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Tired of my pizza delivery place...looking for new options--Brooklyn-Slope

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bklynkat Oct 29, 2009 02:18 PM

Peppe's on 4th Ave. in Park Slope/South Slope is our pizza deliver of choice...and we're generally happy but want to try some new places. We tried Pizza Plus and were not happy.
Any other pizza preferences around South Slope or such?

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Peppe's
597 4th Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11215

Pizza Plus
359 7th Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11215

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    noisejoke Oct 29, 2009 07:59 PM

    Luigi's Luigi's Luigi's!!!!

    5th ave between 20th and 21st.

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      adam Oct 30, 2009 07:01 AM

      Do you know what their delivery zone is? I live at 15th off of 5th, and they said it was too far, which was very disappointing to me. But I wonder if I could get them to come the whole six blocks, if I ask nicely (or get someone else on the phone).

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        noisejoke Oct 30, 2009 08:42 AM

        Adam - Shamefully, I've only recently begun to stop by for slices after hearing about the place for a couple years. I live in Kensington so wouldn't qualify for delivery anyway. As far as I can tell, deliveries are made by bike by one of the two kids that work there. So, there are limits but maybe some flexibility with the right sweet talk. I'd recommend hanging out a bit, and getting to know Gio. Then broach the subject face to face. Perhaps, you'll have an entree when you eventually make the call.
        This might sound like a bit of work or an assignment, and I suppose it is. But, it can't hurt to hang out every couple of weeks, have a fun conversation and get to know him. I'm in the midst of that myself. I love hearing what he has to say about competitors, ingredients, scuttlebutt, pizza philosophy.
        Oh yeah, and the pizza is awesome too. But you knew that!

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        Luigi's Pizza
        686 5th Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11215

    2. famdoc Oct 30, 2009 07:57 AM

      AFAIK, Peppe's is the best in the South Slope. Why change when you've got a good thing?

      I like Toby's Public House, as well. But, I don't think they deliver.

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      Peppe's
      597 4th Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11215

      Toby's Public House
      686 6th Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11215

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        HankyT Oct 30, 2009 09:41 AM

        Peppe's is not better than Luigi's, sorry fam. But of course these disagreements can go on forever, right? Remember that endless and distructive Peppe's thread when the place opened? I like 'em fine and they're great people, but Luigi's is the place.
        I think Toby's is excellent too, and the family and I love to go in there for salads, pies and beer. But spendy it is! The first time I went there with another couple plus young daughter, we had several drinks, maybe 3 pies, a couple of salads and dessert, and it was more than 200, with tip. Seemed a little steep. But it hasn't stopped us from going.

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        Peppe's
        597 4th Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11215

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          famdoc Oct 30, 2009 10:18 AM

          @HankyT:

          I agree with you about Toby's: if you have anything more than pizza and a beer here, you're going to get into a serious tab. I, too, take my family there and seldom leave without dropping a C note (two adults and three teenagers). But, quality is worth the price: the food, not just the pizzas, is fresh and well-prepared. We usually have a few apps for the table and most are priced at $12-16. Add to that two pies and beverages and you can see where the total leads us.

          Haven't tried Luigi's yet, but will very soon. Thanks for the suggestion.

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            HankyT Oct 30, 2009 11:38 AM

            Yeah the food is all fantastically well-prepared at Toby's. The salads are creative and delish. The apps, great. Pies, impeccable. Plus they always have a great selection of beers on tap. I wish the TVs weren't so prominent, but that's probably a gripe for a different board.

            @famdoc, I'd love to hear what you think about Luigi's. If you're a carnivore and you're in the market for a whole pie, Gio's Supreme is a killer choice. He shaves homemade sopressata (from the guy at A&S) onto the pie when it comes out of the oven. I can't even remember what else is on it, but it hardly matters. Onions...something else. Plus the fresh mozz pie is great too (available in slices too). Drizzled with his proprietary secret basil oil.... Yum.

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            Bob Martinez Oct 30, 2009 12:05 PM

            "Remember that endless and distructive Peppe's thread when the place opened?"

            You mean the one that started with people telling us it was the best pizza in the world?

            "I'm going to step out on a limb here and predict that Pepe's will become one of the city's most beloved pizza shops."

            And where I predicted that the early enthusiasm would fade and it would hardly get mentioned anymore?

            Guess who was right.

            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/462495

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            Peppe's
            597 4th Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11215

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              famdoc Oct 30, 2009 12:57 PM

              @hankyT: we're not meat eaters. I'll have to try the "plain" pie.

              @Bob Martinez: Peppe's is doing a fairly good business with regular clientele.
              I think Peppe was banking on the development of Fourth and Fifth Aves. The economic crisis certainly has somewhat slowed that development. His grandma's pie is still one of the best around.

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              Peppe's
              597 4th Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11215

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                Bob Martinez Oct 30, 2009 01:38 PM

                Yes indeed - it was you that I quoted as saying that Peppe's would soon become beloved.

                I never said that Peppe's was going to fail - I said it was overpraised and eventually the rapture would pass. I called it the Pizza Arc.

                http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/462495#3201936

                http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/4624...

                And that turned out to be *exactly* right. On the original thread there were 108 posts in a 4 month period, most of them wildly enthusiastic. I just did a search - do you know how many posts we've had about Peppe's in the last year?

                One.

                That's the Pizza Arc in action.

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                Peppe's
                597 4th Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11215

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                Pulpio Oct 30, 2009 02:04 PM

                I don't think Peppe's would have faded quite so quickly if hadn't lost its original piemaster within the first couple of months.

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                Peppe's
                597 4th Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11215

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                  HankyT Oct 30, 2009 02:26 PM

                  I like Peppe's and am glad they're still around. But that thread was astounding. It was like watching time lapse film of an animal decaying before your very eyes. It was a pile on, many -- maybe most-- very positive to be sure, but watching a restaurant get breathless buzz and then be picked apart in the space of several days was really something to behold. From belle of the ball to old hat in 60 seconds.

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                  Peppe's
                  597 4th Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11215

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                    Bob Martinez Oct 30, 2009 02:30 PM

                    Famdoc hasn't noticed a decline - "His grandma's pie is still one of the best around."

                    Sorry - I had both a grandma slice and a regular when the original Magic Pieman was still performing his miracles. The grandma was decent, nothing more, and the regular was outright bad. The place was overpraised.

                    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/4624...

                    People like to believe that the new DiFara's has just opened up around the corner. They fall head over heels in love for awhile. Then they come back to reality. It happened with Pizza on the Park, it happened with Tomato and Basil, and now it's happened with Peppe's. That doesn't mean that any of these places are bad, only that they're nowhere near as good as people initially think.

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                    Peppe's
                    597 4th Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11215

                    Tomato and Basil
                    226 4th Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11215

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                      noisejoke Oct 30, 2009 05:46 PM

                      Luigi's!

                      His supreme has peppers, and I never before even found them acceptable on a pizza, let alone loved the addition. Maybe it's the soppressata conquering all.
                      The sicilian slice has a wonderfully piquant sauce (Gio's father's or grandfather's - can't remember what he said), and probably some cheese I should find out about.
                      Anyway, Luigi's.
                      Also... Luigi's.

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              Amy Mintzer Oct 30, 2009 05:59 PM

              I have long thought that Roma on 7th and Berkeley had the best classic NY pizza in the nabe. We've been eating there and bring home their pizza for 20 years. Weirdly, they DIDN"T DELIVER until 7 or 8 years ago. But they do. Don't know what their delivery boundaries are. Love their fresh mozzarella pizza.

              1. kukubura Oct 31, 2009 07:54 AM

                Is Smiling still good? We used to order from them all the time back in the day...

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                  jen kalb Nov 2, 2009 01:06 PM

                  Huh? Smiling is terrible.

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                    kukubura Nov 3, 2009 03:42 AM

                    Well, I haven't had it for years. I used to like it when I lived in the area.

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                      Bob Martinez Nov 3, 2009 06:37 AM

                      I remember Smiling as being good in the early 1980s but by tghe 90s it became mediocre. Too bad.

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                  casspants Nov 2, 2009 12:37 PM

                  if you are in south slope, you must try Peppino's (5th Ave b/t 10th and 11th). i used to order from La Villa until we moved a few blocks south and discovered Peppino's.

                  it really is amazing pizza--great sauce, crust, ingredients, plus way more economical than La Villa. also, the staff is a lot friendlier.

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                  La Villa
                  261 5th Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11215

                  Peppino's
                  469 5th Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11215

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                    tompolley Nov 3, 2009 12:21 PM

                    Peppino's on 5th ave is fantastic: here's a shameless cut-n-paste of my review on Yelp:

                    I'm torn about writing this review: on the one hand, I don't want word to get out that Peppino's is great, and make it all crowded. On the other hand, I think business is currently a little slow, and and I don't want the best pizza in Park Slope to go under.

                    The pizza and sandwiches are both great. Dough is homemade, chewy, with a nice crispiness to the crust (obviously, it suffers a little in delivery, as all high-end pizza does. We ask for ours well-done when delivering). Most sandwiches come on bread made from the same dough as the pizza. Sauce is flavorful, chunky, well-spiced, and not at all sweet, which I hate. Cheese is very good, with actual flavor, as opposed to the rubbery fatwads lots of pizza places use. Toppings are high-quality, and they don't skimp.

                    Is this the best pizza in New York? No. Is it the best pizza in Park Slope? Definitely. I hope you agree: just don't be sitting in my seat when I get there. : )

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                    Peppino's
                    469 5th Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11215

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