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tjust Oct 18, 2009 11:44 PM

hi,

so....this is my first post on this board, or on chowhound at all in fact. i have used this as an invaluable resource all over the place, but particularly on two recent trips to japan.

this is a shot in the dark....while visiting a friend's family in Kyushu (a couple of hours away from Fukuoka....past Karatsu.....) my wife and i were taken to a restaurant in a little town on the coast. the meal was phenomenal, one of our absolute highlights...

the restaurant featured a huge pool in the middle of the main room that was filled with live squid. for each diner, a whole squid was brought out (still alive). the back was sliced and was eaten as sashimi (still alive!), then scissors were brought out. the tentacles were snipped off (still alive!! moving...) and eaten. finally, whatever was left over was taken away and returned as tempura. you can imagine how fantastic it was...

a couple of friends are planning a trip to japan and i was hoping to find some place that might do something similar in tokyo or kyoto. this place was WAY off the beaten path, particularly for your average tourist. a longer shot in the dark would be if anyone knows of a place in new york city that does some kind of similar preparation (i know about a couple of the live octopus places).

anyway...thanks in advance, and here are a couple of pictures to go with it....

 
 
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  1. The Chowhound Team RE: tjust Oct 19, 2009 08:24 AM

    If anyone knows a place to order live squid in New York, please post about it on the appropriate board, Tristate for Upstate NY, Outer Boroughs, or Manhattan boards. Please post a link to NY posts here, so we can all know where to look. Thanks so much!

    1. kuidaore RE: tjust Oct 19, 2009 10:34 AM

      Hakata(Fukuoka) is known for that live clear squid. It's very hard to find outside of Hakata. In fact, the quality you had on the coast can't be even found in the city of Fukuoka. I had it there just last month--I wasn't impressed. I was with a native Fukuokan and she said that was the best we could expect in the city. After I left Kyushu, she went to the coast and had a much better quality.

      Having said that, there is a place in Osaka that serves this squid. (Obviously, it won't be the same quality you had, though.)
      Hakata Batten in Shinsaibashi (no Eng page or info available)
      http://r.gnavi.co.jp/k027702/menu7.htm

      They get so many pieces of squid from Hakata air shipped every day and run out so you have to make a reservation or get there early. Also, they won't get it when the sea is rough due to the bad weather (The live squid wasn't available at most places in Hakata on our first day in Hakata due to the bad weather.

      )

      They serve other Hakata and Kyushu dishes, incl. horse sashimi--again, no comparison to what you can get in Kyushu, but acceptable in Osaka.

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        tjust RE: kuidaore Oct 19, 2009 01:35 PM

        thanks very much for the reply!

        in tokyo, we also went to a place called Kyushu in Shibuya that was pretty good. i don't remember if this squid was on the menu there, but perhaps...
        http://www.bento.com/rev/0454.html

        off-topic, but i didn't know horse sashimi was particular to kyushu or hakata...another place that we stumbled into in Kyoto had fantastic horse sashimi (everything was great here actually):
        http://www.zuzu.jp/
        i don't speak japanese, but it looks like this might be a chain by their website...

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          kuidaore RE: tjust Oct 19, 2009 07:10 PM

          Kumamoto is THE place for horse meat. I had superb horse sashimi at a ryotei in Hakata, though. It was marbled. (Can't go back to Hakata Batten in Osaka anymore...)

          An associate in Hakata highly recommends a horse meat place called "Konomi". They serve horse liver sashimi, grilled drained horse vessels and other horse parts. I didn't have time to go there last month.

          Probably this one
          http://r.tabelog.com/fukuoka/A4002/A4...

          Don't think you can get fresh squid like that in Kagoshima because the squid is from Genkai-nada.
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genkai_Sea

          In fact, you can get fresher squid in Saga than Fukuoka.
          Yobuko in Saga is famous for its squid.
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yobuko,_...
          http://www.jnto.go.jp/eng/location/re...
          http://www.town.genkai.saga.jp/index....
          http://www.yu-netkita.com/ika/

          The squid I had in Fukuoka wasn't this fresh!
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAntnp...

          The Fukuoka restaurant where I had the squid originally started in Yobuko and I'm pretty sure the squid I had came from Yobuko (but probably it was a day old!

          )

          Yobuko is also known for whale-fishing. I was surprised the whale meat was widely available at department and grocery stores in Fukuoka (not so in other parts of Japan).

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            tjust RE: kuidaore Oct 19, 2009 08:07 PM

            man...thanks so much for all this great information. now i am dying to get back to hakata (also for those great yatai!) that video nails it too!

            i need to check....we may have been in yobuko after all...there was a lovely bridge out f the restaurant and the distance seems about right for the drive.

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              tjust RE: tjust Oct 20, 2009 08:51 AM

              ok, it was indeed in Yobuko and the restaurant was named Kawataro.

              we had good whale at Galali in Tokyo (Aoyama).

              thanks everyone for your replies!

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              Silverjay RE: kuidaore Oct 19, 2009 08:29 PM

              I have found whale readily available, in many forms, in Tokyo, Kanazawa, and Hakodate.

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                exilekiss RE: Silverjay Oct 21, 2009 09:19 AM

                Hi Silverjay,

                Haven't seen you post on the Japan Board in a while; I'm always looking forward to your restaurant experiences. :)

                How were the whale dishes you tried in Tokyo and Kanazawa? Is it worth a trip to a particular restaurant just to try it? Thanks! :)

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              Ninisix RE: tjust Oct 19, 2009 11:56 PM

              Again, another link to a "shitamachi" place, counter, live squid, tempura of the geso,... :
              Miyoshi -Asakusa http://r.gnavi.co.jp/fl/en/g339100/me....

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              davew666 RE: kuidaore Oct 19, 2009 02:44 PM

              so would they do this dish well in kagoshima do you think?

            5. Yukari RE: tjust Oct 19, 2009 09:39 PM

              Kyushu is famous for Yobuko aori ika squid. Yobuko is the name of the fishing village that it comes from and the type of squid is aori ika. It is served while it is still alive. My husband is a seafood buyer and he was amazed at how good it was when we were in Fukuoka.

              I have heard of a Korean restaurant in Queens (mentioned in the recent Edibles magazine) that serves live octopus but have not heard about the live squid.

              Here is a photo of the live Yobuko squid we had in Fukuoka and the name of the restaurant where we had it.

              http://tokyostation-yukari.blogspot.c...

              1. FourSeasons RE: tjust Oct 20, 2009 05:39 AM

                You can get live squid at Nabura in Tokyo. I had it there two years ago.

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                  Emeryvilledb RE: tjust Oct 23, 2009 08:58 PM

                  I think I ate at this restaurant year's ago...and have been wondering where it was..we were driven there by a local at the end of a long day. Do you have the name or town? I'll be returning to Japan this fall and want to take my husband there! An amazing experience! Would be very grateful for any info you could post or send me. Unfortunately, I can't answer your question on where else in the world you can find something similar..wish I did.

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                    davew666 RE: tjust Oct 27, 2009 06:23 AM

                    Can anyone recommend a good place to eat this in Hakata - I will be there next week and would love to try it out

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                      E Eto RE: davew666 Oct 27, 2009 12:08 PM

                      I thought Teraoka was pretty solid. It was my only chance to get the ika zukushi set.
                      http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/351402

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                        tokyodrinkingglass RE: E Eto Oct 28, 2009 04:41 PM

                        Does it have to be live squid? I went to a place that specializes in "live" octopus in Osaka called Takojaya. The tentacles actually did grab your chopsticks, even several minutes after their, um, separation from the body.

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                          E Eto RE: tokyodrinkingglass Oct 28, 2009 09:45 PM

                          Well, if you're on the Japan sea side of Kyushu (and Yamaguchi prefecture), then squid is one of the specialties of the area. So yeah, it's squid. Octopus is more common in from the Seto inland sea from Mihara (in Hiroshima prefecture) towards Osaka, so then you'll find more octopus specialists. There seem to be many in Osaka.

                      2. re: davew666
                        kuidaore RE: davew666 Oct 29, 2009 02:53 PM

                        I ate at Kawataro in Hakata--they get the squid from their original location in Yobuko where tjust ate. I wasn't impressed with their squid, but it was probably a day old. After you eat the live one, they either grill or deep fry the rest (they'll ask you how you want it to be cooked). The fried version was excellent along with the great fried potatoes.
                        Kawataro is higher end and more expensive. Many izakayas offer the live squid in Hakata.

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                        jem589 RE: tjust Oct 31, 2009 02:56 AM

                        Y'know, I saw something on TV a couple years ago with that Sakana San guy (wears a fish hat, jumps around and shouts a lot when he eats fish, marine biologist in real life...not a cartoon, even though that description sounds like it) where he went to a place in Tokyo. I always wondered about it.
                        This place looks very average, but I think from the pictures that it has live squid sashi:
                        http://r.tabelog.com/tokyo/A1308/A130...

                        Ooh, this looks like the place he went to (Shinjuku). You can choose between several types of squid:
                        http://www.uobaka.com/store_info/stor...
                        Their other stores (Ginza) might not have the specialty live squid. And it says something about squid not being in season now.

                        Seems the accepted term for eating it live is 'ikizukuri', not coincidentally a similar sound to 'icky'.

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                          davew666 RE: tjust Nov 4, 2009 04:42 AM

                          I ate this this evening in Fukuoka. I have to say, as someone who goes hunting or fishing several times a week, it seemed unnecessarily cruel to me. It tasted pretty good, especially the tempura, but I won't be having it again. Glad I tried it though.

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