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<topic>
  <id>66379</id>
  <title>Jay Burger's RIP ??!!</title>
  <published_at>Fri Feb 04 23:45:15 -0800 2005</published_at>
  <post_count>32</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>2</id>
    <name>Los Angeles Area</name>
  </board>
  <posts>
    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>358817</id>
        <content>Went by Jayburger's tonight &amp; saw a sign posted "thanks for 37 years"..due to construction in the parking lot...anyone have any info ??
Thanks !</content>
        <published_at>Fri Feb 04 23:45:15 -0800 2005</published_at>
        <parent_id></parent_id>
        <user>
          <id>0</id>
          <name>alison</name>
        </user>
      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>358819</id>
      <content>Oh no! Say it ain't so. And no time for a march or protest or anything?</content>
      <published_at>Sat Feb 05 00:01:55 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>358817</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>JJ</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>358820</id>
      <content>Was it open or what?</content>
      <published_at>Sat Feb 05 00:05:04 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>358819</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Burger Boy</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>358823</id>
      <content>Email the daughter for info..jayannrodgersrojas@yahoo.com..that's what the sign said to do..Jay's was closed &amp; there were angry people milling about, reading the sign &amp; swearing..
 
</content>
      <published_at>Sat Feb 05 00:12:45 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>358819</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>alison</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>358825</id>
      <content>The excitement over that place is ridiculous.  Good riddance to that vastly overrated dive.  
 
I've had better burgers at McDonalds.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Feb 05 00:21:54 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>358823</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Margaret Gray</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>358830</id>
      <content>Exactly.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Feb 05 01:36:30 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>358825</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Briggs</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>358927</id>
      <content>Okay fool, you all are so childish, Jay;s was the high end fast food chili cheese burger in Los Angeles.  Jay used to work for Tommy;s and one day told Tommy that he tought the could make a tastier and less greasy chili, Tommy said you know so much open your own place.  Jay was a great person, He saw me one night at the Los Feliz Inn with my mother and gramd mother, I was in my 30's at the time, he said hello, asked what the occassion was and sent over a $100 bottle of champaign.  He helped many of his employees buy cars and loaned then money when they neede,  Jay was a great person of wonderful character and always on hand to buy yearbook space from the local kids or contribute to a charity, sometimes we would catch him at the driving range hitting a bucket of balls.  The guys, Robert, Manuel, and Smitty were like family, the saw you grow up, they knew when you brole up with your girlfriends.  They saw you alot at 2, 3, or 4 in the morning trying to sober up before going home to your parents or girlfriends, they sometimes saw you waiting for them at 7 in the morning need that hangover cure they made so well.  Wish I could have on more Double Jay All the Way!!!
Jay and his daughter, who I met many years ago at The Cat &amp; Fiddle, and all the Guys will be missed.  Thank you for 37 Wonderful Years!!!</content>
      <published_at>Sun Feb 06 01:39:43 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>358830</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Burger Boy</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>6</level>
      <id>358932</id>
      <content>Nice post, thanks Burger Boy. Jay sounds like a helluva guy. Too bad there wasn't some notice before they closed.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Feb 06 03:08:43 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>358927</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>JJ</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>7</level>
      <id>359007</id>
      <content>Jay's was what it was, a great chili burger, it was not an In &amp; Out, or Cassells, or a 26 Beach, but for that great chili burger from a shack, Jay's hands down, got up size it with the fresh lemonade.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Feb 07 00:51:53 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>358932</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Burger Boy</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>6</level>
      <id>358934</id>
      <content>Jay may have been a great guy, and you obviously have emotional connections to the place. Nothing wrong in that. I just wish Jay made a better burger, 
 
In any case, I'm sorry you took the comments about the food so personally, specifically with your "fool" comment.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Feb 06 03:13:59 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>358927</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Briggs</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>7</level>
      <id>358959</id>
      <content>There's a LOT more to a great stand than just good food. It really doesn't matter if someplace else does it a little bit better, or a little bit cheaper. A place with roots as deep as Jay's going away is like the old oak trees we lost in the last storm. You just can't replace them.
 
I remember when they tore down the Bob's Big Boy on Colorado in Glendale to put up a mini mall. The fact that the food was mediocre at Bobs meant nothing. It was like losing a part of the family.
 
You've already stated that you didn't care for the burgers at Jays and you explained why. No need to relieve yourself on other people's memories.
 
See ya
Steve Doggie-Dogg

Link: http://www.hotdogspot.com</content>
      <published_at>Sun Feb 06 14:34:44 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>358934</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Steve Doggie-Dogg</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>8</level>
      <id>358989</id>
      <content>"No need to relieve yourself on other people's memories."
It was not my intention, nor did I do that.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Feb 06 20:31:50 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>358959</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Briggs</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>8</level>
      <id>359006</id>
      <content>I loved that Bob's, was that the one at Maryland and colorado, or the one farther east on Colorado.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Feb 07 00:48:02 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>358959</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Burger Boy</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>9</level>
      <id>359014</id>
      <content>The Bobs on Colorado was the original location. Bobs number 2 was right off Brand Bl near the Post Office. It's a Chinese restaurant now. Bobs 3 was in Eagle Rock- that one's a Thai restaurant now.
 
When I was a kid, my brother would drive me and my sister down to the Bobs car hops in his Barracuda for cherry cokes and onion rings.
 
See ya
Steve

Link: http://www.hotdogspot.com</content>
      <published_at>Mon Feb 07 01:51:21 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>359006</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Steve Doggie-Dogg</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>8</level>
      <id>359278</id>
      <content>i couldn't agree more. if you didn't like it don't ruin the fond memories of others.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Feb 08 01:13:15 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>358959</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>tom</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>358835</id>
      <content>Yeah its not the best ever by any means. And I guess if I didnt live so close I might not go there at all. But I just hate when these old time mom &amp; pop places close for a mini-mall or some such.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Feb 05 02:31:43 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>358825</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>JJ</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>358846</id>
      <content>I concur with Margaret Gray. There was nothing memorable about Jay Burgers. I'll take a Fat Burger or In &amp; Out over it any day.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Feb 05 10:49:17 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>358825</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>lisa</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>358967</id>
      <content>Isn't it nice to have a choice? Even if just for the atmosphere? I've had many a nice late night with friends years back after a club, enjoying the lemonade and a burger with grilled onions at Jay's. I'm sure it wouldn't win in a blind tasting, but most of the food I eat isn't consumed blind. </content>
      <published_at>Sun Feb 06 16:36:02 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>358846</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Jerome</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>358872</id>
      <content>Jay, who played such an important part in local burger history, served what may have been THE classic Los Angeles burger. Anybody who prefers chain mediocrities to the real thing on a toasted bun deserves every microgram of arterial plaque. </content>
      <published_at>Sat Feb 05 15:39:13 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>358825</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>condiment</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>358877</id>
      <content>"Jay, who played such an important part in local burger history served what may have been THE classic Los Angeles burger"
 
Sorry, classic not necessarily equal good. Jay's is/was a thin fried griddle patty topped with a ton of garbage to mask the lack of a decent burger. And not even charbroiled...</content>
      <published_at>Sat Feb 05 16:07:45 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>358872</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Briggs</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>6</level>
      <id>359074</id>
      <content>There is no shame in a griddled hamburger. Some of the world's greatest hamburgers come off of griddles; some of the worst, off charcoal. And to imply that Jay Coffin used inferior meat is a libel - his variation on the classic California lunch-counter burger, smeared with chili instead of mayonnaise, was something close to genius, and it was always impeccably prepared.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Feb 07 13:51:18 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>358877</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>condiment</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>7</level>
      <id>359117</id>
      <content>That's your opinion.  I wouldn't go out of my way for a griddled burger.  I get those in my kitchen.
 
By the way, he didn't say the meat was inferior.  He said it wasn't "decent", which can mean a whole lot of things and is an honest statement of opinion, ie, not libelous.
 
Count me in the group that never got the hype over this place.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Feb 07 16:12:24 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>359074</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Nan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>8</level>
      <id>359297</id>
      <content>Hype? Jay was a sickly 85-year-old man who maintained his 12-stool hamburger stand in an iffy neighborhood for close to 50 years.
 
Hype is what In n' Out Burger buys with a multi-million dollar ad budget and an army of PR people pushing the ``secret'' menu. Hype is why you may find it difficult to get a table at Dolce. Hype is a heavily subsidized 26-year-old thinking that he can reinvent the rules of French cuisine. Hype is the 45-minute wait for a Pinks dog. Hype is not an old man with a small, marginal burger shack and chili in his veins.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Feb 08 08:05:20 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>359117</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>condiment</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>9</level>
      <id>359300</id>
      <content>Bad choice of words.  What I meant was I don't understand why people foam at the mouth over a place that serves such mediocre burgers.  
 
Marginal is the perfect word for a Jay's burger.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Feb 08 09:46:55 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>359297</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Nan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>358885</id>
      <content>     Was this the same Jay's Burger that in the early 60s was on Vermont across the street from LACC???     
</content>
      <published_at>Sat Feb 05 17:27:33 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>358817</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Hugh Lipton</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>358930</id>
      <content>That was the first location.  Ah an OS Jay afficanado.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Feb 06 02:20:18 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>358885</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Burger Boy</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>359003</id>
      <content>During the early 60's, Tommy's was the king.  Jay's was the new guy trying to dethrone the king.  I remember his burger was basically the same but his chili was a little blander and he used big chopped onions that was sometimes overpowering.  The best thing about the original stand on Vermont across from L.A. City College was a great juke box that had a lot of now classic jazz.  Miles, Bird, Horace Silver and my all time personal favorite, Clifford Brown.  Does anyone else remember that juke box?</content>
      <published_at>Mon Feb 07 00:31:18 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>358930</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>eeka</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>359356</id>
      <content>     I remember that juke box like yesterday.  There was also a coffee shop four doors outh of Jays (approx.)  Good juke box there reasonably non-descript food and great coffee.  Plus one of the best looking waitresses a college fellow could go want to look at.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Feb 08 15:57:13 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>359003</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Hugh Lipton</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>359002</id>
      <content>Would you mind saying where Jayburger's was/is? And are you sure it is really closed for good, or just temporarily, as the sign indicates? Is that the place in West Hollywood that's being replaced by a Peet's Coffee?</content>
      <published_at>Mon Feb 07 00:27:06 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>358817</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Andrew Gore</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>359031</id>
      <content>Spoke with a friend of mine who talked to some Jay's people. Seems as they had to close for a temporary amount of time while that mini-mall is being built. Too much dust was around with construction. So for the time being they are closed until the dust settles............</content>
      <published_at>Mon Feb 07 11:05:58 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>358817</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Jaymes </name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>359145</id>
      <content>YEAH BABY!!!</content>
      <published_at>Mon Feb 07 17:22:24 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>359031</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Burger Boy</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>359424</id>
      <content>My friends and I used to eat there in the mid to late 70's after partying.  I'd usually eat a chili-cheese burger with a fried egg on it or sometimes without the egg.  Anyway, I used to wake up sick in the middle of the night in some way every single time I ate there.  (I'm not describing anymore and no, I'm not exaggerating.)  The food was good but it sure didn't agree with my tender teenaged stomach.
 
David</content>
      <published_at>Tue Feb 08 20:54:02 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>358817</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>DavidSL</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2005392</id>
      <content>i am still young, and my dad used to take me there when i was really young, and i would have a jay burger anyday over a tommy burger. YES it is less greasy, and YES it is an amazing burger, but YES in n out and fat burger are soo good, but they are in a different burger field when it comes down to it. this is strickly chili burgers. and they were damn good. i was fortunate to experience them, but for only i'd say 8 years. i WISH and HOPE and am WAITING for them to come back. i will be there waiting for the lemonade and burger....</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 08 08:16:50 -0800 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>358817</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>40036</id>
        <name>caitybirdie</name>
      </user>
    </post>
  </posts>
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