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Top Chef - Las Vegas - Ep. #9 - Restaurant Wars! - 10/21/09 (Spoilers)

Rick Moonen is guest judge; QuickFire is a TagTeam cookoff. Jen and Michael are "captains":

Jen's team is Kevin, Mike I., and Laurine
Michael's team is Bryan, Eli and Robin

Each team member is blindfolded and one team member cooks alone (without speaking) until they're done and the next team member comes up to cook during the next 10 minutes. They are *not* allowed to discuss the dish while choosing in what order they cook.

Michael and Bryan are last for each of their teams. Kevin veered off of how Jennifer started their dish off, and Michael is taking his team's dish way differently. Ought to be interesting.

Most surprising to me was Robin cooking after Eli - and actually realizing where Eli was going and continuing in his thought pattern. Interesting. Not sure that'll help her standing with Eli, but she's smarter than Eli thinks.

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  1. i LOVE this QF idea. it's really fun!

    and as much as i dislike Eli, his comment about Robin's cooking style being "somewhere East of Mars" seriously had me LMAO.

    happy to see Moomen as a guest judge. i was really bummed that his stint on TC Masters was so short-lived.

    ETA: another thing i forgot to say about the QF...i swear, if Bryan does one more foam, air or emulsion i'm gonna SCREAM!!! seriously, enough already.

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    1. re: goodhealthgourmet

      Interesting comment from Moonen - "this is like a game of telephone; you just have to leave clues along the way." HUGE compliments to Jen's dish and the inclusion of shrimp in her stock! Yay - congrats Jen!

      I enjoyed the challenge as well - and Restaurant Wars IN Moonen's restaurant? VERY interesting! Each team gets their own kitchen in a 2-floor kitchen? Cool! (And yay - no decoration!) And GOOD - FOH person also is required to conceive of a dish and is responsible for it.

      ETA: VERY cool high stakes! They get to let the $10K ride and if they win RW, they EACH get $10K!

      1. re: goodhealthgourmet

        ETA: another thing i forgot to say about the QF...i swear, if Bryan does one more foam, air or emulsion i'm gonna SCREAM!!! seriously, enough already.
        ********
        Why? Good foam is fantastic....you smell it and it really enhances the flavor of the food.

        1. re: Ericandblueboy

          because i feel like he's made at least one in every episode, and after sitting on the plate for more than a minute or two it can begin to resemble the saliva of a rabid dog.

          1. re: goodhealthgourmet

            I had many a foams at Joel Robuchon's L'Atelier....would you tell him to stop foaming too?

            1. re: Ericandblueboy

              i voiced my frustration about a chef's insistence on repeating the same technique time and again, in a competition where originality and creativity are supposedly valued. so sue me.

              and if you click on #7, you'll find i'm not the only one on the planet who thinks foam is tired & overused...
              http://www.chicagotribune.com/enterta...

        2. re: goodhealthgourmet

          The snotty comments about Robin are getting pretty tired. She may not cook in the style of the V-brothers or Jen, and she won't win this competition, but she's a decent chef and not a bad human being. It's gotten so that the comments are now a gratuitous insult for how the others bond at her expense. Those people are better than that.

          1. re: chicgail

            "Those people are better than that."
            ~~~~~
            you may be giving some of them too much credit...

            1. re: chicgail

              i agree to a certain extent but there still has to be some merit to her annoyingness since EVERYONE finds her that way. that said that doesn't make her a bad person and many of them are being rude.

              1. re: AMFM

                Right. The fact that you find someone annoying doesn't give you the right to treat someone as badly as a person and as disrespectfully as a colleague as they treat her.

                1. re: Ruth Lafler

                  agreed.
                  but they are living with her 24/7 under the greatest stress of their lives.

                  1. re: AMFM

                    Great stress tends to bring out a person's true character--ask ER doctors and soldiers. This group is showing a real lack of human decency in their behavior toward Robin. It's not like she's a real threat, based on what we've seen of her performance so far. So why be so nasty? At least you attribute some of the Marcel-hatred to jealousy or his own arrogance. This is just nasty, ageist, sexist, misogynist (self-hating misogyny on the women's part) bullying. Go Robin!

                    1. re: newhavener07

                      From what the show's demonstrated so far, Robin, sadly, is one of those people who *just can't appreciate the sound of silence.* When others have said their piece (and when nobody's around) she's frustrated by the lack of "talk" and needs to fill the pause. Worse, at other times, she verbalizes *everything* that's going on in her head. She's like an open book; one that talks and talks andtalksandtalksand...

                      I've been around people like that, and it's *extremely* unnerving. I can see how it becomes *torture* to Robin's peers, given that they're in a very, very high-stress situation.

                      I find it sad that Robin's over 40 and either a) nobody in her life has cared enough for her to point out that she talks too much; or worse b) one or many have indeed tried to intervene on her behalf, but she's not taking the advice.

                      1. re: shaogo

                        Maybe she's not like that when she's in a less stressful environment surrounded by friends and co-workers, not competitors. I'm generally a rather quiet, laid-back person, but I tend to chatter when I'm under stress or when I'm trying too hard to get along with people.

                    2. re: AMFM

                      Being stressed doesn't give one license to be rude or unkind. I really hate the dogpile that's happened. She doesn't seem to have a single ally - although I've noticed that Kevin doesn't seem to participate so much in the hatefest. That just makes me like him even more.

              2. re: goodhealthgourmet

                Cute commentary on Salon.com about the Voltaggio Bros. (note, contains vulgar language): http://www.salon.com/entertainment/to...

                1. re: Ruth Lafler

                  Funny article - and not altogether untrue!

                  1. re: LindaWhit

                    I think she really nailed the sibling dynamic. The bit about the reserved, superior older sibling making a snide remark that sends the more volatile younger sibling into a rage reminds me of me and my sister (of course, we outgrew that well before we were the Voltaggio brothers' ages ... mostly).

                  2. re: Ruth Lafler

                    I loved the article, Ruth! And besides the Voltaggio bros, I love how it also dealt with Don Draper's arrogance and swagger.I'll admit it--I like bad boys although of the two V. brothers, Bryan is probably more my type.

                    1. re: Ruth Lafler

                      LOL, "Glad rage pantry" is most descriptive.

                  3. C'mon guys, let's head to the M Resort!

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                    1. re: ktb615

                      Let stop on the way to the M Resort and pick up some items from the Glad family of products!

                      1. re: grant.cook

                        They could have used the Glad Trash Bags for Jen's Fish and Kevin's Lamb dishes.

                    2. OK, best episode so far this season - they're no longer responsible for the decor?! hooray! more time to focus on the FOOD...and they're also being judged on their adherence to/execution of Moonen's sustainability philosophy? awesome!

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                      1. re: goodhealthgourmet

                        I am SERIOUSLY jazzed about this episode - I'm *so* glad they got rid of shopping at Pier 1 Imports to decorate their restaurant - this is a way cooler way to judge how they deal with RW.

                        Do you think Jennifer has an advantage with what essentially is a seafood challenge?

                        But I still think the Robuchon episode was best. :-)

                        ETA: absolutely phenomenal menus from both Mission and Revolt. Wow. I wanna eat at both restaurants! LOL

                        1. re: LindaWhit

                          oy. the blue team is TANKING.

                          two thoughts:
                          - the collective gasp from the judges when they realized there was no dessert on the menu was NOT a good sign.
                          - i'm gonna be *pissed* if Jen goes home for this! i hope it's Laurine. at least Kevin's safe.

                          1. re: goodhealthgourmet

                            Jennifer's team is getting HAMMERED with the comments from the judges! Tom's comment "her mentor would be disappointed" after Jen's poor fish dish was a WOW moment.

                            And Laurene - ouch, she's really not good as FOH. Forgetting to describe the dishes for the judges? Yeah - the Red Team won this hands down.

                            But it *did* kind of tick me off that the judges said "Noticed that there's no dessert" when they saw the Blue Team's menu. You're damned if you do one, damned if you don't. That continues to bug me.

                            1. re: LindaWhit

                              I think the entire season people have alluded to the fact that someone (from our "Top Four" goes home way too early. I'll be really disappointed if it's Jen tonight.

                              1. re: QSheba

                                I will SCREAM if Jen goes home...and she's leader of her team, so she could. That would just be SO wrong - but Tom has alluded to surprises in this season that the audience will *never* expect, and this could be one of them. However, they weren't happy with Kevin's food either. Either one of them going home will really piss me off.

                                And I agree with the dessert - either tell them they MUST make one (didn't they require it one season? Either TC5 or TC4), or say it doesn't matter, and then don't comment if they don't make a dessert.

                                1. re: LindaWhit

                                  Yes yes yes -- if you demand dessert, make that clear. There are a couple-three things I find maddeningly inconsistent on this, my favorite show. One of the most pressing is the complete dichotomy about whether you should put out food you aren't comfortable with. On one hand, they tell people all the time it was a mistake to send out something they didn't believe in. Then when you have four cooks who know dessert isn't their forte, the judges complain about no dessert.

                                  The winning team was lucky to have two competitors who make good sweets. Both of them sounded delicious to me -- and I don't even like mint ice cream normally. I'd love to try the elderberry with the crisp, as well as the fascinating-looking ganache. Well done, everyone.

                                  1. re: dmd_kc

                                    Hey this got to me too. In past episodeS they chastised someone for making a dessert that didn't turn out well by saying something like you were not obligated to make a dessert, why did you make a dessert and on and on.

                                    Now it's oh NO dessert

                                    1. re: scubadoo97

                                      I suppose...but was that in past episodes of restaurant wars? after all, let's be real: aren't there a lot of Chowhounds out there who would be pretty darn disappointed if they went to a new restaurant and there were NO desserts on the menu?

                                      1. re: susancinsf

                                        totally agree susan. it's a restaurant. and i'd be annoyed if there was not even a dessert option.

                                  2. re: LindaWhit

                                    This seems to be a Toby-thing, more than the other judges. He's made similar comments before in earlier seasons, and doesn't seem to be aware of the fact that many of the TC chefs are dessert-phobic, often for good reasons.

                                    1. re: jbw

                                      Well, it was Tom that made the comment upon viewing Mission's menu that there was no dessert, and then Toby elaborated on Tom's comment. Toby's only been there for 2 seasons; Tom's been there for 6....and the "why didn't you make dessert?" or "Why did you make a dessert if you knew you couldn't make it properly?" seesaws are getting tiresome. Pick one - and freakin' stick with it.

                                      Either the judges WANT a dessert or they don't. But don't chastise them or potentially penalize them if they don't have one. Granted, Jen's team did poorly all around, but I wonder what would have been said if their other courses were absolutely stellar and they still didn't have a dessert?

                                      1. re: LindaWhit

                                        The one thing I'd say about the whole dessert/no dessert thing, though, is that if I were going to be on the show, you can darned well bet I'd absolutely perfect and memorize three desserts -- two rich, one light -- made with pantry ingredients. Desserts match menus more easily than other courses, so you'd have an ace up your sleeve if you really had to produce one. Though I wouldn't have one of them be a molten-center chocolate cake that you can get at Applebee's (cough ::HUNG:: cough).

                                        I must say that regardless of my objections to the inconsistency of the judging criteria, I do think it's a mistake not to have any dessert on your restaurant wars menu. And a cheese and fruit course wouldn't have been a good gamble in this context, though that's normally my favorite choice when it's offered.

                                        1. re: dmd_kc

                                          LOL! I do agree entirely with your first paragraph. :-)

                                          1. re: dmd_kc

                                            Memorizing recipes is one thing, but what if they throw some crazy twist into the challenge and you don't have pantry ingredients? If I were going to be on the show, I'd also find a great pastry chef, buy them an ounce/case of their favorite indulgence, and then goof around with them in the kitchen for an evening and see how their minds work with unfamiliar or unexpected ingredients.

                                            1. re: dmd_kc

                                              I agree -- sometimes I'm surprised at how little the chefs prepare to be on the show.

                                              Clearly they made a strategic error. Laurine should have made dessert. For one thing, she's a caterer, which means she must have some experience with desserts. For another, desserts can be made ahead of time, which means she could have actually taken responsibility for her own dish, instead of leaving it to someone else to execute.

                                              Of course, the obviously would have lost even with dessert. However, if everything else had gone well they would have been in a stronger position if they'd offered, say, a dessert and a cheese plate, since it looks like they were supposed to have two options for each course.

                                              1. re: Ruth Lafler

                                                agree about a caterer should be able to pull off dessert.

                                                can i just say that a caterer should also be able to serve a table or 2 of diners? engage the diners/sell the menu? i don't know what that was with laurine. she should have been able to drop the foh mask down and turn on the charm, no matter what boh's issues. she's a caterer to the wealthy elite, not an introverted line cook. . . she could have zeroed in on an ingredient or a presentation, anything to be engaging or attentive or dareisay present in the moment?

                                        2. re: LindaWhit

                                          I think the whole thing with the dessert is that they give you points if you do dessert properly. A good dessert is better than a good savory third course. But if you screw up dessert, they would rather have a good savory third course. Michael V's team did wonderful desserts. So with everything else being equal, even if Jen's team had great third savory courses, the win would have gone to the dessert team because they did more than they are called to do.

                                          Personally, I'd rather end my meal with dessert than a third savory course. But if the dessert is going to be on par with something like a McDonalds sundae, I'd rather end my meal with a well-prepared lamb chop.

                                        3. re: QSheba

                                          i'm so afraid that Jen's going home i almost don't want to watch!

                                          1. re: goodhealthgourmet

                                            And Michael's team won - and Michael wins the individual win...he gets the $10K. AND he's going to split it with his team members? Damn! Good man.

                                            1. re: LindaWhit

                                              Michael was generous with the money, but he was vile to Robin during the cooking and then tried to take credit for the recipe she used. Not so pleasant to watch. His brother is a big sulky baby too. "You just keep the money." Oh, grow up!

                                              1. re: Claire

                                                I really like Michael's cooking style, but he was sooooo obnoxious -- I really, really, really hate people who do something provocative and then make it all about your reaction to deflect from their original behavior. "Don't swear!" "Relax, relax, RELAX!" Dude, you were the one who was being a bully and a control freak!

                                                In Bryan's defense, by that point it was probably 3 a.m. after a very long, stressful day. I've behaved worse under those conditions.

                                                1. re: Claire

                                                  IIRC, Michael did help Robin with her dessert concept. They were sitting at the house going over the menu and Robin mentioned that Micheal helped her elevate her dish. I don't think he was taking full credit, but he wanted it acknowledged that he did help conceptulize the dish.

                                                  1. re: jcattles

                                                    He did, and she gave him full credit for that. It was when he started talking about how he executed it (not even "we") that she got upset.

                                              2. re: goodhealthgourmet

                                                Jen should have gone home. Both her dishes sucked but thanks to past performances, they sent Laurine home for being a bad hostess.

                                                1. re: Ericandblueboy

                                                  Read Tom's blog - they liked her halibut, so she only had one strike against her. Laurene was responsible for her lamb dish, and had said she would send it back if it wasn't to her liking...she didn't do that. So that, on top of not running the FOH well enough and making sure dishes were being fired at the appropriate time, sent her home.

                                                  1. re: LindaWhit

                                                    The show shows their spontaneous and contemporaneous reactions. The blogs are written afterwards. I know what I saw...I don't believe everything I read.

                                                    1. re: Ericandblueboy

                                                      And we also don't see the entire JT - so we're seeing what the Magical Elves editors gives us to see in 75 minutes. So it is highly probable they *did* like her halibut. Again - it's Moonen's and Colicchio's reputations on the line as well if they lie about it and it gets out.

                                                      1. re: LindaWhit

                                                        It's not blantant and it certainly can be spinned a la Toms blog. I'm not the only person who feels this way but I wouldn't put my reputation on the line to defend Tom. I rather know what you think rather than have you defend Tom. I've been to Craft and I have no plan on going back. As for Moonen, I'm not even plannning on eating his food. So their reputation do not concern me at all.

                                                        1. re: Ericandblueboy

                                                          Their reputation is THEIRS to care about. And they obviously do, as they make decisions based on food, not who they want to win the contest.

                                                          1. re: Ericandblueboy

                                                            They actually did say her halibut was cooked perfectly while they were eating it and afterward at JT. They also mentioned that while her consomme was not clear, it was still good. Her trout failed altogether, but the halibut was a decent dish and they said as much while eating it. Not sure what you were watching, but you obviously couldn't have been paying that close attention.

                                                            1. re: gastrotect

                                                              Not sure what you were watching, but you obviously couldn't have been paying that close attention.
                                                              *****
                                                              Oh well. Must've zoned out.

                                                              1. re: Ericandblueboy

                                                                It happens. Keep in mind, I don't think Jen did well. I just remember them specifically saying the halibut itself was good and the sauce was tasty. The dish had problems, but it was passable whereas it seemed Laurine didn't do anything passably.

                                                                1. re: gastrotect

                                                                  Was the bad shellfish served with the trout or the halibut?

                                                                  1. re: Ericandblueboy

                                                                    I think it was the trout (undercooked mussels, IIRC).

                                                                    ETA: No, I guess it was the halibut - Bravo is having trouble displaying the recipes, but the name of the trout recipe was: "Trout with Brown Butter Emulsion, Hazelnuts, and Braised Endive" and the halibut was "Alaskan Halibut with Mussels, Clams, and Saffron Aioli in Consummé"

                                                                    1. re: LindaWhit

                                                                      So while the halibut itself was fine, the entire dish wasn't. I knew there were complaints about both her dishes. Of course Tom then focused on the good (but he did mention the shellfish too) and only docked Jen for making 1 bad dish instead of 2. Yes I think Tom can be swayed by past performances and you disagree (since we now understand each other perfectly, let's avoid this same argument in the future).

                                                                      1. re: Ericandblueboy

                                                                        since we now understand each other perfectly, let's avoid this same argument in the future
                                                                        ~~~~~~~
                                                                        At least until next season, Eric. :-)

                                                                      2. re: LindaWhit

                                                                        Seriously... was "Consummé" misspelled on Bravo? I thought I saw the misspelling on the screen last evening, but thought it was just a trick of my eyes. Cannot believe they would miss that! (If anyone doesn't know, there is no "u" in "ConsOmmé."

                                                                        1. re: ChefJune

                                                                          Yes, that was a copy/paste directly from the recipe link, June. Not good. :-/

                                                                    2. re: gastrotect

                                                                      The blogs are pretty clear that you have it right, gastrotect. While we can't taste the food, we can certainly see that Laurine didn't have the manner of a good server at all. She came off as rude and aloof, not to mention the gaps in service. Mind you, I'm not saying she's rude -- but she just didn't seem gracious and welcoming at all. I could see the tension.

                                                                      More than once, she replied to the judges' "thank you" with a fairly terse "you're welcome." Something like "my pleasure" and a smile would have gone a long way, I predict.

                                                                      1. re: dmd_kc

                                                                        I didn't think Laurine came off as rude. Distant and perhaps overwhelmed, yes. I think the judges' characterization of her being like a deer caught in the headlights was spot on.

                                                                        And I have a pet peeve about "my pleasure". Some hotels (the Ritz Carlton being one of them) train their staff to say it so often, it comes off (at least to me) as insincere and scripted. Give me a simple and sincere "thank you' or 'you're welcome," and I'm good.

                                          2. Isn't that the way this always goes? The team that looks like it should be strongest blows the whole thing.

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                                            1. re: ktb615

                                              Isn't that the way this always goes? The team that looks like it should be strongest blows the whole thing.
                                              ***
                                              Guess you're not a very good judge of who's strong and who's not. Head to head, I think Kevin is as good as the Volt bros but Jen is showing she's not in the same class.

                                              1. re: Ericandblueboy

                                                I completely disagree. Jen almost always puts out well-executed food with sophisticated flavors. Judges consistently are impressed by her execution, palate, and creativity. She had an off-night, that doesn't mean she's not in the same league. If you go back and look at how many times the "Top Four" have been in the "High" group, how many wins they have and how many times they've been in the low group, Jen is not outclassed, statistically at least.

                                                Head to head, I think that most people would agree that as a TEAM the blue team were better if you were to add up their individual talent. Kevin and Jen are just as good as the V-Bros. I think if you were to completely disregard "personality"....Mike Isabella and Laurine outweigh Eli and Robin as far as cooking talentl..and it's not unreasonable to assume that the tension Robin brings to her group could throw things off for the entire team- that isn't the case for Mike I., Laurine, or Eli. The problem in Restaurant Wars was that the Red Team was greater than the sum of it's parts, whereas the Blue Team just apart- overconfidence + poor planning was their downfall.

                                                1. re: QSheba

                                                  Jen's been carried by Kevin several times. I don't think anyone's carrying either of the Volt bros....that's just my opinion. I'm increasingly sure that Jen's not as talented. And if you go read reviews of her restaurant in Philly, it bears out.

                                                  1. re: Ericandblueboy

                                                    I don't remember Jen being carried by Kevin. Can you site any specifics?

                                                    1. re: chicgail

                                                      Jen has 1 elimnation win and it was when she was teamed up with Kevin. She's never won elimination on her own. Each of the Volt bros and Kevin has multiple elimination wins by now.

                                                      1. re: Ericandblueboy

                                                        You are correct about Kevin and the V-bros having multiple elimination wins. I believe Jen won Episode 7 (dinner party) and she's been in the top 3 four times. I don't get the sense that Kevin or anyone else is carrying her, however.

                                                    2. re: Ericandblueboy

                                                      Are you sure you're not confusing Jen Carroll with Jen Zavala? All the reviews I've read of 10 Arts have been positive. El Camino Real, not so much. Anyway, you don't get to work at Le Bernardin for 5 years without being talented.

                                                      1. re: Buckethead

                                                        I'm sure she's talented and the restaurant gets positive reviews but is it one of the best restaurants in Philly? If I'm from out of town, would I make an effort to eat there? Ripert also has a restaurant in DC called Westend and I can tell you from personal experience it's not one of the best restaurants in DC.

                                                        1. re: Ericandblueboy

                                                          I agree with you about the Westend Bistro. I love the atmosphere and the bar, but the food isn't all that great and is hyped on Ripert's name, IMHO.

                                                      2. re: Ericandblueboy

                                                        The "top four" and the stats... I think you should go back and watch the episodes again and see how they won. Jen has not been "carried" by Kevin. I personally think all four are extremely talented. You seem to have something against Jen, which is your choice, but don't let that bias blind you from the facts.

                                                        Quickfire wins:
                                                        Jen-3
                                                        Kevin-3
                                                        Bryan-0
                                                        MV-2

                                                        Elimination Wins:
                                                        Jen-1
                                                        Kevin-3
                                                        Bryan-3
                                                        MV-1

                                                        High Group:
                                                        Jen-4
                                                        Kevin-2
                                                        Bryan-3
                                                        MV-5

                                                        Low Group:
                                                        Jen-1
                                                        Kevin-1
                                                        Bryan-0
                                                        MV-1

                                                        1. re: QSheba

                                                          Nice stats, QSheba. At this point, (to me) it's Kevin and Bryan for the Final 2. Either Jen or Michael would be the 3rd person for the finale.

                                                          1. re: LindaWhit

                                                            I'm fairly certain that Kevin will be in the final 2. I'm less certain about Bryan V. vs. Michael V.as one of the final 2. Maybe b/c I'm torn between Bryan's consistency and Michael's innovativeness. That's a tough one. To me, Jen is last among the four at this point

                                                          2. re: QSheba

                                                            Why are you using last week's stats? Actually, you're selectively using stats (you gave Jen this week's QF win but didn't give Mike this week's elim win). Jen's one elimination win is in partnership with Kevin. One of her QF win is from a team that includes Kevin, who finished a fish that she misidentified. (So 50% of her wins aren't her solo effort ).

                                                            Let's look at the up to date "real" stat s:

                                                            Elim:
                                                            Bryan 6 highs with 3 wins
                                                            Michael 7 highs with 2 wins
                                                            Kevin 5 highs with 3 wins
                                                            Jen 5 highs with 1 win

                                                            I think of the top 4 she's the weakest. I don't have anything against Jen and she has consistently been in my top 4 but now I'm narrowing that down to top 3.

                                                            1. re: Ericandblueboy

                                                              i can't believe it, but you & i are in agreement on this one! ;)

                                                              Kvin was my pick from Day One to win it all, and i still see that happening unless he pulls a Richard Blais. the brothers round out my top three. i like Jen a lot and i'm hoping she makes it to the final 4, but i don't see her going beyond that.

                                                  2. Oh, class move by Michael in splitting the 10k reward, I like it.

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                                                    1. re: mjhals

                                                      But's what up with Bryan telling him to keep it?

                                                      1. re: LindaWhit

                                                        Bryan thought Mike should keep it since he won it. Bryan isn't hurting for money as far as I know.

                                                        1. re: Ericandblueboy

                                                          Yeah, I know. I heard that as well. But it seemed to be an argument about it.

                                                          1. re: LindaWhit

                                                            If you want to give someone a gift and they tell you no thanks, how would you feel? Mike probably thinks Bryan is being ungrateful. Since they're brothers, they have no problem telling each other exactly how they feel. If they're strangers, I'm not sure Bryan would tell Mike to keep the money, and I'm not sure Mike would have any issue with keeping the money if someone other than Bryan is rejecting it.

                                                            1. re: Ericandblueboy

                                                              I don't disagree with you, but Bryan said "you won it, you should keep it!" I think it's sibling rivalry rearing its ugly head again.

                                                              1. re: LindaWhit

                                                                To me, Bryan's expression said it all. He did not look happy for his brother.

                                                                1. re: Gigi007

                                                                  deep down I'm sure he's happy that his bro won rather than Eli or Robin, but would he rather have won himself? I'm sure he would prefer to win...

                                                          2. re: Ericandblueboy

                                                            Bryan said something to the effect of "I'm tired of him getting rewarded for his behavior" or something like that...in other words, he resented his brother being the leader/arrogant/jerk in the kitchen and on top of that, winning. That's why he didn't want the money. Nothing to do with "hurting for money" or really believing that Mike deserved it- he was sour grapes.

                                                            1. re: QSheba

                                                              I caught that comment too. No one forced him to say that he was tired of his brother getting rewarded for bad behavior. I believe he has real issues with that. Earlier on in the show, I had thought it was due to the editors playing up the rivalry, but now I'm convinced that there is a real competition between the brothers.. Personally, I admire both brothers' cooking and have eaten at Bryan's restaurants. However, like the judges, I see more creativity in Michael's dishes. Bryan has the cooler head ,but also has a temper.

                                                              1. re: QSheba

                                                                I heard it as "I'm tired of him getting rewarded for his unprofessional behavior." Which I think puts a little different spin on things. I'm not sure he resented his brother for winning, I just don't think he was happy for the way Michael won.

                                                          3. re: mjhals

                                                            And they're ruining it by nitpicking each other! I can't stand it! Ok, I'm going to stop blaming the editing for the sibling rivalry, they just have a thing, I guess.

                                                            1. re: mjhals

                                                              I still can't tell them apart. I know one has fared better than the other, but I just can't recall which.

                                                              1. re: Reignking

                                                                Bryan's done better than Michael on the number of wins, but Michael's been in the HIGH group more than Bryan:

                                                                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Chef...

                                                              2. re: mjhals

                                                                I now think they have a thing too! It can't be just the editing as I thought it was before. It seems that they are very competitive and have extremely different personalities.