665302 Fri Nov 06 16:25:06 -0800 2009 16 22 Quebec (including Montreal) 0 5162282 I'm new to posting so I'm not sure if I'm allowed being negative, if so please forgive me. Last night CTV Montreal's "Raw Deal" news report aired a scathing report on Montreal sushi joints that has me irate! I urge you all to look it up and read/watch it. To sum up it basically found out that the only scammers bigger than used car dealerships are sushi joints with 14 of 16 randomly selected restaurants selling "mislabeled" items, and very obviously for their benefit (profit) and to our detriment. I even know of a very famous sushi chef (as famous as one could get I suppose) who was ultimately fired after refusing to lower his standards after that particular restaurant went corporate and expanded. It's time we set clear boundaries as to who the good guys and bad guys of sushi are in this town and purge the city of these fraud artists! We have WAY too many sushi joints here anyhow! What are the good and AUTHENTIC sushi restaurants in the city??? Thanks and farewell (hopefully the Yakuza don't come after me)! DRev Fri Nov 06 16:25:06 -0800 2009 1122383 Dreverends 1 5162308 Here's a link to the article and video report: http://montreal.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20091105/mtl_sushi2_091105/20091105/?hub=MontrealHome «What are the good and AUTHENTIC sushi restaurants in the city???» Jun-i is tops. Fri Nov 06 16:39:09 -0800 2009 5162282 10520 carswell 2 5162782 Ultimately this is when what you pay for sushi is what you get. skip the convenience of the subway/food court and don't be ashamed to spend a little more money. After all you are what you eat. I have been to Jun-i and believe all their food is organic however I don't believe they are as authentic as a place such as kaizen. My friend and I get great pleasure out of hanging out at their sushi bar (or on occasion with a group at a big table) and asking about their specials of the day. One such special which appears to be consistently on their menu now is the red snapper which is imported after being given acupuncture to keep it alive during the shipping process until literally a minute before it is in your mouth. Anyways as for purging a particular sushi place in town i am not sure if i am more opposed to miso or sushi shop... i would suggest avoiding either as what they produce is usually pretty disappointing and obviously not fresh or traceable Fri Nov 06 23:07:31 -0800 2009 5162308 1106868 wcundill 3 5163043 As someone who is a chef and who owned a fish/seafood restaurant for a few years I am always very suspicious whenever I see Red Snapper on a menu. It is an endangered species and as such it is not as plentiful as you might think from its frequent appearance on many menus. Genetic studies have shown, however, that many fish sold as red snapper in the USA and Canada are not actually Red Snapper, but other species in the family. This kind of seafood mislabelling is probably common with species that suffer from heavy overfishing, and whose stocks are depleted to the point that supply cannot keep up with demand. Two articles on this: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2004-07-14-fish-labeling_x.htm http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/379403,CST-NWS-sushi10.article After living on the West Coast for many years I have been consistently disappointed by the sushi places here in Montreal. Calgary has better sushi! But it has been my experience that Montreal is just not that much of a fish city. Sat Nov 07 07:07:21 -0800 2009 5162782 259263 bigfellow 2 5165664 Hai. Another vote for Jun-I. Sun Nov 08 15:44:39 -0800 2009 5162308 97533 thelonious777 1 5164026 If your looking for authentic sushi in Montreal go to Kaizen, sit at the sushi bar, order an omakaze and prepare to be amazed! Sat Nov 07 16:43:40 -0800 2009 5162282 239473 dylankier 2 5183089 there is precisely nothing authentic about Kaizen. It may be good food, upscale atmosphere, artful preparation etc but I would be surprised if they've ever even employed a japanese person (that is, after Koji left). Sun Nov 15 09:27:13 -0800 2009 5164026 181308 bopuc 1 5169092 Tri Express on Laurier or Bishoku on Bishop Mon Nov 09 20:35:25 -0800 2009 5162282 180940 jarschef 2 5183091 Tri is vietnamese. He and his staff make wonderful rolls. But there's nothng "authentic" there. Besides which, the entire concept of sushi, as westerners undertand it, is not authentic. So whatever eh? ;) Sun Nov 15 09:28:22 -0800 2009 5169092 181308 bopuc 1 5169229 I also put in a vote for Jun-i. Very fresh, very lovely sushi. Kaizen isn't bad. I will eat there, but I'm always a little disappointed. Tri express is good, but I like simple sushi, so I am not as impressed by all the fancy-dancy rolls. I used to like Mikado a lot, but I feel it has gone downhill lately. I agree with Bigfellow, Montreal really isn't a fish town. I miss Vancouver. Wow, the sushi and sashimi! It makes it hard for me to eat the stuff here. It has saved me a lot of money though. But Jun-i is pretty good, and I will go there if I really need my fix. For less expensive sushi, I still like Mr Kim's place in Westmount Square. But this isn't a destination sushi place. It is just an easy place to get some reasonably priced rolls and nigiri. Mon Nov 09 22:04:59 -0800 2009 5162282 89969 moh 1 5176647 I am pleased that I generally stick to salmon and shrimp! Thu Nov 12 13:38:55 -0800 2009 5162282 14157 C70 1 5183099 You want authentic, high quality sushi? Go to a japanese restaurant. (Azuma and the-restaurant-previously-known-as Osaka come to mind: the fish is as good as anywhere, since they all get it from the same place, and it is cut by someone who knows the art.) You want fancy creative "wow" maki ("rolls")? Go to any of the sushi joints in town, alternatively owned and operated by vietnamese, koreans, chinese, lebanese, etc etc... The problem here is the market and what it wants and what it considers "authentic". Westerners seem to think sushi is about colourful rolls, the more artfully assembled the better. Agreeably, they are nice, and tasty an denjoyable. But japanese, they are not. :) Sun Nov 15 09:32:33 -0800 2009 5162282 181308 bopuc 2 5183131 I think the first part of your comment is a little misguided but well intentioned.... the pedigree and nationality of the chefs has little to do with authenticity and execution. I've worked with 2 japanese chefs, a vietnamese chef, and a Korean chef. Each had a firm grasp of the art. Yet the Korean and only one of the japanese chefs were trained in Japan. Also we don't all get our fish from the same people. (trust me on this) I agree 100% that the market is directing restaurants into a maki centric view of sushi. This is something i've tried to direct my restaurant away from. Sun Nov 15 09:50:54 -0800 2009 5183099 1094291 KzenCass 3 5183566 if you don't mind me asking and out of sheer interest, you own a sushi restaurant? Sun Nov 15 13:23:32 -0800 2009 5183131 1113414 sharkbait88 4 5183808 Ha, yeah i to avoid mentioning my restaurant as it's not proper in this forum (as well as being against the rules)... i chose my screen name to keep my affiliation above board. I'm a sommelier and partner in the restaurant.... i've been involved in it since i was 18 (11 years). Ohh and in my saying that 'we don't all buy from the same people', i'm saying that we have buyers (friends and colleagues of our chef) in Japan (and elsewhere) that help us source fish, herbs, and other products from Japan and the surrounding countries. I'm not intending to market here... just trying to clarify somethings that were brought up here.... if the moderator has an issue with anything i've said here i have no problem to edit if you will explain what is out of line... merci, Cassady Sun Nov 15 15:10:53 -0800 2009 5183573 1094291 KzenCass 5 5184067 ah i see. sorry, didn't mean to make you violate forum rules! i was just curious and put in the post. Sun Nov 15 17:16:41 -0800 2009 5183808 1113414 sharkbait88 2 5188120 Osaka has it's ups and downs. I think that if you know the right stuff to order, it can be quite good... but it has it's off days. For instance, the last time I was there, my girlfriend was served a piece of tuna nigiri with a nasty blood line and tendon right down the middle. It was also cut quite poorly and looked a bit, well butchered. We informed our server, who has served us probably 40 times before, and she just looked puzzled, and told us it was a tendon and that it sometimes happens... Thanks, but I can cut tuna poorly myself. I am partially paying for the expertise of the person cutting my fish, ensuring that it is free of nerve, tendon, etc. With real sushi, you cannot compromise. When the ingredients are basically a handful of things, they all have to be done correctly or the point is entirely missed. End rant. Tue Nov 17 07:01:31 -0800 2009 5183099 208595 The Chemist