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  <id>662611</id>
  <title>Really Great Granolas?</title>
  <published_at>Tue Oct 27 07:18:53 -0700 2009</published_at>
  <post_count>37</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>27</id>
    <name>General Chowhounding Topics</name>
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    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>5134100</id>
        <content>I'm going to be holding a granola tasting (I'll post findings here afterward) and would like suggestions of brands. I plan on including all of the following. Are any of them lame? Any great brands missing? Also let me know if there's a clear flavor winner for any of these brands (e.g. I know a lot of people prefer Early Bird's "Aloha").

I'd like to only include particularly good granolas, not any "pretty good" ones!

Galaxy Granola
Bob's Red Mill Old Country Style Muesli
Udi's Granola
Heartland Granola Cereal
Bakery on Main gluten-free
Kashi Mountain Medley Granola Cereal
Breadshop's Organic Granola
Early bird granola 
Bear Naked
Ola Granola

Oh, and suggestions for tiny regional brands are also welcome....I'll just mail order them.</content>
        <published_at>Tue Oct 27 07:18:53 -0700 2009</published_at>
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        <user>
          <id>10089</id>
          <name>Jim Leff</name>
        </user>
      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5135258</id>
      <content>adding:
Honey Oat and Cinnamon Pecan from "The Baker" (who does cardboardy breads, but, I hear, good granola)</content>
      <published_at>Tue Oct 27 13:19:03 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5134100</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10089</id>
        <name>Jim Leff</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5135291</id>
      <content>Yes, I was going to suggest you add "The Baker's" granola, until I saw your second post.  :)

I don't know all those brands you listed.  Of those I've had:

Bakers is best, 
Galaxy pretty good, 
Bear Naked average,
Breadshop subpar.

I wish I could find some good ones that didn't cost upwards of $5 a pound!

If I think of some others, I'll jump in again!

One thing that's a big issue with me is the level of toasting.  If there isn't any nutty, toasty thing going on, granolas are too blah for me.  And there has to be an interesting mix of grains, nuts, seeds, maybe a little fruit...</content>
      <published_at>Tue Oct 27 13:32:02 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5135258</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>124191</id>
        <name>comestible</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>5135457</id>
      <content>Thanks. I'll delete breadshop. I don't like Bear Naked at all, but so many people do that I felt obliged to include them. 

For purposes of this tasting, "money is no object", though I agree that the pricing on some of these brands is outrageous....</content>
      <published_at>Tue Oct 27 14:34:43 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5135291</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10089</id>
        <name>Jim Leff</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>5136684</id>
      <content>IMO the best Bear Naked is the fruit &amp; nut.  the other flavors are just not very good.  But I would put that up there as a "great" granola.

I think the snacking granola from Whole Foods is also very good.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Oct 28 04:52:08 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5135457</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>19518</id>
        <name>rockandroller1</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>5140109</id>
      <content>I think fruit and nut is the one I never tried. So that'll be the one we taste!

Is the snacking granola under Whole Foods' own brand?</content>
      <published_at>Thu Oct 29 08:47:01 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5136684</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10089</id>
        <name>Jim Leff</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>6</level>
      <id>5141972</id>
      <content>the chocolate one is actually pretty tasty....</content>
      <published_at>Thu Oct 29 20:40:09 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5140109</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>264146</id>
        <name>kubasd</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>6</level>
      <id>5151953</id>
      <content>Yes, it's their brand.  I've tried several other snacking granolas but they are all lacking IMO.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 03 08:53:09 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5140109</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>19518</id>
        <name>rockandroller1</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5135873</id>
      <content>I love Bakers Granola, but have had a problem with rancid ingredients 3 times in the past year. I think their quality control is going downhill and I no longer think it is worth the 5 bucks a bag.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Oct 27 17:28:26 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5135258</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>110306</id>
        <name>NE_Elaine</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>5136587</id>
      <content>Rancidity is a huge problem all over, especially with natural foods containing no preservatives. And, worse, there's so much rancidity out there that consumers don't perceive mild rancidity as an "off" flavor; it's one they're used to. </content>
      <published_at>Wed Oct 28 01:50:00 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5135873</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10089</id>
        <name>Jim Leff</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>5137174</id>
      <content>That's really disappointing in a granola from a regional maker, where you'd think the manufacturing/distribution cycle is easy to control.  Is that because of QC or is it that the stores are keeping the product on the shelf too long?  (I've seen that problem at my local health food store.)</content>
      <published_at>Wed Oct 28 08:30:38 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5135873</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>124191</id>
        <name>comestible</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>5140122</id>
      <content>When I said "Rancidity is a huge problem all over", I meant all food products containing nuts, not just granola. Trader Joe's cereals with nuts are often a bit rancid, and I taste/smell rancidity all over. I think most consumers are actually well-acquainted with that aroma, but just don't identify it correctly (same with skunky beer....for many people, that's "the great imported taste" of Heineken, in those green bottles that let in the frequency of light that interacts badly with the hops). 

Not sure what it is; I'd imagine different factors affect different products, but shelf life is surely one of them. We've shelf-stabilized so many different things, but nuts (at least ones that aren't vacuum packed, irradiated, etc) are just nuts....</content>
      <published_at>Thu Oct 29 08:51:42 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5137174</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10089</id>
        <name>Jim Leff</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5135500</id>
      <content>Made to Crave Granola is like crack.  

http://madetocrave.foodzie.com/</content>
      <published_at>Tue Oct 27 14:51:17 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5134100</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11583</id>
        <name>ipsedixit</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5135526</id>
      <content>Not sure if this counts, but the Costco bakery department makes an awesome, addictive snacking granola (it's probably super high calorie, even by granola standards).</content>
      <published_at>Tue Oct 27 15:03:24 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5134100</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10832</id>
        <name>Humbucker</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5135584</id>
      <content>ipsedixit, thanks, great, "crack-like" is what I'm looking for (I have a verifiable problem with Ola Granola). Can you recommend a stand-out flavor?

Humbucker, how much variation is there between Costco stores and regions? I'm in the NYC area.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Oct 27 15:27:58 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5135526</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10089</id>
        <name>Jim Leff</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>5135633</id>
      <content>The basic old fashioned and maple pecan are the flavors I've tried.  I'm tempted to try the pumpkin when my "stash" runs out. </content>
      <published_at>Tue Oct 27 15:50:03 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5135584</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11583</id>
        <name>ipsedixit</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>5135711</id>
      <content>I'm in the San Francisco bay area, but I think I've also seen it in a Toronto area Costco, so the NYC stores might have it.

Here's a picture I found on Flickr:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gsisante/419117827/

The granola comes in a large plastic tub and can usually be found near the cakes and pies in the bakery dept.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Oct 27 16:20:02 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5135584</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10832</id>
        <name>Humbucker</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>5162115</id>
      <content>Agree. I love that Costco granola and didn't realize they still made it. I also agree that it's probably intensely caloric but it's tasty.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Nov 06 15:08:55 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5135711</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12268</id>
        <name>mollyomormon</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5138065</id>
      <content>http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/631246

A few Ch recs.

My vote: http://www.granolajo.com/
a toss up btwn the honey &amp; the caramel apple.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Oct 28 13:11:37 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5134100</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>36312</id>
        <name>HillJ</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5140131</id>
      <content>Thanks!!</content>
      <published_at>Thu Oct 29 08:53:10 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5138065</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10089</id>
        <name>Jim Leff</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>5146367</id>
      <content>http://www.ouichefnetwork.com/oui_chef/2009/06/granola.html#more

Granola recipe via Oui Chef</content>
      <published_at>Sun Nov 01 04:54:17 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5140131</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>36312</id>
        <name>HillJ</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5140699</id>
      <content>I like Kashi's Cocoa Beach also, though it only feels sorta like eating granola. Not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing. 

And I hate being one of those people who responds to a thread asking for the best and responding 'homemade!', but, um, yeah, I guess I am that guy today. This is a solid starter recipe, though I substitute the maple syrup for honey to increase clumping, and add an extra cup of nuts (usually pecans) and a TBL of cinnamon and  a pinch of nutmeg, also, probably an extra 1/2-3/4 cup of dried fruit (I'm partial towards some combination of blueberries, cherries, cranberries and super-plump raisins)

http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/Almond-Raisin-Granola-102619
</content>
      <published_at>Thu Oct 29 11:34:56 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5134100</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10118</id>
        <name>joypirate</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5140968</id>
      <content>I have been really enjoying the Cascadian Farms granola, specifically the maple brown sugar one.  http://www.cascadianfarm.com/

It has a good texture and the maple brown sugar is not overpowering. Plus, if you have it with milk, the milk turns a nice and sweet nutty brown afterwards. Tasty...</content>
      <published_at>Thu Oct 29 13:13:12 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5134100</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>135338</id>
        <name>mcap</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5143494</id>
      <content>http://www.lovegrownfoods.com/</content>
      <published_at>Fri Oct 30 12:12:25 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5134100</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>75862</id>
        <name>newfoodie</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5145466</id>
      <content>I recently discovered Lizi's Organic Granola in England which says it is blood sugar friendly and the glycemic load is 6g glucose equivalent per serving.  It also won a great taste gold award this year. The ingredients are:-  jumbo rolled oats, rapeseed oil, agave syrup, dessicated coconut, concentrated apple juice, pumpkin seed, black treacle, pistachio nuts, cashew nuts, flaked almonds, golden linseeds, sunflower seeds and hazelnuts.  I love it and have it with skimmed milk in the morning.      If you can find it there I think it's worth a try.  The website is www.lizis.co.uk.    </content>
      <published_at>Sat Oct 31 13:41:04 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5134100</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>213547</id>
        <name>cathodetube</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5146124</id>
      <content>Thanks. Apparently this used to be available at Whole Foods and at Westerly Health Foods in Manhattan. I'll give a call Monday and see if it's still available.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Oct 31 21:19:44 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5145466</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10089</id>
        <name>Jim Leff</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5145871</id>
      <content>I usually find granola to be one of the world's most overrated foodstuffs, but a while back the NY Times printed an article on, and recipe for, a slightly salty granola made with olive oil. I tried the recipe and WOW! Amazing stuff--I've been making a batch a week ever since.  (How good is it? The one time the whole bunch of it got inexplicably stuck to the baking sheet I baked it on, my husband spent a good half hour scraping all of it off, so as not to waste a bit of it!)

Relevant for your purposes is the fact that the recipe is based on a commercially available product, as noted in the Times article; here's a link:

http://earlybirdfoods.com/generalstore.html

Looking forward to the results of your taste test!</content>
      <published_at>Sat Oct 31 17:44:36 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5134100</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>19120</id>
        <name>Piglet</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5146125</id>
      <content>Thanks, but see my original posting....early bird is on the list!

Do you have a link to the Times recipe by any chance?</content>
      <published_at>Sat Oct 31 21:20:45 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5145871</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10089</id>
        <name>Jim Leff</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>5146331</id>
      <content>Oops, my bad... should have read the original post more carefully! Here's a link to the Times recipe; have fun with it!

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/dining/151arex.html</content>
      <published_at>Sun Nov 01 04:22:30 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5146125</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>19120</id>
        <name>Piglet</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5147814</id>
      <content>Okay, I'm a granola conniseur, and these are the two best in the entire world:

(1) The Four Seasons Mexico City: housemade and unavailable unless you're staying there.

(2) The granola sold at the tiny but sublime Busy Bee Bakery in Inverness, California.  Can't find a website but phone is 415.663.9496.  The granola's got a fantastic mix of oats and nuts and is super-toasted and -carmelized.  They sell it by the bag so I bet you could get them to send some.  We bring bags home every time we visit, and then apportion it strictly so it lasts as long as possible.

Enjoy!</content>
      <published_at>Sun Nov 01 17:18:59 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5134100</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>21169</id>
        <name>DC in DC</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5148238</id>
      <content>I've actually had the granola at the Four Seasons -- in fact, I was able to request for dinner on a couple of occasions. 

It was indeed quite good, but I found it achingly sweet, almost like crumbled oatmeal cookies ... which is why I requested it for dinner ... it made for the perfect dessert with some of the in-house Champurrado!</content>
      <published_at>Sun Nov 01 21:58:49 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5147814</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11583</id>
        <name>ipsedixit</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>5150943</id>
      <content>That's so interesting; sweet must be in the eye (mouth?) of the beholder.  I myself can't stand most commercial granolas because they're so sickeningly sweet - and I found the Four Seasons' nuttiness a nice change.  But to each her own...</content>
      <published_at>Mon Nov 02 19:25:05 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5148238</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>21169</id>
        <name>DC in DC</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>5151337</id>
      <content>DC in DC, I agree with you and all too often I find commercial granola stale.  Even  homemade granola has a window of freshness that is short.  Which is why my family and I prefer small batches when purchased or made from scratch.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 03 04:12:57 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5150943</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>36312</id>
        <name>HillJ</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5151958</id>
      <content>"unavailable unless you're staying there..."

I bet if you called and asked for the recipe, they'd give it to you. Or someone like the T&amp;L Ombudsman could get it; do they still do that?</content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 03 08:54:33 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5147814</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>19518</id>
        <name>rockandroller1</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5160582</id>
      <content>I second Udi's Granola. We LOVE their simply almond vanilla and miss it terrible -- its hard to find in Seattle. We used to score it in bulk at Central Market in Dallas. We haven't found a great replacement, especially at a reasonable price.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Nov 06 07:14:56 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5134100</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>52088</id>
        <name>huruta</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5160937</id>
      <content>Worth looking at mail ordering Big Sky bakeries granola(Portland, ME)- totally delicious, best I've had in the vein of "traditional" granola- grains, nuts, lightly sweetened...they mail out after they make it on Thursdays...gave as gifts last year. Both crunchy and chewy, nice rich buttery flavor, big clumps.  It keeps really well and is as  good out of hand and as it is as a breakfast cereal with milk, yogurt, fruit...</content>
      <published_at>Fri Nov 06 09:00:23 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5134100</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>140744</id>
        <name>Bunnyfood</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5161537</id>
      <content>If you want a truly great granola make it yourself.  Use grape seed oil instead of butter to minimize the cholesterol and maple syrup instead of honey.  I add flaxseeds (some like them crushed) and walnut or hazelnuts...A little nutmeg, a little cinnamon,  It's all good.  Trust me it tastes so much better than the store bought stuff and it makes your house smell delicious. </content>
      <published_at>Fri Nov 06 12:15:15 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5134100</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>171214</id>
        <name>spm</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5192333</id>
      <content>Ok, I held the tasting. See results here:
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/668169</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 18 13:45:16 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5134100</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10089</id>
        <name>Jim Leff</name>
      </user>
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