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I made a risotto the other night, let me tell you...

Den Oct 5, 2009 03:59 PM

I think risotto is kind of an unsung hero of the pasta world probably because it's a little harder to make and takes longer than other pastas. However, the effort to me is really worth it. I made a simple risotto with shallots, porcinis, veal stock, white wine and pecorino cheese and you could have eaten it until you were ill. It's a versatile ingredient and I was wondering what favorite adds others have for risotto?

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    KTinNYC RE: Den Oct 5, 2009 04:24 PM

    Rice is not pasta.

    I like all types of risotto but this time of the year butternut squash puree makes for a nice addition.

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      4Snisl RE: Den Oct 5, 2009 04:28 PM

      I'm intrigued- what kind of starch did you use in your risotto? Were the porcinis fresh or dried? Sounds delicious!

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        Den RE: 4Snisl Oct 6, 2009 04:29 AM

        The porcinis were dried and I add the rehydrating water to the risotto.

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          fourunder RE: 4Snisl Oct 6, 2009 06:10 AM

          I'm intrigued- what kind of starch did you use in your risotto?

          Barley makes a nice twist for Risotto. I also see many recipes using California Pearl Rice, which I have no idea what that is......I always use vegetables of the season with chicken stock.....asparagus and mushrooms being the most popular.....when making mushroom risotto, I will use the liquid from hydrating the porcini mushrooms too.

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            c oliver RE: fourunder Oct 6, 2009 07:05 AM

            Ooh, I really like the barley twist. Unlike pasta it would/should absorb all the liquid, wouldn't it?

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              fourunder RE: c oliver Oct 6, 2009 07:24 AM

              The first time I saw Barley Risotto was on an episode of Michael Chiarello's cooking show...he made it more of a creamy/loose texture.....but yes, it absorbs a lot of liquid to make.


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                BobB RE: fourunder Oct 7, 2009 01:23 PM

                I'd never heard of barley risotto until I had it at a restaurant in Prague a few weeks ago. It was done fairly dry but still creamy, quite savory, served as a bed for roast quail. Delicious!

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                  c oliver RE: BobB Oct 7, 2009 01:35 PM

                  Poor baby. I know it took a real effort on your part to gag down those quail, huh? My daddy used to hunt quail and dove and I remember those meals fondling. On a bed of (any kind of) risotto would be gilding the lily. Good for you.

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                    BobB RE: c oliver Oct 7, 2009 01:41 PM

                    And that was just the appetizer - it was followed by the most tender venison I've ever eaten!

                    P.S. I suspect you meant to write "fondly," not "fondling." I hope that's just a typo and not repressed memory syndrome. ;-)

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                      raygunclan RE: BobB May 29, 2010 07:35 PM

                      i know that i'm a little late to the party on this one, but... haha! bob i was thinking the same thing but would not have phrased it quite so eloquently! :)

        2. c oliver RE: Den Oct 5, 2009 04:32 PM

          After you tell us about the pasta part, did you make your own veal stock? If you bought it, where pray tell? Isn't there a law that one HAS to eat risotto until ill???

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            Den RE: c oliver Oct 6, 2009 04:28 AM

            It's our own veal stock. I get it from the restaurant where I work.

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              c oliver RE: Den Oct 6, 2009 04:36 AM

              Lucky you. But I'm still wondering what pasta you use and how you make it work. I just can't get my brain around that.

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                Den RE: c oliver Oct 6, 2009 05:58 AM

                I use risotto of course and as I was corrected by the New Yorker, it's not a pasta although I think of it as one.

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                  c oliver RE: Den Oct 6, 2009 06:34 AM

                  I have lots of pastas and lots of rices but arborio stands alone :) I've never thought of it as a pasta though.

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                    Gio RE: c oliver Oct 6, 2009 08:05 AM

                    CO... I know you know that Arborio is a short grained Rice from the Piedmont region of Italy, actually named after the municipality of the same name..... Not A Pasta.

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                      heypielady RE: c oliver Oct 6, 2009 12:21 PM

                      Instead of arborio rice, try carnaroli rice. My Roman cousin swears it's "the best" and my god he is right. Perfect risotto every time.

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                        c oliver RE: heypielady Oct 6, 2009 12:39 PM

                        I'll check that out - once I use up all the arborio (rice). :)

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                      scubadoo97 RE: Den Dec 11, 2009 12:34 PM

                      why do you think of it as a pasta?

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                        BobB RE: scubadoo97 Dec 11, 2009 01:03 PM

                        Let's see - a starchy, often cheesy (in the good sense) side dish - yeah, I can see that.

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                          ChristinaMason RE: BobB Dec 12, 2009 06:50 AM

                          you actually can make risotto with pasta. my friend makes a saffron one using orzo that he is famous for. i keep making him promise to share the recipe.

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                        Bada Bing RE: Den Apr 26, 2010 09:58 AM

                        Didn't that sweet movie Big Night have a scene where the Italian purist chef refused to serve a customer a risotto and a pasta dish (because in his view that's like ordering two of the first course and ignoring the second course?

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                          bushwickgirl RE: Bada Bing Apr 26, 2010 10:19 AM

                          Yes, and IIRC, there was the short scene where the female customer (I think it was Caroline Aaron) complained about the shrimp risotto not containing any shrimp...

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                    stuck in Hartford County RE: c oliver Oct 7, 2009 06:30 AM

                    If you don't have restaurant veal stock, you can buy a pretty decent shelf-stable veal stock concentrate at the grocery store by a company called More Than Gournet (Demi-Glace Gold). I use it quite a bit.

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                      c oliver RE: stuck in Hartford County Oct 7, 2009 07:38 AM

                      I've used the chicken and read on CH about the others. I need to check that out. Thanks for the reminder.

                  3. MMRuth RE: Den Oct 6, 2009 04:38 AM

                    One of my favorites is a risotto with chopped fresh tomatoes, cubed smoked mozzarella and basil. I used chicken stock when I make it.

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                      c oliver RE: MMRuth Oct 6, 2009 04:50 AM

                      Wow, a summertime twist, eh? Back in the spring I made one with black trumpet mushrooms from our farmers market. Sigh.

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                        white light RE: MMRuth Oct 6, 2009 09:33 PM

                        Try adding the leftover juices from canned San Marzano tomatoes to the stock (along with some wine). I made one last week and it turned out great.

                      2. coll RE: Den Oct 6, 2009 04:51 AM

                        Someday I'm going to try that risotto with gorgonzola dolce and toasted pistachios, the recipe that's been floating around here for five years or more. Like the day I wake up and find that I have miraculously lost 10 lbs overnight.....


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                          itryalot RE: coll Oct 9, 2009 04:24 AM

                          I love that post and the comments and posts on that. An enteraining read!

                        2. Paula76 RE: Den Oct 6, 2009 06:48 AM

                          I've done that exact same risotto a couple of times and it's truly wonderful! Risotto is one of my favourite 'lazy' dishes as I find it's very versatile and so easy to make. I sometimes use arborio or carnaroli rice and other times, I make it using barley (delicious and healthy too). I also use butternut squash puree and other times, pureéd roasted beets, leek and thyme.
                          Toasted pine nuts work well as do sundried tomatoes.

                          1. Pata_Negra RE: Den Oct 6, 2009 07:01 AM

                            i don't like rice so much but do make risotto sometimes, however am partial to 'nice' mushrooms and shellfish. my favourites are: 1) shiitake and magret de canard. 2)Arroz de Berbigão [cockles/clams or any shellfish really]

                            1. thew RE: Den Oct 6, 2009 07:33 AM

                              ive done rabbit and duck risottos, veg ones, mushroom ones, almost anything can work.

                              i also like using leftover risotto as a filling for an omelette

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                                eviemichael RE: thew Oct 6, 2009 07:59 AM

                                A couple weeks ago I made a honeydew melon and prosciutto risotto, it was yummy!

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                                  c oliver RE: thew Oct 6, 2009 12:40 PM

                                  You taught me about oven polenta. Is there a version for risotto???

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                                    GretchenS RE: c oliver Oct 7, 2009 02:23 PM

                                    Delia Smith makes an oven version (see link) which I have made for years. Risotto purists will cry foul but the fact is, if the choice is this or no risotto, it is everyone's own choice to make. ;) (Once you get the technique, such as it is, you can convert most any risotto recipe, although out of respect, I would never try the gorgonzola dolce pistachio one this way.) http://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/ty...

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                                  howchow RE: Den Oct 6, 2009 08:30 AM

                                  One of the most simple is a celery risotto - I add onion, wine, chicken stock, fresh black pepper and about 2 cups chopped celery added in additions throughout the cooking time and of course a tbsp butter and parm to finish it off. Sometimes I also substitute some fennel in place of half the celery.

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                                    c oliver RE: howchow Oct 6, 2009 12:41 PM

                                    Celery sounds really good. How small do you chop it?

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                                      howchow RE: c oliver Oct 6, 2009 07:00 PM

                                      I discard the the outer most green ribs - then slice about 1/4 inch including the leafy tops.

                                  2. BiscuitBoy RE: Den Oct 6, 2009 08:52 AM

                                    bacon and peas at the very end w/Parmigiano Reg

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                                      litchick RE: BiscuitBoy Oct 8, 2009 06:08 PM

                                      Tonight I did bacon and onion as the base, then late in the process added a few scant chopped canned tomatoes and a bit of their juice, some anchovy paste, a tablespoon or so of chevre, and grated percorino. Finished on the plate with a drizzle of aged balsamic and grey sea salt. Yum.

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                                      amazinc RE: Den Oct 6, 2009 12:47 PM

                                      All of these risottos sound delish, but if you are lucky enough to have any left, make Barbara Figaroa's (Seattle Chef) risotto cake topped with a wild mushroom ragu. Pack the left over risotto into a buttered English muffin ring (or a 3" ring mold of any kind). Place grated pecorino cheese on a plate and dredge both sides of the risotto in the cheese. Melt more butter in a non-stick skillet and cook the cakes until toasted on each side. Slide onto a plate and remove ring. Top with warm mushroom ragu. Eat 'til you're ill. I guarantee the weight gain is worth the absolute ecstasy.

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                                        c oliver RE: amazinc Oct 6, 2009 01:12 PM

                                        OMG, that sounds incredible. Thanks ALOT for sharing.

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                                          macca RE: amazinc Oct 7, 2009 10:44 AM

                                          LOVE risotto cakes. Dom't make risotto too often, but when I do, I make sure I will have enough left overs to make the risotto cakes. Sometimes I even enjoy them more than the original dish

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                                            coll RE: macca Oct 7, 2009 10:50 AM

                                            Arborio rice makes the best rice balls too.

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                                          normalheightsfoodie RE: Den Oct 6, 2009 02:04 PM

                                          I will sometimes use a mild white fish, scallops or shrimp. When using shrimp, you can use the tails for the stock.

                                          1. Caitlin McGrath RE: Den Oct 6, 2009 06:24 PM

                                            Two I like in addition to some mentioned already:

                                            A basic risotto milanese (finely chopped onion, saffron) made with chicken or vegetable stock, with sauteed wild mushrooms and baby arugula leaves folded in at the end.

                                            A simple risotto made with onions, garlic, chicken stock, with Meyer lemon zest and juice added near the end of cooking, finished with a bit of butter and little or no cheese. This is a nice side with roast chicken.

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                                              writergeek313 RE: Den Oct 6, 2009 07:56 PM

                                              Seeing an ad for a Chow vegetable risotto dish is actually what got me to first visit this site. I tried it last spring and was hooked. I know I'm going to be experimenting with risottos a lot this fall and winter. Somebody just passed a recipe on to me for a risotto that includes bacon and carmelized onions, which sounded heavenly. I think that will be my next experiment!

                                              1. NYchowcook RE: Den Oct 7, 2009 08:59 AM

                                                I love risotto, don't get me wrong. But lately when in the kitchen I opt for barley.
                                                A whole grain (well, almost) versus white rice.

                                                And so much easier to cook -- no constant stirring, and yet delicious. Absorbs all the flavors of risotto yet you can feel smug (and happily satiated) by subbing barley.

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                                                  jmullen1251 RE: NYchowcook Oct 7, 2009 09:12 AM

                                                  i agree - barley risotto is a fall fave - i've copied a dish i had at a local cambridge eatery that's a barley risotto with pumpkin, pancetta and peas - feels like home...

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                                                    coll RE: jmullen1251 Oct 7, 2009 10:38 AM

                                                    That sounds so, so good, but I've never made risotto with barley. Any hints?

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                                                      jmullen1251 RE: coll Oct 7, 2009 10:48 AM

                                                      hey there - i actually make it much in the same way that i would a traditional risotto. i roast the pumpkin, cubed, like i would for butternut squash and add to sauteed onions, and garlic that are cooked with the pancetta. i add the barley and let it toast a bit in the saute, then start adding my liquids - some white wine and then, gradually, heated chicken stock. parm, butter and frozen peas go in at the end - hope you like it as much as i do!

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                                                        jmullen1251 RE: jmullen1251 Oct 7, 2009 10:50 AM

                                                        sometimes i'll even make a risotto-style dish with israeli couscous - i really like the texture. i usually make that version with butternut squash (a standard for fall), pancetta (i'm nothing if not consistent) and feta instead of parm.

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                                                          coll RE: jmullen1251 Oct 7, 2009 10:51 AM

                                                          Thanks for the quick reply! I know I will love it before I even make it. Can hardly wait......

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                                                    Bainbridge Cook RE: Den Oct 7, 2009 10:49 AM

                                                    I know this sounds like heresy and I love a traditional hand-stirred risotto, but we often make ours in a pressure cooker. I agree carnoli seems to work the best. I can have it on the table in 10 minutes and it's delicious. In the summer I use onion in the pot at the start and add in sauteed zucchini and fresh basil and oregano with the cheese at the end. In the winter we use frozen organic cobed butternut squash that I toss in with the rice. Super simple and comforting

                                                    1. mbfant RE: Den Oct 8, 2009 10:52 PM

                                                      This thread is making me wonder whether I have missed a new terminological trend.

                                                      According to standard Italian terminology, pasta and risotto are both primi piatti, but pasta is not a synonym of primo piatto, merely the most common type of primo. That is to say, the terms pasta and risotto cannot be used interchangeably, though the dishes are indeed interchangeable (you would have one or the other in a meal as your primo, not both, except perhaps as tiny portions in a tasting menu).

                                                      Likewise, barley cannot be the main ingredient in a risotto, because the main ingredient in a risotto by definition has to be rice. Barley is orzo, and orzo cooked in a way similar to rice cooked as risotto is called orzotto.

                                                      Thus, the question what kind of starch did you use in your risotto has to be answered with "rice," but that would sound too smart-alecky, so really it would have to be "arborio" or "carnaroli" or some other rice variety.

                                                      The Latini pasta company makes a pasta shape called pennette, which are too small to handle like normal pasta, though not small enough to be treated like a pastina, so they publish a recipe titled Pennette Cooked in the Manner of Risotto. Their pasta is particularly starchy and absorbent, so the recipe makes sense. But the point is what they call it: it's not rice, so it's not called risotto, merely in the manner of.

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                                                        c oliver RE: mbfant Oct 9, 2009 05:01 AM

                                                        I think in the beginning, the OP mis-wrote and used pasta instead of rice. Then others have used a "shorthand" of barley risotto when they actually mean "in the manner of risotto." But I thought barley was a grain and the orzo I use in dishes (not risotto-esque) is definitely a pasta and not a grain. I AM confused now.

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                                                          miki RE: mbfant Dec 11, 2009 03:14 PM

                                                          I have made a "pasta risotto" from a recipe in the New York Times using a small penne, and it was good, but just not quite as comforting as arborio risotto. I tried substituting a Pecorino Romano for my usual parmesan once, and it didn't have the same bite. I also made a mushroom risotto and didn't take into account the moisture leaking from the mushrooms, so it was mooshy. I think I'd add the mushrooms at the end from now on. There's a Risotto with Gorgonzola in Lidia Bastianich's book, Lidia Cooks From the Heart of Italy, that I am simply going to have to try next!

                                                          Oh, and for the wine? I just use Trader Joe's Three Buck Chuck - the Chardonnay.

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                                                            jinglejangle RE: miki Dec 12, 2009 09:01 AM

                                                            I'm trying that NYTimes recipe tonite, any advice?

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                                                              miki RE: jinglejangle Dec 13, 2009 10:33 AM

                                                              Sorry to have missed your post; I was actually picking up my son - who'd first tried the recipe - who came in on the bus from Chicago for the holidays. His advice is to remember to add the heated broth slowly.

                                                              How did it turn out?

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                                                                jinglejangle RE: miki Dec 13, 2009 08:13 PM

                                                                thanks! I got sidetracked and didn't make it, hope to get to it this week and will report back.

                                                        2. The Chowhound Team RE: Den Oct 9, 2009 10:38 AM

                                                          Hi, folks. Please keep the focus here on preparing risotto. Discussion of what risotto is (and isn't) is a topic for the General Chowhounding board. http://chowhound.chow.com/boards/27
                                                          Thanks very much.

                                                          1. Perilagu Khan RE: Den Dec 11, 2009 12:29 PM

                                                            I make a quattro formagio number with fontina, mozzarella, gorgonzola and romano that will knock your socks off, if I may be so bold.

                                                            1. stuck in Hartford County RE: Den Dec 12, 2009 06:22 AM

                                                              If there was a post for "Foods You **ck Up Every Time You Cook Them" risotto would be at the top of my (short) list. Maybe even the only thing. I just cannot make risotto come out the way I want it to. Never. Ever.

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                                                                bushwickgirl RE: stuck in Hartford County Dec 12, 2009 06:42 AM

                                                                It's good that you only have a short list.;-)
                                                                Keep at it, you'll get the technique down and then your short list will be non-existent!
                                                                The thing I've found with risotto that, even if you don't get it right, it usually still tastes good.

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                                                                  c oliver RE: stuck in Hartford County Dec 12, 2009 06:46 AM

                                                                  A CH, who's a VERY good cook, recently shared this oven-baked risotto recipe with me. I haven't tried it yet but if SHE likes it then I know it's going to be good. After making polenta in the oven, I've never wanted to do it any other way.


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                                                                    stuck in Hartford County RE: c oliver Dec 12, 2009 07:01 AM

                                                                    Hmmm. I'm in the "I Hate Cooking Risotto Club!" But always open to challenge (oven-baked risotto!). I'll take the "foolproof" Martha/risotto challenge. Will report on results, soon. The list of failed recipes is long, indeed!

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                                                                      c oliver RE: stuck in Hartford County Dec 12, 2009 07:21 AM

                                                                      I won't blow her cover but this CH is really in the stratosphere IMO so I don't think she'd lead me/us astray Report back please.

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                                                                        Gio RE: stuck in Hartford County Dec 12, 2009 07:29 AM

                                                                        And then we have Lady Delia's Oven-Baked Wild Mushroom Risotto:


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                                                                          c oliver RE: Gio Dec 12, 2009 07:37 AM

                                                                          Oh, wow, wild mushroom risotto is one of my faves. Somehow I think the temp of 2,300 F is wrong :)

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                                                                            Gio RE: c oliver Dec 12, 2009 07:46 AM

                                                                            CO... read that Gas Mark 2, (or) 300F, (or)150C

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                                                                              c oliver RE: Gio Dec 12, 2009 08:16 AM

                                                                              Ah, got it. Thanks, Gio. I'm considering making this Tuesday at MIL's. Her range top burners are junk but the oven is accurate (I checked it). My fresh mushroom choices may be limited (will check at WF once we get to Reno). Would it be acceptable to substitue button mushrooms? Not as good I know but....

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                                                                                Gio RE: c oliver Dec 12, 2009 08:33 AM

                                                                                After all the cooking I've done I say, sure. Use whatever mushrooms you can get. And, yes, they won't have the dwpth of flavor wild one do but if you sauté them in a bit of butter with S & P before continuing with the recipe you'll add a bit more flavor to them. Good Luck!~

                                                                  2. thew RE: Den Dec 14, 2009 03:51 AM

                                                                    i made one last night w/ peas shrimp and kassler ripchen, using homemade shrimp stock and manchego cheese

                                                                    1. banjoman2375 RE: Den May 29, 2010 03:10 PM

                                                                      I made the best risotto I've ever made the other day. I started with white onions. I added the rice and toasted it for longer than I've done before. I added the stock, and it was the first time I've ever continuously stirred it like you're SUPPOSED to. I always kinda faked it before. Once it was cooked, I folded in a healthy dose of Boursin cheese and a couple handfuls of good quality frozen peas. Finished with a bit of parm, then I sprinkled some freshly cut pea shoots over the bowls.

                                                                      It was SUBLIME!

                                                                      1. honkman RE: Den Jun 12, 2010 07:48 PM

                                                                        We recently made a very good risotto with sausages.
                                                                        Italian cuisine is often characterized as driven by seasons and being focused on very few ingredients in each dish. For us the dish which symbolizes this philosophy most is risotto


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