662310 Sun Oct 25 22:44:17 -0700 2009 30 33 Food Media and News 0 5130842 Watch it here. http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid10032373001?bctid=45959820001 Sun Oct 25 22:44:17 -0700 2009 11583 ipsedixit 1 5130937 ...wow, I knew I didn't really like her. I mean, a can of generic soup vs a can of Campbell's is one thing (I can't say I'd eat either), but... a can of supermarket carrots or, god forbid, a bag of frozen supermarket veggies or fish or something isn't going to taste any different from the national brands. *rolls eyes* I'd rather save money buying generic mushrooms, cream and spices than buying an icky premade can of mushroom soup. Mon Oct 26 02:50:39 -0700 2009 5130842 228592 HJSoulma 2 5134616 I'm not going to watch it, specifically because it's *her*. But a can of generic supermarket brand soup *is* often the exact same thing as a can of a name brand - they're often made for that chain in the same place and by the same company that cans/packages the national brand. http://www.stretcher.com/stories/981221a.cfm " Store Brands Are a Matter of Taste In the "Tightwad Gazette" books Amy has an article about store brands vs. name brands. Somtimes they honestly just use different packaging for the same product. (Afterall, the stores have to get thier products from some manufacturer already in business)." And who are you going to believe - Shamdra or Consumer Reports on whether generic tastes better than national name brands? http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/magazine-archive/october-2009/shopping/buying-store-brands/overview/buying-store-brands-ov.htm "If concern about taste has kept you from trying store-brand foods, hesitate no more. In blind tests, our trained tasters compared a big national brand with a store brand in 29 food categories. Store and national brands tasted about equally good 19 times. Four times, the store brand won; six times, the national brand won. " Tue Oct 27 10:04:08 -0700 2009 5130937 10532 LindaWhit 3 5141668 I really like Shop Rite supermarket brand products. Better than name brands at 2/3 price. Everything from Nutella like chocolate hazelnut spread to Oreo cookie like chocolate cream sandwich cookies to European style baked crackers. Thu Oct 29 17:52:51 -0700 2009 5134616 323958 dach 1 5132835 Wow. What she said was irritating on so many levels. That 70/30 thing just blew my mind: 70 percent of the stuff in the store is package goods, so according to her that means that's the percentage of packaged goods we should buy!? As opposed to 30 percent meat, dairy and produce!!!!!!!? Wouldn't every other sane person -- including every home economist/nutritionist who says "shop the perimeter of the store" -- say it would be the other way around? But let's be real: she doesn't like generics because they don't sponsor her show and her other endeavours. Mon Oct 26 15:55:23 -0700 2009 5130842 10159 Ruth Lafler 1 5134188 "But let's not be unpleasant because it's time for ... COCKTAILS!" Tue Oct 27 07:50:46 -0700 2009 5130842 113176 jmckee 1 5135330 Crazy old drunk. So now she considers herself a chef? Doesn't she have an endorsement deal with Smirnoff? Tue Oct 27 13:44:51 -0700 2009 5130842 23758 Withnail42 1 5135645 Out magazine did a feature on Sandy and "her gays" a couple of months ago that was kind of funny: http://out.com/detail.asp?id=25657 Tue Oct 27 15:54:46 -0700 2009 5130842 10705 deibu 2 5141579 Sandra and Pat Robertson... think of what the babies would be like... Thu Oct 29 17:05:46 -0700 2009 5135645 54744 rozz01 3 5156818 she's been there http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvO0I14C8uM Wed Nov 04 18:16:56 -0800 2009 5141579 206109 pamf 4 5159679 Yeah... she talked about that in regards to her no bigotry stance in the OUT article. All seems duplicitous to me... Thu Nov 05 17:57:12 -0800 2009 5156818 54744 rozz01 1 5135690 "Go to the grocery store and pick up a generic branded can of cream of mushroom or cream of broccoli soup and then put that next to a can of a national name brand soup and just LOOK at the difference. There's NO WAY you would use a generic brand. There is no way. After you take it out and look at it. Not gonna happen." Um. They both look gray and goopy. Yuk. Tue Oct 27 16:11:03 -0700 2009 5130842 173425 Jen76 2 5136983 The difference being that she's got a big endorsement deal's worth or reasons to decide to see the Campbell's soup as better. Wed Oct 28 07:34:08 -0700 2009 5135690 11781 beachmouse 1 5136771 Nothing to be surprised about when you consider the source. I'm pretty sure it's well established that this woman has zero cooking talent. I find the stuff she creates is nothing short of offensive. The bigger insult comes from FN for trying to pass off this talentless hack as an expert in anything! Anyone that reads a Betty Crocker cookbook has more knowlege on food than this woman. I think one of the most memorable events came from an episode years ago when she seeded a chipotle in adobo sauce. I knew at that moment that she had no idea about a food, and absolutely no knowledge of cooking. Wed Oct 28 05:54:05 -0700 2009 5130842 222865 FoodChic 2 5137175 And yet somehow she continues to have a show on TFN, and continues to sell "cookbooks". So someone is buying her pap. It boggles the mind. Wed Oct 28 08:30:41 -0700 2009 5136771 10532 LindaWhit 1 5137256 Well, if you browse through her cookbooks (I wouldn't recommend actually buying them), you'll see that every ingredient called for in her recipes is associated with a brand name. Every single ingredient. Wed Oct 28 09:06:26 -0700 2009 5130842 10246 choctastic 2 5137279 I want to know how this woman can get in front of a camera and spout this garbage. I don't care how much money she's making, she should have some integrity. Passing off prepackaged food that is full of high fructose corn syrup, hydrogenated oils, and artifical flavoring as healthy foods is not only insulting, but it's downright fraud. I guess when you're shacking up with the executive producer of the network those things don't matter. Wed Oct 28 09:21:14 -0700 2009 5137256 222865 FoodChic 3 5137843 What's funny is that she passes off all that stuff as "good" food but then looks down at store brands. All she is doing is reprocessing processed foods. Wed Oct 28 12:08:11 -0700 2009 5137279 39874 chowser 3 5156889 That's old news, lately she's been shacking up with the New York State Attorney General. Who has aspirations to be governor and perhaps one day POTUS. http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/ag_andrew_dating_foodie_E9FSzbGCIhEn9hZhSpwVwI Wed Nov 04 18:42:58 -0800 2009 5137279 206109 pamf 3 5157236 (Note: this is in response to chowser) Well, that's the point...the irony of it, I mean. She's concerned enough about quality that she would never recommend generics, and yet on her new show she habitually recommends fattier cuts of meat because they cost less. (Although, ultimately, they really don't, when you factor in all the cardiovascular specialists' bills due to the saturated fat content of her recommendations.) The way I try to approach it generally is to buy smaller amounts of leaner meats and augment them with veggies and grains. I still save money, and I'm not premeditatedly killing my family. But back to the subject of generics. I've had occasion twice in the past two weeks to cook a national brand of chicken, whose name everybody knows. I bought it because it was on a three-for-one sale. After having it again, I'm reminded why I stopped buying it several years ago, in favor of the storebrand chicken. The national brand has, like, NO taste! The cheaper storebrand has tons of flavor and is meatier and plumper, too. On the other hand, there are some things in which I have a preference for a specific name brand, and in those instances, the generic (and even other name brands) just don't cut it. So people really need to be willing to at least try different brands, including generics, once and then figure out which one they prefer. Wed Nov 04 22:19:11 -0800 2009 5137279 1104013 Normandie 1 5157410 At least one of her fundamental premises is flawed. She says that because 70% of the store shelf space consists of the inner aisles with packaged products and 30% of the outer rim with fresh goods, that means that the same ratio holds for home pantries. Not true. The inner shelves takes up more spaces because there are more brands and also there are aisles of things like dog food, toilet paper and window cleaner. A typical grocery store has an entire side of one aisle just for dry cereal and probably a fifth or less of that for meat. That's because there are a multitude of choices, varieties and brands of dry cereal and it's not the same for meat. Also, cereal can stay on the shelf for a long time and the packaging takes up a lot of space. It does not mean that people have five times as much cereal at home as they have meat. Not when measured by mass, or by cost. The only possibly way is if it's measured by volume and that would mostly be the empty air in the cereal boxes and only for people that eat a whole lot of cereal. I know the ground rules for this site say less bashing of TV show hosts, but this is a really ignorant statement from her. Thu Nov 05 04:31:55 -0800 2009 5130842 248284 taos 2 5157484 It might be bashing but her logic doesn't stand. There's some irony in someone who produces the Kwanzaa cake and then turns her nose up at generics. Thu Nov 05 04:54:18 -0800 2009 5157410 39874 chowser 2 5157559 A typical grocery store has an entire side of one aisle just for dry cereal and probably a fifth or less of that for meat. ~~~~~~~~ I'll have to disagree on that. Almost all supermarkets in my area have 3/4 of the back of the store devoted to meat and seafood, and the rest of that space is a combination of dairy and juices. A good bit more space than the cereal aisle. But either way - just the whole idea of Sandra Lee's reason for being on television is flawed, and I really cannot believe she actually sells advertising dollars and/or her cookbooks. It still boggles the mind. Thu Nov 05 05:52:52 -0800 2009 5157410 10532 LindaWhit 3 5158228 You know, though, she's laughing all the way to the bank. Thu Nov 05 09:54:17 -0800 2009 5157559 39874 chowser 4 5158231 Which disgusts me even more. P.T. Barnum comes to mind........ Thu Nov 05 09:55:00 -0800 2009 5158228 10532 LindaWhit 5 5158249 Yeah. Although, I have to say I was impressed the other day when I was flipping through the TV and saw her spatchcock a chicken. Good for her for teaching her viewers to use a whole chicken. I don't know what she did with it, though. Thu Nov 05 09:59:18 -0800 2009 5158231 39874 chowser 6 5158292 Probably covered it with corn nuts. :-P Thu Nov 05 10:11:36 -0800 2009 5158249 10532 LindaWhit 6 5159674 The editing is amazing. You watch her screw something up, different camera cut and then it's perfect Thu Nov 05 17:56:02 -0800 2009 5158249 54744 rozz01 6 5160616 Last time I saw SL handle raw meat of the show she used the tips her figers as if she was disgusted by the whole process. It really stuck with me. Fri Nov 06 07:25:53 -0800 2009 5158249 10195 KTinNYC 3 5177139 LindaWhit - I was comparing meat and packaged cereal, not meat, seafood, poultry, sushi, the deli counter, and whatever else is back there to cereal. Just meat. Your grocery store may differ but if so, it's not typical. Thu Nov 12 16:29:12 -0800 2009 5157559 248284 taos 4 5177209 Your grocery store may differ but if so, it's not typical. ~~~~~~~~~ I think "typical" might be dependent on where you live, taos. ALL supermarkets, where I've lived (Northern NJ, central PA, and in the Boston area) have a meat area much bigger than the cereal aisle. And all I've seen when I've traveled (Chicago, Seattle, Los Angeles, Richmond, Charlotte, and probably a few others) are the same way. Thu Nov 12 16:54:55 -0800 2009 5177139 10532 LindaWhit