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This is Chowhound? In Austin?

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ridgeback Oct 6, 2009 07:11 AM

I'm bad at remembering names so resorted to search the board for the name "Hog Island Deli." Searching the term sandwich on the "search this board" feature brings up the following results.

Subway Sandwiches(0 Reviews)
(254) 628-7827 - 1100 Old Fm 440 Rd, Killeen, TX 76549.
Subway Sandwiches(0 Reviews)
(254) 634-7827 - 612 N Fort Hood St, Killeen, TX 76541.
Subway Sandwiches(0 Reviews)
(830) 379-8898 - 1341 E Court St, Seguin, TX 78155.
Subway Sandwich(0 Reviews)
(512) 835-4226 - 900 E Braker Ln, Austin, TX 78753

I'd like to think the Chowhound board is a place for people with at least knowledgeably picky or mildly sophisticated taste. The type of person who'd normally only set foot in a Subway if and only if they were desperate. Am I wrong? Are there people who'd drive from Austin to Killeen to go to a favored Subway? Or is this new advertising feature, which by the way isn't labeled as an ad, just another wayward and poorly targeted internet advertisement?

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    jwynne2000 RE: ridgeback Oct 6, 2009 07:33 AM

    I love the one in Killeen (the Fort Hood Street one, so as not to be confused with the inferior one on FM 440). I usually make the trip up there once a month or so just for their awesome ham and cheese. Something about the way the crew peels the ham (which has a real nitrate POP to it) off of the tissue paper... something in the technique....

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    1. re: jwynne2000
      iluvtennis RE: jwynne2000 Oct 6, 2009 02:33 PM

      Love it!

    2. Jacquilynne RE: ridgeback Oct 6, 2009 08:08 AM

      When we launched the new Places feature, we used a data supplier to supply us with the basic factual information about basically all of the restaurants in the USA, thus they're included in our database.

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      1. re: Jacquilynne
        rworange RE: Jacquilynne Oct 6, 2009 08:49 AM

        I thought there was going to be a feature in searching to be able to exclude fast food places? Is that still in the plans?

        1. re: rworange
          Chuckles the Clone RE: rworange Oct 12, 2009 10:29 PM

          Or at least the option of excluding "restaurants" that have no reviews.

        2. re: Jacquilynne
          Scargod RE: Jacquilynne Oct 25, 2009 06:14 AM

          I see I'm not the only Chowhound unhappy with chain food places hogging or diluting the search results. "We just used what we were given" seems like a thin excuse. You could edit the database.
          I would assume somebody made the conscious decision to include all the cookie-cutter, national chains?
          What does this say of Chow?
          Why can't we at least have the "restrict all this junk from showing up" check box?

          1. re: Scargod
            Jacquilynne RE: Scargod Oct 25, 2009 06:25 AM

            Engineering is working on eliminating some of the major fast food chains from the database for a future release.

            1. re: Jacquilynne
              Scargod RE: Jacquilynne Oct 25, 2009 06:27 AM

              Thank you, thank you! I knew taking out some of those pins would help.

              1. re: Scargod
                Jacquilynne RE: Scargod Oct 25, 2009 08:26 AM

                I don't know what you mean.

                1. re: Jacquilynne
                  Scargod RE: Jacquilynne Oct 25, 2009 08:52 AM

                  You are familiar with Voodoo Dolls? There can be positive and negative spells associated with voodoo dolls. I've decided to go positive.
                  I'm completly kidding, but how would you know?
                  I know you work very hard to make this a better site. I just hope I am not too much of a pin in the arse.

              2. re: Jacquilynne
                rworange RE: Jacquilynne Oct 25, 2009 01:23 PM

                ... you can't please all of the people all of the time

                I hope by 'removing' you mean flagging so there is a option to search without seeing the chains in the list.

                Personal tastes aside, sometimes a chain is the only option and I would like to know it is there. Otherwise I'll use other sites for restaurant info. I'm sure this is fine for some, but when I have to leave Chowhound to find info on other sites, I find mysel f using those other sites more.

                The reason I go to Starbucks at all is because sometimes at 5 am they are the only game in town open. Like it or not, often the only 24 hour joints are fast food. And when you are on the freeway, sometimes that's all there is. I sadly learned this one Thanksgiving on the road where I had my turkey dinner at Denny's.

                Having those restaurants in the database is every bit as useful as having a chains board. Sometimes you just need to know that info.

                Yes, I'd like the choice to opt out in a search, but AFAIK they are useful to me sometimes.

                1. re: rworange
                  Scargod RE: rworange Oct 25, 2009 06:37 PM

                  An option check box would suit me OK as an alternative solution.
                  I don't get you not going to Google (or Yelp), for info on chains and fast food places.
                  Seriously, if you go to Yelp you might not come back to Chowhound? If so, I know other sites you should never ever visit!

                  1. re: rworange
                    Mr Taster RE: rworange Oct 26, 2009 12:25 PM

                    Am I missing something, rworange? Why would you even think to come to Chowhound searching for mediocre/chain food? (Mind you, discussing chains is another issue entirely, perfectly relevant here)

                    If I were in a strange city and needed a Starbucks, a Waffle House, or any random smattering of restaurants in a specific area, Google maps accomplishes that task 1000 times more efficiently than Chowhound.

                    Mr Taster

                    1. re: Mr Taster
                      rworange RE: Mr Taster Oct 26, 2009 01:29 PM

                      My own hope was this latest restaurant load would give Chow a more complete database.

                      There are times when someone wants something open all night and I'll note that on restaurant records even if it is a chain, as I said ... sometimes the only game in town.

                      I can't search Google maps on open 24 hours.

                      Once I need to go to another site for info, it is rare that I don't find some interesting link to follow and don't return for a while. Actually having to use Yelp like that I've picked up a lot of good tips.

                      Seems a moot point anyway since they seem to be removing the major chain records with the release this week.

                      1. re: rworange
                        Mr Taster RE: rworange Oct 26, 2009 01:42 PM

                        Actually, in Google maps just find your location and type "24 hour restaurants". You'll find a place to eat in about 5 seconds... much quicker than chowhound, which is really not meant for that kind of quick-I-don't-care-as-long-as-it's-open-and-edible search.

                        Different sites for different purposes. Google maps could never do what chowhound does, and the reverse is also true.

                        Mr Taster

                        1. re: Mr Taster
                          Scargod RE: Mr Taster Oct 26, 2009 03:38 PM

                          Good point. This isn't where a few (two?), people are going to look for a Jack in the Box when they've been drinking all night and it's 2AM. You don't even look for those places in advance, do you?? All you gotta do is look around for neon...

                          We don't need a complete database. We need one where the food is way above average. We are "Chowhounds"!

                          1. re: Mr Taster
                            rworange RE: Mr Taster Oct 26, 2009 03:41 PM

                            Google really doesn't fit my needs. I'll turn to Yelp for my one stop looking to meet my requirements. Thanks anyway,..

                            1. re: rworange
                              Mr Taster RE: rworange Oct 26, 2009 03:53 PM

                              There's a level of depth and analysis on Chowhound that exists in few other places on the net, and the greatest treasures you can find are the ones you mine from research. Yelp is quite different in that it's emphasis is on popularity rather than substance. Bandwagoning is much more of a problem on Yelp than it is on Chowhound.

                              We're like the national library of the foodiverse whereas Yelp is the newsstand filled with screaming tabloids. There's a place for it, but they serve different purposes.

                              Mr Taster

                              1. re: Mr Taster
                                rworange RE: Mr Taster Oct 26, 2009 04:02 PM

                                Just as you have to mine treasures from Chowhound, the same is true of Yelp. Actually some real gems on Chowhound started as stufff I found on Yelp and either tried or asked about.

                                I had a similar feeling about yelp. However the constant long, long periods of awful, untested, periodic installations sent me over to Yelp because when this site is too buggy, I need to go elswere untill things get better.

                                I will admit you have to deal with the attitude reviews and after a while the shills are easy to spot, but the green M&M principle applies there as well.

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