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TopoTail Oct 7, 2009 02:04 PM

Anybody know what's happening with the pizza place the Lalime's group was going to open next to Sea Salt? They gutted the space months ago, but peeking behind the paper on the window it's clear nothing has happened since.

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    lydiasohn Nov 29, 2010 05:52 AM

    We went there last night and treated some relatives. The staff were very friendly and we got some nice warm olives for our wait. The roasted chicken and the squid-ink linguine were excellent. The pizzas, however, were shockingly horrible. We all couldn't believe that a restaurant of this quality could make such bad pizzas--the pizzas were cold, the crusts were bland, cracker-like (not in a good sense), the toppings were just scattered. For example, the calamari pizza, described on the menu as calamari with aioli had a dried crust, no cheese, boiled baby squid as far as we could tell, and aioli squirted from a bottled in concentric circles--extremely unappetizing. The calamari just fell off as soon as anyone tried to take a slice. Delfina pizza this place is not...Save your money..

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    Delfina Restaurant
    3621 18th St, San Francisco, CA 94110

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    1. re: lydiasohn
      kellylee Nov 29, 2010 10:26 AM

      I'm sad to say that we had truly awful pizza when we went, too. Wrong one brought to the table, cold at that, the waiter said, "Oh you can nibble on while we make the correct pizza," but 5 or so minutes later, picked it up and said that he'd figured out who's it was-- and swooped it over to another table. Luckily, we hadn't nibbled... When our ordered pizza arrived it was as if it had been made an hour before--cold and hard. Too bad, I had such high hopes...

    2. Robert Lauriston Aug 18, 2010 05:08 PM

      Menu from the email:

      Antipasti
      Arancini, Risotto fritters with gorgonzola and herbs 6.75
      Caponata, Eggplant, pinenuts, red onions, mint, thyme and cocoa 5.50
      Cauliflower Fritti5.00
      Caprese salad, with buffalo mozzarella, heirloom tomatoes and Basil 9.50
      Salad with chicory and white anchovy, Caesar dressing 9.
      Romano beans, sun gold tomatoes and mustard seed vinaigrette 6.50
      Farrowith red onion, celery, fresh garbanzo, served with grilled radicchio 8.
      Fra-Mani Salami Gentile and Salami Toscanoserved on ciabatta 7.50
      Pate di cinghiali, wild boar pate, orange zest, fennel, carrot and spinach 8.

      Pizze
      Margherita 12.
      Napolitana 13.
      Mushroom, pepper and onion 14.50
      Calamari, sun gold tomato and aioli 16.00
      Pesto, rocket salad, Sausalito springs watercress and grana padana 15.50
      Parma prosciutto, pesto and mozzarella 17.00
      Calzone with ricotta and herbs 16.00

      More
      Conchiglia Gigante, conch shells with ricotta, basil and tomato sauce 8.25
      Fra- Mani Italian sausage sandwich(Spicy or Mild), Ciabatta and tomato sauce 10.50
      Porchetta 11.
      Roast pork belly and pork loin, with balsamic onions and plum mostarda
      Pollo Arrosto, wood oven roasted organic chicken half 11.

      Desserts 5.50
      Torta di mandorle(almond tart)
      Fresh Fruit Crostata
      Chocolate Duo cake(white and dark chocolate mousse cake)

      Wine List
      Reds
      2008 Matane Primitivo 6.50/24
      2008 Farnese Montepulciano D’abruzzo 5.5/20
      2007 Paitin Dolcetto D’alba 8/32
      2008 Vignavecchia Chianti Classico 7.50/29
      2009 Lalime’s Au Bon Climat Pinot Noir 8/32
      2005 Lalime’s Au Bon Climat Barbera 8/32

      Whites
      2008 Villa Matilde Fallanghina 6./25
      2008 Pieropan Soave 7.50/28
      2008 Cantina Cortaccia Pinot Grigio 6/22
      2008 Pio Cesar Cortese Di Gavi 10/38
      2009 Angeline Sauvignon Blanc 6/22
      2008 Lalime’s Au Bon Climat Chardonnay 8/32

      Beers
      Acme Pale Ale
      Allagash White Ale
      Birra Moretti
      Lost Coast Downtown Brown
      Scrimshaw Pilsner
      $ 5.00

      Affligem Tripel
      $ 8.00

      N.A. Beverages
      Pellegrino 0/500 ml 6.00/4.00
      Fresh orange or grapefruit juice 5.00
      orange or lemon soda 3.00
      Coke, Diet Coke or 7 up 2.50
      Espresso 2.
      Americano 3.50

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      Lalime's
      1329 Gilman, Berkeley, CA 94706

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        TopoTail Aug 18, 2010 09:15 PM

        Since it's in my 'hood, I've been waiting eagerly for Paisan to open. Just came back, and my impressions were mixed. It's a gorgeous space--a large square with a square bar in the middle and a beautiful outdoors area in the back, with lots of wood for the oven piled all over the place.

        As one can see from Robert's post, the menu is quite interesting. We had the Caponata and the Margherita pizza and a glass of the Dolcetto. What surprised me about the caponata was how sweet it was. Not sure if they added sugar, but it was quite sweet. Still, a nice spicy note, not reflected in the description, offset the sweetness, and in the end I liked it.

        But it's a pizza place, and I found the margherita disappointing. It certainly wasn't a bad pizza, just not in the same league with Delfina and some other places. There was a lot of cheese and hardly any tomato, so the balance was off. Couldn't taste the tomato at all. The crust was thin and tasty, and there was a nice char around the edge. It reminded me a bit of Dopo's margherita, except that the cheese on Dopo's is better. Here the salt in the cheese kind of blotted out the other flavors.

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        Dopo
        4293 Piedmont Ave, Oakland, CA 94611

        Delfina Restaurant
        3621 18th St, San Francisco, CA 94110

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          evacarleton Aug 20, 2010 12:59 PM

          We ate there last night. The interior space is really nice and open. We sat outside - very nice too. We had two pizzas - one with yellow cherry tomatoes, squid and aioli and one with pesto, rocket and grana padano. Both very lovely. I thought the dough and crust were great. If anything, on our pizzas, there was a minimal amount cheese. The flavors were enticing and service was great too. While I love the cheeseboard pizza, it is drowning in cheese; that is fine (and tasty) but I prefer a pizza that is more balanced like this one. We live in the neighborhood and we are thrilled to have another good place in walking distance.

          1. re: evacarleton
            majordanby Aug 20, 2010 04:12 PM

            would you say it's a welcoming place for a solo diner?

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              evacarleton Aug 26, 2010 11:36 AM

              Yes, definitely. There are bar stools around the open kitchen - I would go there by myself - sitting at the bar is always great.

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        dordogne Aug 18, 2010 04:53 PM

        Just opened today and menu looks promising. Wednesday-Sunday, 5-10pm

        http://us1.campaign-archive.com/?u=15...

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        1. re: dordogne
          Scott M Aug 18, 2010 05:26 PM

          In some parts of the email it is called Paison and other parts Paisan.

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            wolfe Aug 18, 2010 05:31 PM

            Possible problem with Italian as as fourth or fifth language for the Krikorians.;-)

            1. re: Scott M
              Robert Lauriston Aug 18, 2010 05:49 PM

              It's Paisan.

          2. JasmineG Aug 18, 2010 04:14 PM

            According to an email that I just got from the owners (I'm on the Sea Salt email list), it's Paison, and it's opening today at 5. Well, I assume today, they said Wednesday, August 17th, so that's either today or it already opened yesterday.

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            Sea Salt
            2512 San Pablo Avenue, Berkeley, CA 94702

            1. JasmineG Jul 22, 2010 04:21 PM

              It will apparently be called Paisan http://blogs.sfweekly.com/foodie/2010...

              1. Robert Lauriston Jul 19, 2010 08:32 AM

                There's definitely work going on in there. Big pizza oven. I was talking to a neighboring merchant and they said they heard it will not be called Falanghina. Liquor license still shows Krikorian (Lalime's / Sea Salt / T-Rex).

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                  TopoTail Jul 19, 2010 10:43 AM

                  Thanks Robert. I meant to post about it last week when I noticed they'd taken the paper off the window and were working in earnest. I have a vested interest in the place, as I live a block from there.

                2. Robert Lauriston Oct 7, 2009 04:53 PM

                  Falanghina. The city issued permits in May for a $35,000 seismic upgrade and $136,765 in tenant improvements, so it seems like they haven't abandoned it.

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                    TopoTail Oct 8, 2009 05:26 PM

                    Thanks for the info, Robert. I live a block from there and have a vested interest.

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