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<topic>
  <id>656072</id>
  <title>Authentic Italian Beef Sandwiches in OC?</title>
  <published_at>Wed Sep 30 11:15:06 -0700 2009</published_at>
  <post_count>16</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>2</id>
    <name>Los Angeles Area</name>
  </board>
  <posts>
    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>5069915</id>
        <content>A friend swears that an Italian beef sandwich from Chicago is one of the best sanwiches around.  Any one know of a place I can get one in Orange County?  Thanks.</content>
        <published_at>Wed Sep 30 11:15:06 -0700 2009</published_at>
        <parent_id></parent_id>
        <user>
          <id>192487</id>
          <name>tmarr1</name>
        </user>
      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5070001</id>
      <content>Portillo's on La Palma in Buena Park.  It's a Chicago-based chain.  They also do Chicago-style hot dogs.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Sep 30 11:39:05 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5069915</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11553</id>
        <name>Jack Flash</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5070008</id>
      <content>I second Portillo's.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Sep 30 11:41:21 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5070001</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>234367</id>
        <name>wienermobile</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>5070029</id>
      <content>Third.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Sep 30 11:46:03 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5070008</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>14405</id>
        <name>TomSwift</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>5070062</id>
      <content>Motion carried.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Sep 30 11:56:05 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5070029</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10811</id>
        <name>Das Ubergeek</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>5070226</id>
      <content>In Chicago I never go to Portillo's, but they undoubtedly have the best beef in the hinterland, which doesn't actually say a lot, since it's much easier to find a decent Chicago-style hot dog than a thin-sliced, juicy, and delectable beef. The OP should be sure to have it dipped (in that beautiful juice, or gravy) and order it with hot giardiniera (sport peppers and other pickled vegetables). I do recommend Portillo's chocolate cake shake without reservation.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Sep 30 13:04:18 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5070062</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>281830</id>
        <name>Harry Nile</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5070453</id>
      <content>I hate going to Portillo's.....
can never make up my mind what to have. 
They got good Italian beef, hot dogs, chop salads and now I've found they've got good burgers too.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Sep 30 14:42:41 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5070001</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11914</id>
        <name>monku</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>5072586</id>
      <content>Yeah, I tried the burger for the first time on my last visit to Portillo's, and I was impressed.  That and the Italian beef with cheddar on croissant made for a great meal.

How is the strawberry shortcake there?  I've been meaning to try that on my last 3 visits, but I don't think my stomach will stretch enough.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Oct 01 11:25:44 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5070453</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13291</id>
        <name>Wonginator</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>5072962</id>
      <content>I couldn't make it to Portillo's so I stopped at a favorite taco truck in ELA and had carnitas on a kaiser roll with mayo and honey-mustard.

Whatever thought is going through your head right now is probably similar to mine when I read about that "[allegedly] Italian beef with cheddar on croissant." I see from their menu that Portillo's does indeed offer such a thing (I'd never noticed it in dozens of visits -- a psychological block?), but the OP is acting on information "that an Italian beef sandwich from Chicago is one of the best sanwiches around" and should, therefore, be pointed in the direction of Portillo's "Italian Beef" or "Big Beef" or "Combo Beef &amp; Char-Grilled Sausage," not their "Beef-N-Cheddar Croissant," which was probably invented by White Sox fans.

By the way, when I ordered my carnitas w/mayo, several nearby 'hound-types gave me really dirty looks -- or was it because of my "Chicago 2016" T-shirt? You know who you are.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Oct 01 13:27:35 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5072586</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>281830</id>
        <name>Harry Nile</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>5073231</id>
      <content>Mayo  is  a  typical  condiment  for  a  torta.  Applied  to  the  bread  which  is  then  grilled  prior  to  loading  up  the  ingredients.  </content>
      <published_at>Thu Oct 01 16:07:29 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5072962</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10883</id>
        <name>JAB</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>6</level>
      <id>5073800</id>
      <content>Yeah, mea culpa, I was rolling too fast, but, actually, I now see torta recipes on the Web that include honey-mustard or use kaiser rolls! I have a couple of nieces from Mexico, so I'll see if they would recommend those to someone who wants to try tortas. I hope not, and I hope the OP in this thread goes with the real Italian beef at Portillo's or Chicago's Best. This famous sandwich needs not only tender and thin-sliced (not shaved) beef roasted with Italian spices but also a fragrant and tangy gravy, deliciously oily giardiniera, and substantial Italian loaf to hold it all together.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Oct 01 21:36:19 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5073231</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>281830</id>
        <name>Harry Nile</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5070107</id>
      <content>I  won't  disagree  with  the  other's  but, there's  Chicago's  Best  in  Irvine  owned  by  the  son  of  the  former  Giorgio's  from  Aliso  Viejo.  I  haven't  been  but, if  it's  half  as  good  as  his  fathers  place  was  ...      </content>
      <published_at>Wed Sep 30 12:11:50 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5069915</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10883</id>
        <name>JAB</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5070321</id>
      <content>OP, you've got the 2 main choices here...Portillo's in BP and Chicago's Best in Irvine. Both are very good renditions of what you can get in and around the Chicago area. 

Portillo's is a quasi-fast food place with a lot of good food...burgers, hot dogs, sandwiches, salads, and featured both indoor and outdoor seating. A great place for a casual family lunch or dinner.

Chicago's Best is in a non-descript food court and they do a LOT of local catering business. Hours are strange (close at 6 and no weekends), but the food is great. Very good ribs there as well and some of the best french fries around. Their sandwiches tend to be a bit bigger than what you get at Portillo's. They also do some great pizza, but only on the 2nd and last Fridays of a month (to avoid conflict with the food court pizza place).

FYI, one of the real ways to enjoy italian beef is to order a "combo"...a combination of the italian beef and an italian sausage. Really good stuff.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Sep 30 13:37:17 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5070107</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10957</id>
        <name>RSMBob</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>5072595</id>
      <content>Re: Chicago's Best hours, the food court gets most of its business from the business lunch crowd, so that's why there are no nightly or weekend hours, as the nearby business areas become ghost towns outside the Monday-Friday 8AM-5PM hours.

When ordering the Italian beef sandwich, don't forget to add the spicy or sweet peppers.  I prefer the sweet peppers.

Just a warning on the ribs at Chicago's Best, they are very popular and sometimes run out, as they did in 2 of my last 4 visits.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Oct 01 11:32:10 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5070321</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13291</id>
        <name>Wonginator</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>5074371</id>
      <content>Definitely get the spicy giardiniera with the Italian beef. The bread Chicago's Best uses is not an Italian roll like Portillos though...more like a french roll, probably from a Vietnamese bakery. It not dense enough to hold up well to the wetness of Italian beef, so it disintegrates as soon as you pick it up. </content>
      <published_at>Fri Oct 02 07:49:58 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5072595</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>94691</id>
        <name>Tapeworm</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>5086128</id>
      <content>I made it to Chicago's best and got the Italian Beef sandwich, with hot peppers.  Since I wanted to taste the beef on its own, I got the juice on the side.  I'm glad I did.  Tapeworm describes the bread perfectly and when the server pulled the beef out of the hot tub of au jus, the bread was plenty wet already.  I can't imagine if they dipped the roll.  It was difficult to keep together but the taste was great.  It remided me of a Cheesesteak minus the cheese and with the great italian flavors.  The fries were also good but be careful because they fry them up for each order and were lava hot.  Thank you all for the info and I will repost when I get to Portillos.  Can't wait.
</content>
      <published_at>Wed Oct 07 12:50:50 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5074371</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>192487</id>
        <name>tmarr1</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5070326</id>
      <content>Thanks for the input.  I was pleased to find Chicago's Best close to my home so tomorrow I venture into Italian Beef territory.  Nice.  I will follow that up with a trip to Portillo's next week.  Chowhounders, many thanks.  I'll keep you posted on my findings.  </content>
      <published_at>Wed Sep 30 13:39:32 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5069915</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>192487</id>
        <name>tmarr1</name>
      </user>
    </post>
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