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<topic>
  <id>659836</id>
  <title>Ordering ramen noodles cooked 'hard?'</title>
  <published_at>Thu Oct 15 22:17:22 -0700 2009</published_at>
  <post_count>6</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>45</id>
    <name>Japan</name>
  </board>
  <posts>
    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>5107148</id>
        <content>What do I say to order my ramen noodles hard or extra hard if they don't understand English?  And they almost surely don't.

Thanks in advance!</content>
        <published_at>Thu Oct 15 22:17:22 -0700 2009</published_at>
        <parent_id></parent_id>
        <user>
          <id>10156</id>
          <name>Steve</name>
        </user>
      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5107218</id>
      <content>The term you want is "Katame" or "Firm"</content>
      <published_at>Thu Oct 15 23:45:37 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5107148</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>226450</id>
        <name>Notorious P.I.G.</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5107375</id>
      <content>Pronounced "kah-tah-may".

Also, occasionally you will find a place that will not cook the noodles katame, because they feel the noodles are not appropriate for it, or it throws off their timing, or some other reason, valid or not, but those places are definitely the minority.

Extra hard would be "barikata", and that might be a problem at some places too.

So although it's not likely, if you get some long string of Japanese back instead of "hai", when you ask for katame, don't take it personally.
</content>
      <published_at>Fri Oct 16 05:18:20 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5107148</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>110812</id>
        <name>kamiosaki</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5107804</id>
      <content>Thanks to both responses.  I feel much better prepared.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Oct 16 08:34:04 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5107375</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10156</id>
        <name>Steve</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5109814</id>
      <content>'katame de onegai-shimasu' is the best / most polite way to request it.. 

 literally " please prepare [my noodles] on the firm side..." </content>
      <published_at>Sat Oct 17 01:50:29 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5107148</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>47922</id>
        <name>foreignmuck</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5111257</id>
      <content>Awesome.  I want to surprise them with my politeness and erudition.  Of course, if my accent is too good I risk getting back a string of talk I don't understand.....</content>
      <published_at>Sat Oct 17 18:29:47 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5109814</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10156</id>
        <name>Steve</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>5111458</id>
      <content>"Hanase Masen" should take care of that real quick.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Oct 17 20:42:03 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5111257</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>226450</id>
        <name>Notorious P.I.G.</name>
      </user>
    </post>
  </posts>
</topic>
