665590 Sun Nov 08 11:07:17 -0800 2009 17 2 Los Angeles Area 0 5165171 Hi Hounds, I must not be searching correctly, but I can't seem to find much on great lunch spots within walking distance of the Convention Center (and Staples Center). Heading down for a 4 day event and would rather die than eat the pre-made salads and wraps available at the convention. Would love to try some hole-in-the-wall places nearby with any types of food but the more homemade tasting the better. Love love love homemade soups and sandwiches, ANY and ALL ethnic foods, but not much of a fan of Panda Express or other chain restaurants. Any price category and any cleanliness category (dives not a problem!) is fine. Also, any breakfast recs on the walk from Pershing Square area to the Convention Center? As another bonus, any suggestions on where to take a client out for dinner would be great, too. We could cab it if best recommendations are a distance away. Since there will be 5 of us, we'll have different tastes so maybe a place that's nice with a variety of good dishes would be great. Thanks in advance! Sun Nov 08 11:07:17 -0800 2009 274428 bluemtn43 1 5165192 My favorite made to order, usually healthy sandwiches along with some good salads is at Mendocino Farms which is easier to find if you look for the Omni Hotel cause Mendocino Farms is underneath it. Sun Nov 08 11:17:32 -0800 2009 5165171 10864 sel 1 5165323 Walking your options are somewhat limited. The best bets are probably Arnie Morton's (great burger), the Farm of Beverly Hills (American at L.A. Live), Magnolia (American), the Palm (steaks and chops), Rivera (Latin/New Mexican), Roy's (Hawaiian) and Zucca (Italian). The Pantry (and its overpriced sibling, Riordan's Tavern) is close by and is an institution but I am not a fan of the food. A short cab ride opens up more options, including the wonders of Chichen Itza (Yucatan Mexican) and Mo-Chica (Peruvian) to the South or, to the West, the various pleasures of Koreatown (including, in addition to the obvious Korean choices, excellent Oaxacan at Guelaguetza and good Greek at Papa Cristos) and to the East a great array of Japanese places in Little Tokyo or, further East, Boyle Heights (for more Mexican including the myriad moles of Moles La Tia and the seafood delights of La Serenata de Garibaldi). Sun Nov 08 12:51:40 -0800 2009 5165171 10728 New Trial 1 5165330 Hmm. The tricky thing about the Convention Center is that there's really NOTHING that's an easy walk. The LA-LIVE mall has some dining options, if you don't mind hanging out in a concrete bunker liberally adorned with garish, flashing advertisements. The Pantry Cafe is walking distance. The real question is how much time you'll have; if you have enough, then you can easily use public transportation (DASH) or a healthy walk to open up additional options. As for a client dinner, there are lots of choices. Roy's Hawaiian (8th & Figueroa), Chaya Downtown and Drago Centro (both @ 5th & Flower) all fit the bill. There are a couple of steakhouses (The Palm, Arnie Morton's) which lend themselves to client dinners. If seafood is your thing, there's the Water Grill. All of these probably require a cab; they're walkable from the convention center, depending on how much walking you want to do. Only Roy's can be reached in under 20 minutes, I suspect. Sun Nov 08 12:54:57 -0800 2009 5165171 11553 Jack Flash 2 5167087 I spent a week in March at Staples/Convention Center, and we actually found the Farm and the Lawry's Carvery to be the best bets in LA Live. (I believe there is now a Wolfgang Puck casual restaurant that would be good for salads.) We also did a walk to El Parian on Pico, which is a hole-in-the-wall known for its great asada and birria tacos. It actually is only about five blocks from the Pico/Cherry (the southwest corner of the Convention Center), but it is a very run-down set of blocks and I would only walk that stretch in a group. On client dinners, Roy's, Arnie Morton's, The Palm, and Rivera are all within easy walking distance, though it will be dark early and you should only walk in a group. We walked to Roy's (which is only a half-block closer than Arnie Morton's) in about 10 minutes. The Palm and Rivera are south of Olympic and one block east of Staples Center, off Chick Hearn/11th St.. You should be able to walk there in about 5 minutes. Edited: With the exception of El Parian, none of the links are correct. Mon Nov 09 09:11:05 -0800 2009 5165330 10568 Jwsel 1 5165407 All within reasonable walking distance of the Convention Center: Mai Super Taco 633 S Spring St Good carnitas and quesadillas La Torta Loca 855 Santee St. Tortas and grilled burritos are highlights El Cihualteco Taqueria 7313 S Broadway Get the lengua burritos and wash it down with the horchata Sun Nov 08 13:42:54 -0800 2009 5165171 11583 ipsedixit 1 5167135 I see a lot of conventioneers eating breakfast at The Original Pantry, good hearty American style breakfast, get the grilled sour dough toast. Kind of American diner cuisine, that homemade taste you're looking for. About a three block walk from the convention center. Open 24/7 Menu http://www.pantrycafe.com/to-go-menu.pdf Mon Nov 09 09:27:12 -0800 2009 5165171 11914 monku 1 5172391 Hi again LA Hounders, Thanks so much to all for the wonderful suggestions! Don't know where the time goes at these conventions, but I did manage to make it to some of these great places. Needed to rent a car for a day trip to visit with a client, so was able to make it to Chichen Itza - mmmMMmmm that's my kind of place! Had Sopa de Lima which was great, although could have used more lime (and in fact we asked for and added more lime juice), a panucho (I could have eaten a bazillion of those!) and Poc Chuc and my colleague had pollo asado. The flavors were wonderful and the price was great! Then today at lunch I ran over to The Farm in LA Live for an Ahi tare tare tower and roasted beet salad - also very good. I didn't manage to make it out without a brownie and a couple of mini-farmeos. This evening we took a client to the Water Grill, and although very expensive and small portions, our meals were tasty and the client had a great time - which is the point, right? I had the salad with pumpkin and for the main course I ordered the monkfish, and the blueberry marscapone cake for dessert. All yummy! Breakfast was included in our hotel stay, so turned out (fortunately or unfortunately) I didn't get a chance to try the Pantry. Hoping to try a lengua burrito for lunch today and then we're heading home. I'll definitely need to leave time on the next trip for Mendocino Farms and Koreatown and Little Tokyo and and and... Thanks again for all the tips! Wed Nov 11 07:01:27 -0800 2009 5165171 274428 bluemtn43 2 5172569 Glad to hear that your trip was a success at least from a culinary standpoint; I hope it was a similar story business-wise. Wed Nov 11 08:06:02 -0800 2009 5172391 11553 Jack Flash 2 5172853 Just remember that Mendocino Farms is only open for lunch. Wed Nov 11 09:39:35 -0800 2009 5172391 250852 taiwanesesmalleats 2 5175647 Trust me, you're not missing anything if you don't make it to the Pantry. Not that good. Thu Nov 12 08:52:23 -0800 2009 5172391 90755 Phurstluv 3 5176379 Perhaps I'm in the minority (although I know I have fellow Pantry advocates) but if you choose wisely (read "simply") a Pantry breakfast can be rewarding. Well done sourdough toast, well done potatoes, eggs (no omlettes, they tend to be over cooked), and if you must have a meat, bacon well done. The ham steak looks and smells great but promises much more than it can deliver - it is, to my taste, flabby and has no real ham taste. Thu Nov 12 12:25:59 -0800 2009 5175647 14405 TomSwift 4 5176458 But there are DOZENS of places that can do simple breakfast foods WELL, and the Pantry ain't one of them. And it's another one of those places that feels like it's just NEVER been cleaned, ya know? I'd rather save my $ and go to a hole in the wall that CAN cook something decent. Heck, I'd go to IHOP, anyday over the Pantry. Thu Nov 12 12:52:13 -0800 2009 5176379 90755 Phurstluv 5 5176683 While I agree there's a certain nostalgia people have about the Pantry that leads to a bit of overstatement about the restaurant's qualities, I do have a soft spot for the Pantry's "hamburger steak" -- it's the closest thing I've found to my childhood grade school cafeteria salisbury steak. As to IHOP, I think the Pantry is definitely greasier than IHOP and if I want a greasy breakfast -- which is why one really goes to a greasy spoon -- then it's the Pantry all the way! :-) Thu Nov 12 13:48:30 -0800 2009 5176458 11583 ipsedixit 5 5176708 I certainly don't want to start a flame war, but I've not found any place that can do well done sourdough toast on the grill, and well done potatoes, as well as The Pantry. Agreed, the rest of their breakfast foods can be beaten elsewhere. And I sort of like the "never been cleaned" atmosphere, although they get an "A" rating. Thu Nov 12 13:53:52 -0800 2009 5176458 14405 TomSwift 6 5176792 re: A rating - Nice to be connected!! Although I heard that they were closed once for a violation, only time they've ever locked their doors. But nice to know they can do your favorite food best. And there are certainly lots of places with that grimy feel to them, I just prefer not to waste my dollars in most of them, unless they have something OUTSTANDING to make it worthwhile. Toast wouldn't qualify for me. And I know what you mean re: the certain nostalgia, ipse, but again, lots of hole in the wall places have that for those who have grown up here: Apple Pan, Phillippe's, Cole's, etc. Anyway, it's all good if it brings back happy memories. Thu Nov 12 14:13:56 -0800 2009 5176708 90755 Phurstluv 7 5176815 It does bring back very fond memories, which may be the real reason I drive from west SFV to downtown for the toast. Yeah, the Mayor did get busted a few years ago and shut down for a day, I think it was, but, as you say, it's nice to have connections. Thu Nov 12 14:21:28 -0800 2009 5176792 14405 TomSwift 2 5177114 Also don't forget: Colori Kitchen on 8th between Olive and Hill (Italian) Wood Spoon on 9th (Brazilian) New Moon on 9th (Chinese) Tiara Cafe on 9th (American) Panini Cafe on 9th across from Ralph's. Excellent Chicken Kabobs. The Persian restaurant on Hill South of 9th for lunch...excellent Gill's in the Hotel Stillwell (Indian) Thu Nov 12 16:19:38 -0800 2009 5172391 75707 RobertC