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  <id>662280</id>
  <title>Food You Can Only Get In NYC?</title>
  <published_at>Sun Oct 25 18:28:56 -0700 2009</published_at>
  <post_count>24</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>18</id>
    <name>Manhattan</name>
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    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>5130412</id>
        <content>I am going to be in new york for only two days (sat/sun) for work and want to focus on foods that I can only get in NYC or that are best in New York. I am from San Francisco so have access to a lot of great Asian, Mexican and Central American restaurants so am looking for something a little different while in the Big Apple. Many thanks!</content>
        <published_at>Sun Oct 25 18:28:56 -0700 2009</published_at>
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        <user>
          <id>80723</id>
          <name>lexvegas</name>
        </user>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5130441</id>
      <content>there is a really similar post floating around out there somewhere - it is called "don't leave NYC without eating..." or something like that - has tons of info!</content>
      <published_at>Sun Oct 25 18:42:06 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5130412</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>119220</id>
        <name>pizzajunkie</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5130445</id>
      <content>thanks very much - will look for it.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Oct 25 18:43:12 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5130441</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>80723</id>
        <name>lexvegas</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5130457</id>
      <content>This link will allow you to see NYC menus by location and cuisine.  The city is a United Nations of restaurants so you'll be able to find anything that strikes your fancy.  Last time I was there we went to Spoonbread and had memorable Southern food.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Oct 25 18:50:55 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5130412</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>159317</id>
        <name>greygarious</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5130715</id>
      <content>Katz's for pastrami (and please don't go in there and order a turkey sandwich!) Would also say smoked fish (Barney Greengrass, Zabar's, Russ &amp; Daughters), maybe knishes and even hot dogs (Gray's Papaya).  The other thing I think of as "different" in NYC is our bread products -- bagels &amp; pizza.  Must be the water!  

Maybe you have this in SF, but I love how eclectic a single street can be here.  On St Mark's (I think) there's a block with a dumpling place, and a hummus place, etc., all different "specialties" all in one area.  Or in the West Village, you'll find Murray's Cheese, Amy's Bread, Cones Ice Cream, and John's Pizza, all within a block or two.  Find a block like that and eat from one end to the next!</content>
      <published_at>Sun Oct 25 20:56:05 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5130412</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>23719</id>
        <name>JMJD</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5133073</id>
      <content>I like  JMJD;s choices,,,interestingly alot of people  from outside New York never  heard of a knish,,, katz's round knishes are more to my taste than the  square ones,,, and up the street is  Yonah Shimmel's  who used to ge famous for knishes.  A Sabrett hot dog from the umbrella stands on the street is worth trying. Go to Gem Spa on  St mark's place and get a  New York egg cream ( soft drink),,,,, In addition to gray's  , I like Papaya King.  Definitely have  pizza here, there is no pizza in  SF that compares to  NY pizza.  Depending on the type of pizza you like, Chowhounders  all have their  favorite different places... but there is  regular  good Ol  nyc  slice pizza ,,for that I recommend  Ben's on spring st.  For  thin crust pie  I like  Lombardi,,,but  definitely try the pizza at  Grand Daisy or Sullivan St  especially the potato pizza.   Pierogies at  Ukrainian home or  even Veselka ,,i dont think they have those  out West.  A PorterHouse steak at  Peter Luger  or if in manhattan  maybe Wolfgangs,,,,Do you have  falaffel  in SF i dont recall if not try one here,,,,,Definitely  get  a  fresh Bialy  at teh bakery on  GrandSt  off Essex  i forget the name,  Ny bagels are the best too maybe at  H&amp;H, Chopped liver  from Katz's, or  egg barley  from 2nd ave deli,  You may have sushi in  california  but   on W4th st  there is  sushi with  west indian flavors at  Aki, the chef is japanese but was a chef  in  I think Jamaica for  several years,  Try a Pinelle  from  Fernando's(italian chick pea fritter), Shoe leather  and  halvah  from russ and daughters,  a Sour pickle from Gus's,  Rugalach from  Russ and  daughter or  zabars, A burger at  Big Nick's, its real  NY diner  "hamburger hamburger" a  definite ny experience, If it were summer  on  the lower east side you can get a scraped ice with syrup from  hispanic street cart,  If you see  Tate's chocolate chip cookies in a store  (formerly Kathleen's from  the Hampton's)  try  them they are different and   amazingly good, Try some curry goat or  oxtails  at Golden Crust ( there are better but these are good) I dont think you have that type of food in SF,  Enjoy</content>
      <published_at>Mon Oct 26 17:33:39 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5130715</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>118604</id>
        <name>foodwhisperer</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>5136551</id>
      <content>I think SF does have some solidly good pizza. What it doesn't have is coal-fired pizza. For that, I do not recommend Lombardi's (SF has better pizza than that) but do recommend Patsy's in East Harlem or Arturo's on Houston St. in the Village.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Oct 28 00:57:27 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5133073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>17058</id>
        <name>Pan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5134327</id>
      <content>There was an article in the Jerusalem Post recently about efforts to preserve the traditional deli. It mentioned that pastrama was a method of cooking poultry in Romania. Beef was available in the US. So the method was adapted to pastrami. So pastrami is native to NYC in this way. Similarly, corned beef was adopted by Irish immigrants. 

The quality of NYC bagels and pizza have been attributed to the quality of the drinking water supply. 

Does anybody make egg creams? This is a drink of milk, vanilla syrup and seltzer primarily.

Oyster Bar at Grand Central Station.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Oct 27 08:40:35 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5130715</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>268231</id>
        <name>MahatmaKanejeeves</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>5135309</id>
      <content>The egg cream is the quintessential NYC drink.  It is made with *chocolate* syrup (Fox's U-bet being the chocolate syrup of choice), milk, and seltzer. Other syrup flavors, like vanilla, can be used.  But chocolate is traditional.  

Ray's Candy Store, Gem Spa, and the Times Square location of Junior's are places which, imo, make excellent egg creams.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Oct 27 13:36:58 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5134327</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13867</id>
        <name>RGR</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>5137028</id>
      <content>Vanilla is just as traditional as chocolate.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Oct 28 07:49:52 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5135309</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12484</id>
        <name>MVNYC</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5130724</id>
      <content>Halal chicken/rice. </content>
      <published_at>Sun Oct 25 21:00:43 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5130412</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10509</id>
        <name>E Eto</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5135254</id>
      <content>An enthusiastic seconding of this suggestion.  Halal lamb/chicken rice carts are unique, delicious and inexpensive.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Oct 27 13:18:32 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5130724</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10131</id>
        <name>Chandavkl</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5131580</id>
      <content>Don't Leave NY Without Eating...
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/610739

Best pizza
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/648483#4988973

NYC for visitors:
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/597021
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/610107
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/604369
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/605545
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/603298
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/589834

I highly recommend RGR's self guided Lower East Side Gustatory tour:
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/493333

Best brunch:
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/598414

Best street food:
http://nymag.com/restaurants/features/33527/
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/653353
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/636263

See also midtownlunch.com and streetvendor.org/vendys for the Vendy awards.

Best of the Union Square Greenmarket 
M, W, F, S, 8am-6pm, but earlier is better, Saturdays are biggest
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/549751

Best foodie shopping:
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/585538
http://www.chow.com/lists/edit/33
http://www.chow.com/lists/edit/924

Best chocolatiers:
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/645011</content>
      <published_at>Mon Oct 26 09:10:03 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5130412</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10936</id>
        <name>kathryn</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5132174</id>
      <content>Thank you so much for all the great advice!</content>
      <published_at>Mon Oct 26 12:04:49 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5131580</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>80723</id>
        <name>lexvegas</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>5132268</id>
      <content>You're welcome! BTW if you're looking for good Neopolitan style pie I really have loved my two visits to Motorino East Village. </content>
      <published_at>Mon Oct 26 12:34:59 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5132174</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10936</id>
        <name>kathryn</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5133628</id>
      <content>Ray's on Ave. A by Tompkins Square Park for an egg cream
Pastrami at Second Avenue Deli
Kossar's for bialys , then go down the block and get some donuts at the donut plant (not necessarily "new york style", but you won't find most of the flavors anywhere else)
Sable (fish) at Russ and Daughters

Momofuku pork buns (the style of bun is not exclusive to NYC, but it's a delicious signature dish)
Momofuku Milk Bar compost cookie

Do you have good porchetta in SF? If not, I'd get a sandwich at Porchetta, it comes on a wonderful local Sullivan Street Bakery roll
</content>
      <published_at>Mon Oct 26 21:57:16 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5130412</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>132418</id>
        <name>hungrycomposer</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5135963</id>
      <content>Second the Momofuku compost cookie. And their crack pie!

Also, don't miss the Chocolate Show from Friday, Oct. 30 to Sunday, Nov. 1
http://www.chocolateshow.com/home.php?titre=2&amp;id_code=2

And the 50 Best Dishes in NY thread might be of interest
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/443609

Have a great visit!</content>
      <published_at>Tue Oct 27 18:03:11 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5133628</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1093353</id>
        <name>fm1963</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>5136407</id>
      <content>Thank you all - this is great.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Oct 27 21:40:47 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5135963</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>80723</id>
        <name>lexvegas</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5136556</id>
      <content>Katz's is better for pastrami, unless you insist on really lean pastrami, in which case, 2nd Av. Deli might be better. 2nd Av. Deli also has good tongue sandwiches, but wow are they expensive!</content>
      <published_at>Wed Oct 28 00:59:06 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5133628</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>17058</id>
        <name>Pan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>5137135</id>
      <content>The only time I've gotten lean pastrami from 2nd Ave. deli it was tough and not very tasty.  I always request it "rich, not lean, sliced thin".  If you compare fatty pastrami at Katz's with lean pastrami at 2nd Ave., Katz's will win.  If you compare the good fatty stuff at both places, I think 2nd ave. will come out on top.  Visiting both and comparing the two would be a real local experience.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Oct 28 08:15:06 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5136556</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>132418</id>
        <name>hungrycomposer</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>5139473</id>
      <content>My experience is otherwise: Katz's wins. And my preference is always for juicy pastrami. It's my mother who orders it lean.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Oct 29 00:33:35 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5137135</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>17058</id>
        <name>Pan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>5142115</id>
      <content>To be honest, it's been ages since I went to Katz's, and I haven't been to the new 2nd Ave Deli, maybe the quality has changed. God forbid I should stray north of 14th street, I seem to be in a perpetual state of composer house arrest and don't leave the neighborhood (E Vill.)</content>
      <published_at>Thu Oct 29 22:53:50 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5139473</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>132418</id>
        <name>hungrycomposer</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>6</level>
      <id>5143654</id>
      <content>Yeah, that goes back several years. It might be time to either go back to Katz's and try the new location of 2nd Av. Deli or retire that opinion. :-)</content>
      <published_at>Fri Oct 30 13:19:32 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5142115</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>17058</id>
        <name>Pan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5137616</id>
      <content>Faicco's is an Italian Deli in Greenwich Village.  Their rice balls and their Italian Sub seem very NYC.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Oct 28 10:59:41 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5130412</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>14446</id>
        <name>NAtiveNewYorker</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5153893</id>
      <content>Peter Luger's Brooklyn, bring lots of cash.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 03 19:24:27 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5137616</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1120007</id>
        <name>drosstogold</name>
      </user>
    </post>
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