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  <id>665282</id>
  <title>Searching for the best Ris de Veau in Paris</title>
  <published_at>Fri Nov 06 14:42:09 -0800 2009</published_at>
  <post_count>16</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>49</id>
    <name>France</name>
  </board>
  <posts>
    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>5162019</id>
        <content>Hi 'hounders, I have a serious craving for ris de veau. Happens to many of us from time to time, I know. What restaurant, in your opinion, serves the best ris de veau in Paris? 

Arrondissement &amp; price is not important, although I would prefer a less stuffy place than your typical 3 macaron-er. Merci</content>
        <published_at>Fri Nov 06 14:42:09 -0800 2009</published_at>
        <parent_id></parent_id>
        <user>
          <id>1114645</id>
          <name>chickenluv</name>
        </user>
      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5162043</id>
      <content>What style are you looking for?  Entier? Roasted? Sectioned? Fried/sauteed? Sauced or no?</content>
      <published_at>Fri Nov 06 14:48:07 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5162019</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1107357</id>
        <name>mangeur</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5168492</id>
      <content>Any way is good except breaded and deep fried (I see this often in the US and it pains me... just not a good way to showcase the taste of the ris itself, IMHO). What is important to me is the taste of the ris de veau, I've liked whole, sectioned, sauteed, braised, glazed, etc. Sauce is fine too as long as it doesn't overpower. Thanks.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Nov 09 16:29:40 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5162043</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1114645</id>
        <name>chickenluv</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5162055</id>
      <content>Will wait for Souphie to chime in, but best l had was on his plate at Ledoyen, nothing has ever come close.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Nov 06 14:50:43 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5162019</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>71113</id>
        <name>Delucacheesemonger</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5162118</id>
      <content>It will be interesting to see. His previous best was at L'Atelier Joel Robuchon and it is very good there. IMO it is a dish that need some care, skill, and time to prepare well, thus the top places are often a better bet. </content>
      <published_at>Fri Nov 06 15:09:54 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5162055</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>64584</id>
        <name>PhilD</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5162219</id>
      <content>A very good one is served at Chez G&#233;raud which was Pudlo's pick as best bistro of the year last year. It is normally braised, but fastidiously so.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Nov 06 15:45:14 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5162019</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>16936</id>
        <name>Laidback</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5162326</id>
      <content>In order of price: Tante Louise, L'Atelier de Joel Robuchon, Ledoyen.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Nov 06 16:48:43 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5162019</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>96547</id>
        <name>souphie</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5162902</id>
      <content>The one at La Grande Cascade is not half bad either.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Nov 07 05:11:45 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5162326</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>223249</id>
        <name>olivierb</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>5163193</id>
      <content>Absolutely - I forgot it. As did I the one at l'Auberge Bressane, with its cream and morel sauce. </content>
      <published_at>Sat Nov 07 08:24:50 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5162902</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>96547</id>
        <name>souphie</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5164668</id>
      <content>At Le Bristol I had some other dish (can't remember what) which had ris de veau on the side.  This was a delicious combination--the highlight of an otherwise forgettable meal--and easy on the stomach, too!  At L'Ambroisie one of my tablemates once ordered ris de veau; I tasted a couple of bites, but didn't find it especially interesting.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Nov 08 05:08:27 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5162019</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>266399</id>
        <name>fanoffrance</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5164877</id>
      <content>The ris de veau I had at L'Ambroisie were heavenly.  The dish was ris de veau et escargots served with a cr&#232;me chantilly and it remains one of the best things I've ever eaten.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Nov 08 07:56:29 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5164668</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11773</id>
        <name>shortstop</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>5180840</id>
      <content>must agree with L'Ambroisie.
Last time we were there it was served 3 ways,and was by far the best I have ever had.
It was beautifully presented as well.
A memorable dish.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Nov 14 05:55:52 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5164877</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10837</id>
        <name>erly</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5164983</id>
      <content>The traditional ris de veau at Le Bristol is on Cinnamon skewers and a kind of spinachs called tetragone. It is pretty damn good, but unfortunately it is indeed one of the few great dishes of a restaurant that otherwise lost its way in gaining the three stars. 

I don't like the ris de veau at l'Ambroisie either, but it's largely a matter of taste, as the l'Ambroisie one is on the well done side, without any creaminess inside, unlike the others I mentioned. I have the same issue with their chicken, but again, it's not a matter of faulting them. Funny how so many chefs who otherwise like intense tastes love their meat and seafood well done (Passard, Pacaud, Loiseau...)</content>
      <published_at>Sun Nov 08 09:11:47 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5164668</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>96547</id>
        <name>souphie</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5168499</id>
      <content>Thank you for so many ideas. I have had the ris de veau at Atelier and it is great. I am a creamy inside type so I have added Tante Louise and La Grande Cascade to my must taste list. Maybe make it back to Ledoyen one night (been there, but missed the ris de veau).
Thanks you again, 'hounders!</content>
      <published_at>Mon Nov 09 16:33:30 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5162019</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1114645</id>
        <name>chickenluv</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5169278</id>
      <content>At Ledoyen, the ris de veau is often on the 88&#8364; lunch deal. </content>
      <published_at>Mon Nov 09 22:39:21 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5168499</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>96547</id>
        <name>souphie</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5174907</id>
      <content>I had an excellent Ris de Veau with Cepes at Le Comptoir du Relais about a week ago. It was a lunch special but I'd imagine it's something they do different versions of on a regular basis. </content>
      <published_at>Thu Nov 12 01:51:07 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5168499</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>281002</id>
        <name>eatrustic</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>5181542</id>
      <content>I had this dish for lunch just yesterday at Le Comptoir, and it was delicious.  </content>
      <published_at>Sat Nov 14 12:34:52 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5174907</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1119540</id>
        <name>Barbra Austin</name>
      </user>
    </post>
  </posts>
</topic>
