoktop and if so where to find in NY. Sun Nov 08 12:33:46 -0800 2009 1122776 gottoblast 1 5165415 Have not heard of it. A place called Empire Wine in Albany has a bunch of wine from Moldova and the Ukraine. PJ Wine in New York has one kind of wine from Moldova. Those might be good places to start. Locally, we had a Russian/eastern European deli that carried Russian and eastern European wine. It closed by the way, so I can't check for you. Sun Nov 08 13:46:38 -0800 2009 5165293 11117 SteveTimko 2 5166667 Thank you a lot, Moldova and Ukraine are supposedly the region it came from so you are correct and close. Mon Nov 09 06:41:00 -0800 2009 5165415 1122776 gottoblast 3 5167077 Bostavan Yephbin Aoktop - Moldova Called Doktor or Black Doktor. Aoktop = Doktor Winery -- Vinaria Bostavan -- website: http://www.bostavan.md/eng/main.html Email: bostavan@bostavan.md USA importer: BGA INTERNATIONAL INC. 1727 SHEEPSHEAD BAY RD 2ND FL BROOKLYN NY 11235 USA Phone 917-945-3734 Customer Service: 917-476-8903 Email: bga2001@hotmail.com Mon Nov 09 09:07:13 -0800 2009 5166667 18222 maria lorraine 4 5168437 http://www.wine-searcher.com/find/vinaria+bostavan+black+doctor http://www.ultimatewineshop.com/r/items/vinaria-bostavan-black-doktor?utm_source=Shopzilla&utm_medium=Feed Mon Nov 09 16:06:40 -0800 2009 5167077 18222 maria lorraine 1 5166462 According to WineSearcherPro, that wine is not available in the US (assuming the spelling is correct). www.wine-searcher.com Mon Nov 09 03:56:09 -0800 2009 5165293 14951 Tir_na_nOg 1 5168563 The source of confusion is that some letters in the Cyrillic and Roman alphabets look similar, but represent different sounds. The wine is "Black Doctor," which is "Chyerniy Doktor" in Russian. Using the Cyrillic alphabet, that becomes "Черный Доктор." And Doktor - Доктор - looks a lot like, but is very different than, Aoktop. Habits ingrained by the alphabet you use may actually be harder to break than those attributable to language. So cognates and other words that should make intuitive sense, well, don't. When we were in Russia, it took a while before a friend of mine twigged to the fact that "ресторан" is pronounced "restoran," not "pectopah." Once he did, it was far easier for him to find a meal. Mon Nov 09 16:53:27 -0800 2009 5165293 58743 alanbarnes 1 5198175 Using "Black Doctor" (or "Black Doktor") in WineSearcherPro as the spelling, it turns out that Empire Wine in Albany carries this wine: http://www.empirewine.com/wine/bostavan-black-doktor-red/ Enjoy! Sat Nov 21 08:00:35 -0800 2009 5165293 14951 Tir_na_nOg