660082 Fri Oct 16 16:12:40 -0700 2009 35 31 Home Cooking 0 5109147 http://www.chow.com/contests/holidaydesserts I'm hoping to see some of you all submitting some delicious holiday desserts! We've got a great giveaway, a Maytag range. Fri Oct 16 16:12:40 -0700 2009 10086 davina 1 5110222 what is Chow planning on doing with all the recipes collected? "When you post or transmit Content on or through the Site you grant the Site and CNET Networks, their affiliates and partners a nonexclusive, perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, sub licensable, royalty-free license to use, store, display, publish, transmit, transfer, distribute, reproduce, rearrange, edit, modify, aggregate your Content with other Content, create derivative works of and publicly perform that Content for any purpose on and through each of the services provided by the Site or on other sites owned by CNET Networks or its affiliates or partners. This license shall apply to the distribution and the storage of your Content in any form, medium, or technology now known or later developed." --from 'terms of use' though I suppose selling a cookbook isn't any different than selling advertisements on this site... Sat Oct 17 09:08:55 -0700 2009 5109147 11234 toodie jane 2 5114913 We don't have plans at the moment to sell cookbooks, we've got our hands full with the website! Mon Oct 19 12:47:20 -0700 2009 5110222 10086 davina 3 5116014 An answer any politician would be proud of! Mon Oct 19 19:27:07 -0700 2009 5114913 95646 Jibe 4 5117251 I love the "now known or later developed" part, hehe Tue Oct 20 09:58:14 -0700 2009 5116014 11234 toodie jane 3 5117978 So, if one posts a recipe on CH - does one need CH to give permission, should one (entirely hypothetically at this point), in order to publish it elsewhere? Thanks. Tue Oct 20 13:46:12 -0700 2009 5114913 10985 MMRuth 4 5117983 Oh - and do you test the recipes? Tue Oct 20 13:48:33 -0700 2009 5117978 10985 MMRuth 5 5123192 For the contest? Yes. Not all of them -- but we do test the 4-5 that we deem the most promising, and from those we pick the winner, runner-up, and we usually grant a people's choice, too, from the votes. In the holiday desserts contest, though, only the winner gets the grand prize! Thu Oct 22 12:38:34 -0700 2009 5117983 10086 davina 4 5119615 "non-exclusive" so they get to use it how they see fit, but it's a non-exclusive right to do so. Wed Oct 21 08:21:46 -0700 2009 5117978 11234 toodie jane 4 5123187 Nope, you own your work. We haven't devised a way to get around that pesky little detail, unfortunately. I'll let you know when we've annexed the portion of your brain that comes up with delicious recipe ideas. We just get a license to use the recipe. Thu Oct 22 12:37:27 -0700 2009 5117978 10086 davina 5 5123209 How do you know if the recipes posted are original as in "owned" by the submitter? Honor system? For instance, I have found examples of the current top voted recipe entered into the contest elsewhere on the Net. Thu Oct 22 12:44:58 -0700 2009 5123187 36312 HillJ 6 5149264 I was wondering the same thing. I've been using a version of that recipe for at least 10 years (sans crust) that I got from a magazine, I believe. Mon Nov 02 10:06:01 -0800 2009 5123209 10532 LindaWhit 7 5149412 Bingo...and it disappoints me a bit that no one responded back. Doesn't leave me w/much faith for CHOW contests if recipes need not be original or no requirement that recipes be original. The prize is certainly worthy of originality. Mon Nov 02 10:59:08 -0800 2009 5149264 36312 HillJ 8 5149424 What I thought as well. There are some good recipes on the list, but it seems like the person in the lead might be having friends vote that particular recipe "up". However, having said that - at least they'll be testing the recipes and pick the few winners out of those (although it seems People's Choice will go a certain way :-/ ). Mon Nov 02 11:02:11 -0800 2009 5149412 10532 LindaWhit 9 5149433 The way the recipe contests are set up, it's hard to know much of anything about their back story. "Let thy taste buds decide" seems to be the most important factor. Mon Nov 02 11:04:49 -0800 2009 5149424 36312 HillJ 10 5178560 Yup - looks like the non-original recipe wins. Fri Nov 13 08:11:40 -0800 2009 5149433 10532 LindaWhit 11 5179089 CHOW's contest, CHOW's "rules" but for a prize so worthy, original recipe would have been nice. Congrats to all the chowhounds who entered. Fri Nov 13 10:44:35 -0800 2009 5178560 36312 HillJ 12 5179573 Yes - an original recipe would be best. But - their rules, as you said. Congrats to all (too bad there weren't additional prizes give out for at least honorable mention!) Fri Nov 13 13:13:48 -0800 2009 5179089 10532 LindaWhit 13 5179598 As a first time Chow contest participant, this was an eye-opener for me and I learned some things. Suffice it to say I don't think I will be entering another contest run like this one, but it was interesting to see how things played out. Fri Nov 13 13:18:50 -0800 2009 5179573 10726 TrishUntrapped 14 5179666 Interesting, Trish. While I know you can't reveal what you learned, it does say a lot, and pretty much confirms I don't think I'd want to participate in one. I do think it odd that the winner had 91 votes whereas the next closest vote getter was half that (even if they weren't in the top 3). Doesn't seem much different from a site like French's Mustard, where people enter a weekly contest and then post on message boards asking for people to vote for their recipe (and yes, I saw this happening on an AOL food message board). It was a popularity contest more than anything. Similar to American Idol. :-) Fri Nov 13 13:38:48 -0800 2009 5179598 10532 LindaWhit 15 5179894 And what would be wrong about the CHOW Team sharing how the contest is run? Don't all contests offer some form of explanation and tour behind the contest scenes. I'd love to know who tested the recipes, who voted on the tested recipes and what their feedback was completely based on. That would bring greater insight and possibly more interest to CH contests. Fri Nov 13 15:14:45 -0800 2009 5179666 36312 HillJ 16 5180772 Yes the contest is closed and yes one recipe has received more user votes. But I believe it says the winners will be announced November 16 and that the votes may play a role in the selection. Sat Nov 14 04:50:54 -0800 2009 5179894 12120 julesrules 17 5180783 Jules, that's why I was surprised to find that the winner has already been announced. Sat Nov 14 05:01:51 -0800 2009 5180772 10726 TrishUntrapped 18 5180796 ah i see, i couldn't figure out where the link was last night. Sat Nov 14 05:14:24 -0800 2009 5180783 12120 julesrules 16 5196788 I'm happy to explain how the contest works, and I'm sorry for the delay in responding here. When the contest ends, we go through the submitted recipes (in this case "we" means me and our two food editors Amy and Christine) and talk through what sounds good, what's a well-written recipe, what's most appropriate for the particular contest. For example, for holiday desserts we wanted something festive and seasonal, and of course tasty. We always test the one that gets the most votes, because we need to photograph it for people's choice. But we don't usually expect it to win. We test anywhere from four to nine other recipes. In this case, I think we tested five, and from those came the winner and two honorable mentions. The staff tasted the recipes and offered comments and favorites, and after that I talked to the food editors about how they felt about actually cooking the recipes. What seemed off, what was downright wrong, what turned out horribly or great. For example, many of these recipes were much sweeter than we would have liked. It's a subjective process, like any taste test. But we're happy with the recipe that won and big congrats to the winner and to the honorable mentions, and all of the entries. Fri Nov 20 12:18:59 -0800 2009 5179894 10086 davina 17 5196884 davina, I appreciate the reply. With respect to the actual recipes did judging the submissions include researching recipe origin? Fri Nov 20 12:58:52 -0800 2009 5196788 36312 HillJ 18 5197204 We didn't look at every recipe uploaded, but we do check to see that the winning recipe isn't taken verbatim from somewhere. Fri Nov 20 15:54:34 -0800 2009 5196884 10086 davina 15 5186777 To Linda, and Trish - ditto - it's all about popularity. While the recipe that won looks good, it's not the best recipe that was submitted. Mon Nov 16 15:48:59 -0800 2009 5179666 124908 jeanmarieok 1 5124687 So...... if I wanted to enter a recipe I have already published, how do I do that? And just to clarify, is this http://www.chow.com/home_cooking_digest/3129 considered already published? Thank you! T Fri Oct 23 05:03:18 -0700 2009 5109147 101616 Tehama 2 5126636 Tehama, since the Digest is part of Chow.com, using substance you've posted on Chowhound, all already covered under the nonexclusive right quoted above by toodie jjane, I cannot imagine that submitting same to this contest would be problematic, if that is the one place it has been published. If it has been published elsewhere, but you own the copyright, I would think that would be fine, as well. Fri Oct 23 19:24:06 -0700 2009 5124687 10074 Caitlin McGrath 3 5127239 Thanks so much for your message back. As far as I know, that is the only place it has ever been 'published' unless my Grandmother had it printed somewhere in the 1950s! :-) Can you please tell me how I link the recipe to the contest? Many, many thanks to you! T Sat Oct 24 07:33:11 -0700 2009 5126636 101616 Tehama 4 5127616 I think you will need to type the recipe in through the link that Davina provided in the initial post above, which is specific to this contest. Sat Oct 24 10:53:26 -0700 2009 5127239 10074 Caitlin McGrath 5 5171595 yes,i agree with Tehama Tue Nov 10 19:05:58 -0800 2009 5127616 170499 kiiess 1 5178516 The winners are posted if anyone is interested. I congratulate the winner and honorable mentions. My recipe for a trifle was not one of the chosen ones, but it was an interesting contest experience, so I thank all involved. Fri Nov 13 08:00:18 -0800 2009 5109147 10726 TrishUntrapped 2 5202339 Hi Trish, TDQ-come-lately here. I just noticed the winners had been published (yeah, I know, I'm really, really late to the party). I'm sorry you didn't win (and, in fact, that the winner doesn't appear to be a regular contributor to Chowhound), but I admire you for entering. Your dessert attempts always sound amazing to me. I think I'll even give your trifle recipe a go this season. It does sound lovely! ~TDQ Mon Nov 23 09:22:08 -0800 2009 5178516 12005 The Dairy Queen 3 5203106 in fact, that the winner doesn't appear to be a regular contributor to Chowhound ~~~~~~~~~~~ I hadn't noticed that earlier, TDQ. That really grates on me. Mon Nov 23 13:19:09 -0800 2009 5202339 10532 LindaWhit