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Hey Detroit! At least we have ONE thing that isn't going down the tubes...

coney with everything Oct 8, 2009 08:46 AM

This article in The Atlantic extols the virtues of Deetroit rye bread. The author of the article is also publishing a book called "Save the Deli"


And props to Sy Ginsberg's fabulous corned beef too.

Amazing...we do Jewish rye better than NYC!

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    Jim M Oct 8, 2009 09:54 AM

    He's absolutely right about this. And the delis around Oakland County (I would also add Mudgie's in Detroit) are as good as any I've ever eaten at. Zingerman's used to make an even more hard-core item called chernushka rye, with peppery black seeds. Now they sell it only once in a while.

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      Rheta Oct 9, 2009 06:31 AM

      This is very intesting. My husband was a kid on Long Island 45 years ago and has fond memories of the rye bread. Maybe it wasn't as good as he thought. Maybe it was because he was a kid.
      When we first moved here we were told the best Jewish deli in our area(western burbs) was Ron's Bagel Deli. We tried it and were in love. They used Ginsberg's corned beef and had fabulous home made rye. I think it was partially baked as well and then finished off at the deli. It was delicious! I believe the owners were former owners of the Bread Basket or associated with it somehow. Sadly, Ron's Bagel Deli is no more:(

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      1. re: Rheta
        Fibber McGee Oct 12, 2009 08:37 AM

        We miss Ron's. I haven't tried the place that is now there, The Rye Bread Deli or something like that, but I haven't heard great things about it.
        The Bread Basket still lives, even if it is a slight haul through construction to get there for those of us in the Western suburbs.

        1. re: Fibber McGee
          Jim M Oct 12, 2009 09:29 AM

          Noticed that the Bread Basket has a branch in Livonia on Middlebelt. Do they replicate the food of the original successfully? I do like the original place.

          1. re: Jim M
            Rheta Oct 12, 2009 11:46 AM

            I noticed that Bread Basket on Grand River and Middle Belt last week. Building looked a little sketchy. There was noone there. I would be interested to hear if the quality is the same as the original place. Never been, just heard of it.

            1. re: Jim M
              gooddog Oct 12, 2009 11:56 AM

              The quality of the original Bread Basket vs branches/offshoots and competitors has been much debated here: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/390427. I don't intend to restart that debate. However, you should know that the original and branches (there are 5) do have different owners. I believe the original owners sold that location to some former employees. The branches are owned by Al, of Al's Famous in Royal Oak. Also somehow related to the original owners was Ron of the late lamented Ron's Bagel Deli.
              What we really need is someone who can draw us a family tree showing deli ownership/history in southeast MI going back, say, 50 years. Volunteers?


            2. re: Fibber McGee
              Rheta Oct 12, 2009 12:00 PM

              We really miss Ron's as well. Also haven't tried the place that is there now. Maybe someone on here that has been will see this and will let us know.

            3. re: Rheta
              Ken H Dec 11, 2009 05:47 PM

              Ron's Bagel Deli (same owner) is at 14 Mile & Haggerty, right off M-5. Same great food.

              1. re: Ken H
                Fibber McGee Dec 14, 2009 03:41 AM

                Ron's has been closed for months, Ken. It's now called the Rye Bread Deli, and it is not the same people.

                1. re: Fibber McGee
                  Ken H Dec 16, 2009 07:21 PM

                  Sorry, did not know that. Thanks for the update.

                  1. re: Ken H
                    Fibber McGee Dec 17, 2009 04:21 AM

                    Not happy to make it. Ron's is missed. At least Siegel's is close.

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              MARISKANY Oct 12, 2009 07:45 AM

              There is a great Jewish bakery on Southfield Rd. between 12 and 13 mile. Their rye bread is great.

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              1. re: MARISKANY
                Rheta Oct 12, 2009 11:47 AM

                That's good to know. I'll pay them a visit sometime soon. Thanks.

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                  coney with everything Oct 13, 2009 06:11 AM

                  If you mean Zemans, it's closer to 13 Mile (across from the plaza where Penzeys is), and don't expect to visit on Saturday!

                  1. re: coney with everything
                    Fibber McGee Oct 13, 2009 09:15 AM

                    It is Shabbat, after all.

                    1. re: Fibber McGee
                      coney with everything Oct 14, 2009 05:12 AM

                      Absolutely. I only mention it because Star Bakery in Oak Park IS open on Saturday, so someone might expect Zemans to be as well.

                      1. re: coney with everything
                        Fibber McGee Oct 14, 2009 06:20 AM

                        Good point.

                        Semi-related, the Star Deli in Southfield, also, seems to be open Saturday.

                        1. re: coney with everything
                          berkleybabe Oct 15, 2009 07:54 PM

                          Star Bakery is our go-to place for pumpernickle, rye and they have a very good whole wheat - which isn't always offered. Less $ than lots of other places, chewy crust, a little bit of sour, coupla sizes, too. Open 7 day s week.

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