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ISO: Beef tallow fries

I'm not the biggest fan of 'french' fries. But I enjoy them if they are done well.

I also know that the fat that is used is crucial for flavour.

Anyone know where to get fries fried in beef tallow in Toronto?

I would hate to make them myself...

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  1. while not fine dining by ANY means .... and i mean ANY means ....

    Master Steak on Dixie 1 block north of the 401 fries there's in beef tallow

    the masterburger is actually very good too -- the best under $10 i've had

    (this is a truck stop ... so dont bring first dates here)

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    Master Steaks
    5895 Dixie Rd, Mississauga, ON L4W1E8, CA

    1. Please report back if you try them.
      Beef tallow is sometimes used for fries in New Zealand in fish and chip places, and the chips are McCains. I find the result bordering on unpalatable and leaving me feeling queasy. But obviously somebody must like them. Perhaps one must build up a tolerance to the fat.

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      1. Not sure about Toronto, but know for sure there is a guy on the Lakeshore in Oakville in Bronte that does, and they're damn good : )

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        Lakeshore Restaurant
        2390 Lake Shore Blvd W, Toronto, ON M8V1C3, CA

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        1. re: dannyboy

          Is that the place in Bronte??

          For some reason your "Lakeshore" links to an address in Toronto.

          1. re: ylsf

            Yes, in Bronte in Oakville, south side of the street...they were *really* good
            the wife is a veggie but loved them so much i didn't have the heart to tell her the truth...

        2. McDonald's fries used to be fried in beef tallow, and when they made the change to vegetable oil in 1990, they employed flavour chemistry to replicate the flavour of the beef tallow. Supposedly their current product is almost indistinguishable from the tallow incarnation, so arguably, you can enjoy "beef tallow" fries at Mickey Dees.

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          1. re: Crispier Crouton

            Very arguably. I'm old enough to remember McDonald's fries a long time ago. The fries they serve today don't even vaguely resemble the ones they served way back when - and they haven't in decades.

            Even more galling is that I've heard them tell people that their fries are suitable for vegetarians, when - in Canada - they apparently aren't.

            1. re: embee

              Hmmmm. I had my first McDonald's fries in 1972 and I still remember them as the same as back then. Admittedly I might be getting addled in my advanced age but I consider McDonald's fries as the epitome of consistency over the ages.

                1. re: Shimso

                  The current ones are, they were very publically shamed a few years ago when it was discovered that they were frying in vegetable oil but the coating on the fries contained a beef derived flavour extract.

            2. Penrose Fish & Chips on Mt. Pleasant defintely uses beef tallow to fry their chips.

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              1. re: bogie

                In fact both the fish and the chips.
                Really good!
                Take your cardiologist for lunch!!

              2. Duckworth's Fish & Chips, N side of the Danforth, E of Main St fries in beef fat.

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                1. re: beach_cook

                  Is that place still there? I thought they closed after Len Duckworth died a few years ago. Wasn't it called "Len Duckworth's"? The Duckworth's on Kingston Rd W of Midland is still there; I found their fries pale and undercooked on a recent visit.

                  1. re: CeeQueue

                    Len Duckworth's on Danforth is still there. I don't know whether it's still in the same family, but it's open. Whatever their frying medium might have been, several meals there a few years ago made me feel so ill that I've never been back. Everything was overwhelmingly heavy.

                2. The fat can strongly affect the flavour, but it's really about much more than that. Fries made in beef drippings, duck fat, or goose fat can be especially delicious, but are not necessarily delicious.

                  Other critical factors include the type of potatoes, whether they have been frozen, their size and shape after chipping, whether they are wet or dry, whether they are blanched and then finished or just cooked once, the specific cooking temperatures, the age of the oil, other foods that have been cooked in that oil, and the skill of the cook. Deep frying IS a skill, but many restaurants don't treat it as such.

                  While beef drippings can produce amazing fries, the beef fat may have been processed to the point where little "beef dripping" flavour remains - certainly not enough to transfer to the food. And when fries are cooked carelessly in beef fat, the result can be particularly unpleasant. Something like peanut oil is much more forgiving.

                  One thing I've noticed is that the fries at many restaurants changed for the worse when they switched to Canola oil. Yet I've also tasted delicious fries cooked in Canola oil. It's much harder than it looks to produce an amazing fry.

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                  1. re: embee

                    I have to agree. After deciding that I was fed up with french fries and then tasting Jamie Kennedy's fries a few months later, my hope was restored and I realized that the problem is that most places just don't know how to cook fries properly. If JK can make his fries taste that stunning, then clearly there is an art to making the proper french fry.

                    1. re: embee

                      I've had a lot of great frites here in Paris done in sunflower oil.

                    2. I thought High Street (fish & chips place) on Underhill did. Can anyone confirm or correct this?

                      1. Indeed, beef tallow makes the best fried potatoes although goose fat is good too.

                        The best fish and chip shops all use beef drip. These include Duckworth's, Sea Witch, Kingsway, Olde York and the recently closed Penrose.

                        Chips or fries made with vegetable oil are disgusting. Always ask the chippy before ordering.

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                        1. re: JimboToronto

                          Olde York uses vegetable oil. And their fries are pretty good.

                        2. Tallow oil is the LOWEST grade and cheapest fryer oil ever made. It is extremely unhealthy and even Mcdonalds was forced to stop using it due to public outcry.

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                          1. re: chef33

                            That's correct. Unless you want to shorten your life, I'm not sure why you would want to eat food fried in beef tallow. Duck fat is much healthier!

                            1. re: chef33

                              I cannot stop laughing. God it's great to be in Brussels.

                              1. re: chef33

                                Chowhounds who like tallow fried fries insist on high grade, free range, extra virgin, gluten-free tallow. We're not interested in cheap, low grade tallow. Also, only top quality schmaltz and lard is used by the Chowhounds I know.

                                1. re: prima

                                  Artisanal tallow. Hand-rendered from the cow in small batches by certified suetologists.

                                  1. re: hal2010

                                    but is it Halal? (not that I care)

                                    1. re: foodyDudey

                                      I don't know. But in case you wanted to know if McD's fries are halal: http://yourquestions.mcdonalds.ca/que...

                                      Also, apparently, McD's doesn't grind up whole chickens for their nuggets:http://yourquestions.mcdonalds.ca/que...

                                      1. re: foodyDudey

                                        Reminds me of a sandwich I had in the old, Muslim section of Hyderabad India. It was basically a really spicy, loose beef sandwich with lots of raw onions on a white sub roll. But instead of mayonnaise it had a white sauce that was rendered beef fat, squeezed out of a bottle. Really delicious. Could be artisanal. Definitely Halal.

                                2. Please take note as I indicated beef tallow is the lowest of the lows. It is not beef drippings nor is it halal. It is a by-product of beef entrails etc. Mcdonalds used it because they could purchase it in bulk for pennies by the gallon in tank trucks. this was a convenient way slaughter houses disposed of waste. Tallow oil only kills you, not enhance the flavour of fries. For the most part good seasoning does a better job.

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                                    1. re: prima

                                      I am thinking of trying it. I could cube it, then partially freeze the cubes and then run it through the grinder with a 1/4 inch coarse grind plate and then cook it. The grinding should speed things up.

                                    2. re: chef33

                                      I can't take note until you repeat yourself again. One more time please? Then I will agree with you.

                                      1. re: chef33

                                        Science is starting to shed light on how many of the "newer" products used to deep fry foods are just as bad, just in a slightly different way.

                                        At least if you render your own tallow you know what you have and if used in moderation its not going to bring on the grim reaper calling unless a person is genetically predisposed to problems with animal fats.

                                        1. re: chef33

                                          Right. I didn't realize Belgians were almost extinct from consuming all that tallow oil! Why would anyone THINK of enjoying Belgian fries in beef tallow? Not to mention all that terrible mayonnaise...

                                            1. re: BlackMambaSommelier

                                              I'd imagine mayonnaise in Belgium is kind of terrible, compared to Hellman's. ;)