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  <id>663734</id>
  <title>Jamon Iberico/Jamon Serrano in Philly</title>
  <published_at>Sat Oct 31 12:36:11 -0700 2009</published_at>
  <post_count>13</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>15</id>
    <name>Pennsylvania</name>
  </board>
  <posts>
    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>5145355</id>
        <content>Looking to purchase for home consumption.  Aside from DiBruno Bros, where can I find this in Philly?  </content>
        <published_at>Sat Oct 31 12:36:11 -0700 2009</published_at>
        <parent_id></parent_id>
        <user>
          <id>43746</id>
          <name>AJSoprano</name>
        </user>
      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5145726</id>
      <content>Aside from restaurants, I've never seen it anywhere other than DiBruno's.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Oct 31 16:18:01 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5145355</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>53643</id>
        <name>Boognish</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5146064</id>
      <content>Claudio's has jamon serrano, but not jamon iberico. </content>
      <published_at>Sat Oct 31 20:24:24 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5145355</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1092554</id>
        <name>caga tio</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5146713</id>
      <content>If you are going to head down to the Italian Market it is worth checking out D'Angelo Brothers butcher shop.  I don't know if they have either jamons, but I remember they were selling duck prosciutto for close to half the price of DiBruno.

BTW, what is the problem with DiBruno?</content>
      <published_at>Sun Nov 01 08:37:46 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5145355</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>281736</id>
        <name>barryg</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5148253</id>
      <content>Downtown Cheese in the RTM has had Serrano</content>
      <published_at>Sun Nov 01 22:28:43 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5145355</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>76938</id>
        <name>Bigley9</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5182870</id>
      <content>Yesterday Downtown Cheese in the RTM had Iberico (tho not on the bone)</content>
      <published_at>Sun Nov 15 07:09:34 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5148253</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>76938</id>
        <name>Bigley9</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>5183032</id>
      <content>Did you notice how much it cost?</content>
      <published_at>Sun Nov 15 08:46:02 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5182870</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>281736</id>
        <name>barryg</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>5183371</id>
      <content>no, sorry</content>
      <published_at>Sun Nov 15 11:45:29 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5183032</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>76938</id>
        <name>Bigley9</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5152795</id>
      <content>This may seem like an elitist post, but l am an elitist. Here in Europe Iberico is ALWAYS hand cut off the bone. In USA with one exception l know of, even where l used to work, the ham comes in boneless and is generally done on slicer. The difference is night and day, especially for the iberico, or otherwise known black foot Jabuga. This product is available, or was a few months ago , as Despana in NY on the bone, put in a cradle, and sliced by hand to order;. One store is in Soho. Serrano is a lesser product, by no means bad and has been coming in the country for some time. It, like prosciutto does not have the same curing or something for the fat of a properly cut slice of Jabuga is better than any other ham of that style ever had. At ham fairs here in France, they sell a myriad of hams on bone, whole or will slice, pushing good hams, as French Bayonne and French
Pyrenees hams and they are excellent, but last night at a fussy affair they had a man slicing Jabuga here in Paris and it stopped people, including me dead in their tracks, it was so over the top wonderful. Try Despana, hopefully they still have it. If not perhaps our government has yet again tried to protect us from ourselves.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 03 12:52:44 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5145355</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>71113</id>
        <name>Delucacheesemonger</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5153104</id>
      <content>Thanks for that information - it's actually very interesting.  I would not have considered that about a ham.

I'm generally glad to find it at all though.  It's kind of fun to know it can actually be better, and I look forward to testing the difference when I am able to head back to Europe, but for now I can still enjoy the product as I AM able to find it.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 03 14:17:45 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5152795</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>211484</id>
        <name>PhillyA</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5155991</id>
      <content>That's jabugo, Mr. Elitist, not "jabuga" and the word refers to the pig not the ham so it's still jamon (de jabugo).  You won't find it sliced off the bone anywhere around here. It's a pain to do it and most counter staff wouldn't have the skill with a knife even if a shop wanted to take the time. The iberico/jabugo you can buy here was cured on the bone, deboned and then shrink-wrapped. It's the same basic thing, just not in it's optimal state. That said, decent jamon iberico sliced from a de-boned hame is better than a "great" example of most other hams so don't feel bad about the iberico products you'll get at DiBrunos.
Whoops, sorry, it looks like there are French references to jabuga - but in several trips to Spain I have only seeit spelled Jabugo there. Strange.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 04 13:18:15 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5152795</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1106870</id>
        <name>caganer</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>5163530</id>
      <content>I'm pretty sure I saw them slicing prosciutto di parma off the bone at DiBruno on 9th St a while ago.  I don't know if that is more common, and I think they used a slicer.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Nov 07 11:58:05 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5155991</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>281736</id>
        <name>barryg</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5156706</id>
      <content>Serrano..at the chesse vendor in the Ardmore Farmers market..</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 04 17:21:05 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5145355</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12697</id>
        <name>GBak504</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5162069</id>
      <content>Downtown cheese and at the Ardmore Farmer's Market are same owner, thus product should be similar as from same supplier.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Nov 06 14:55:06 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5156706</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>71113</id>
        <name>Delucacheesemonger</name>
      </user>
    </post>
  </posts>
</topic>
