664209 Mon Nov 02 15:02:12 -0800 2009 13 18 Manhattan 0 5150297 Looking for a night out . several cocktails and a great meal............. Mon Nov 02 15:02:12 -0800 2009 1121150 Imac 1 5152642 I think the food at Mesa Grill is much better than Bar Americain. I've had very average/subpar meals at Bar Americain. Though the space is nicer. Tue Nov 03 12:06:42 -0800 2009 5150297 80751 MinhLikesFood 2 5177850 Yuck and Yuck ,, just have the cocktails Thu Nov 12 22:24:33 -0800 2009 5152642 118604 foodwhisperer 1 5152765 I had very subpar food at both places. If I HAD to choose, I would pick Mesa. Tue Nov 03 12:47:12 -0800 2009 5150297 134710 taboo 1 5152773 I think the food at these two restaurants are different. Mesa Grill reminded me of bolder flavors with more Latin roots. While Bar Americain reminded me of a steakhouse-type feel. With that said, although both were fine, I thought Mesa Grill was better just because they had more interesting dishes. Tue Nov 03 12:49:09 -0800 2009 5150297 1082291 tastyeating 2 5155033 I agree with tastyeating. We prefer Mesa Grill. (Disclaimer: Bobby Flay is a generous supporter to my wife's charity.) We always have a nice meal, good drinks and excellent service. I have to say lunch is usually better, why? don't know, less harried? Wed Nov 04 08:53:35 -0800 2009 5152773 90313 Stuartmc910 3 5155294 Bar Americain is tired, nothing exciting on inspiring about it. I've heard better things about Mesa Grill though never been myself. Wed Nov 04 10:01:36 -0800 2009 5155033 21862 foodie4life 1 5156163 bar americain gets its lumps on this board. i like it. i like sitting at the bar, sipping a martini and waiting for my wife to scoot over after work. the seafood cocktails are pretty good. so too the hanger steak. moules frites come with a tasty sauce and the fries are above average. the barkeeps and wait staff are a pleasure to deal with. Wed Nov 04 14:12:37 -0800 2009 5150297 10627 steve h. 2 5157496 I prefer Bar Americain too. Mesa Grill is good, but the food is a bit too fussy for me (i.e too many ingredients and a bit too rich). Thu Nov 05 05:01:39 -0800 2009 5156163 1093353 fm1963 3 5157758 I like Bar Americain better too, and agree that their bar is a great place to sit with a martini and people-watch. Thu Nov 05 07:10:36 -0800 2009 5157496 1112845 saj1139 1 5156176 I enjoyed both but definitely think Mesa Grill is much better and more interesting. Wed Nov 04 14:15:05 -0800 2009 5150297 225271 west79chiro 1 5157961 Glad to hear that Mesa Grill is still worth visiting. My parents are coming in town next week and Mom is really wanting to go there. Any must haves or favorites? Thu Nov 05 08:22:21 -0800 2009 5150297 75862 newfoodie 1 5168883 Mesa Grill has excellent drinks, but the food was not great....We shared the duo tartars and they were so spicy that we couldn't taste the difference! What really did it for me though was the black hair on my $30 seared tuna entree...inexcusable. Bar Americain does doesn't have the amazing margaritas, but the food is really excellent. I think Mesa has a better vibe for a fun night out, but I'd pick Rosa Mexicano before Mesa... They have such different vibes though, so they are quite hard to compare. Mon Nov 09 18:57:52 -0800 2009 5150297 215110 cpeterson729 1 5176290 Wondering if this place is kid friendly? I have some friends coming into the city on Sunday, and they want to eat here. But I don't have a sitter and have to drag my 2 kids along. Thu Nov 12 12:02:58 -0800 2009 5150297 24350 dexters