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Querencia Sep 27, 2009 02:07 PM

My query on another board led me to confusion so now I am here. I want to make an old-fashioned malted milk that has a strong flavor of malt. The only product I am finding retail in Chicago is Carnation which is horribly sweet. and has no discernible flavor of malt. Somebody suggested using barley malt powder as it has a stronger malt flavor---same person said that malted milk powder sold for drinks is mixed with other stuff. But when I google barley malt powder, it's recommended for baking (Barry Farms, l lb barley malt powder) and doesn't mention drinks. Does anyone know if barley malt powder is actually used in malted milk drinks? I don't want it for baking. The iideal correspondent I'm really looking for is an ex-soda jerk from the 1940's and 1950's who remembers what drugstores used to use then. I haven't had a malt-tasting malted milk in about forty years.

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    wolseley Sep 27, 2009 03:34 PM

    Greetings from a fellow malt fan! I see someone broached the subject a few years ago here on CHOW: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/306153

    To sum it up, it looks like you want Horlick's powder. I'm going to track some down myself! I was just thinking about malt powder yesterday as I prepared one of my favorite smoothies: ripe banana, milk, unsweetened cocoa, a glug of vanilla, pinch of salt and a few ice cubes. Grind like mad in your Vitamix, and out comes a glorious, thick, chocolate-banana treat that tastes like it has malt in it already. No sugar needed.

    And now, to seek out some Horlick's, so that I may gild the lily which is my smoothie...

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      wolseley Sep 27, 2009 03:41 PM

      I see several sources for Horlick's, which seems to be especially popular in the UK (you can buy it online at all those British import sites) although it's made, or at least headquartered in Racine WI!

      however, you might want to try this malt powder, NOW foods brand:
      http://www.vitasprings.com/malted-mil...

      That's one of the natural-foods companies that puts out stuff like specialty flours. I think I'll get some myself!

      1. Paulustrious Sep 29, 2009 09:33 AM

        It is still used as a drink in the UK. The two major brands are Ovaltine and Horlicks. You can find these in many Asian supermarkets (at least in Toronto) as it is popular in Hong Kong.

        It just occurred to me - I wonder if you can use it when making yoghurt? I must 'sacrifice' a litre next time and find out.

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          Paulustrious Oct 15, 2009 07:01 AM

          Tried it. It worked somewhat, but it ended up slightly 'grainy'. I have had the same unfortunate effect adding additional protein in the form of protein drinks and milk powder.

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          Querencia Oct 14, 2009 04:32 PM

          A note to all seeking Horlick's Malted Milk powder---I went to order it online but shipping was running as much as or more than the cost of the Horlick's. Then I saw on Wikipedia that the nation that consumes the most Horlick's is India, so I went to an Indian commercial neighborhood and found it immediately---in Chicago this is Devon Avenue, shop was Patel's big supermarket, but I can't say about anywhere else. $4.99 for a giant jar, and no shipping cost.

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            LauraGrace Oct 15, 2009 09:21 AM

            Great idea!! There are a handful of Indian groceries in the Louisville, KY area, too.

            Is Milo malted? There are cans of Milo in the Mexican food aisles of my local grocery stores.

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              Eldon Kreider Oct 15, 2009 02:59 PM

              Patel Brothers started in Chicago but has grown into a fair chain with stores in 19 states plus Ontario. Some of the other stores are even larger than their flagship store in Chicago. One of their stores is in Louisville, KY. For locations: http://www.patelbros.com/ourstores.html

            2. maplesugar Oct 15, 2009 10:21 AM

              King Arthur Flours sells a range of Malt products including malted milk powder: http://www.kingarthurflour.com/shop/i... and according to the nutritional info it doesn't contain sugar. :)

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                Querencia Oct 15, 2009 09:04 PM

                Greetings and thanks to all. After seeing on Wikipedia that the nation consuming the most Horlick's is India, I went to Chicago's Indian shopping street, Devon Avenue, and there I found jars of Horlick's on the shelf at Patel's big supermarket. $4.99 for 400 grams. BTW if you can get to a Patel's (as Eldon Kreider says it's now a chain) try the new SWAD line of flavored ketchups such as Chili Garlic and Sweet Hot.

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                  kmcarr Oct 16, 2009 06:38 AM

                  Malt by definition contains sugar. The sugar is maltose, created by conversion of the grain's starch reserves as part of the malting process. Just because the ingredient list doesn't say "sugar" doesn't mean that there is not sugar in some form in the product. The nutritional label states that one serving contains 3 grams of sugar. The serving size is 6 grams; 50% of each serving is sugar. Still, it's only 3 grams which isn't very significant.

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                    maplesugar Oct 16, 2009 07:54 AM

                    I just meant it didn't have added sugar like those people were posting were too sweet. I should have been more specific.

                2. RickL Oct 17, 2009 10:41 AM

                  CTL Foods in Colfax, WI sells a soda fountain malted milk powder that's very good. I use it when making chocolate, coffee, or mocha ice cream.

                  http://www.ctlcolfax.com/maltedmilk.htm

                  1. Zeldog Oct 17, 2009 09:00 PM

                    Think of barley malt powder is just another sugar. If you substitute some for cane sugar in a milkshake you have a malted milk. Simple as that. Yes, you can also use it for baking, and for making beer as well. I don't know what's in Horlick's, but if it's like Carnation and contains powdered milk, cane sugar, or anything other than barley malt (aka diastatic malt powder), don't buy it. If you buy malt powder from a store that serves bakers or brewers, you can be sure you have the right stuff.

                    1. jira Jul 7, 2010 02:53 PM

                      I'm in Boston, so I can't say anything about sources local to Chicago. A HUGE Korean grocery store opened here about a year ago. Name is H-Mart, I think, a national chain. I bought some "Fine Malt Flour" there. There were actually a number of similar products. My first use of it in baking was disastrous. I used about 1/4 cup in a 3 cups of flour recipe and it digested much of the starch to syrup. I'm trying a single teaspoon now.

                      As far as using it for malted milk. I would say that it is at least twice the strength of malted milk powder. If you want to get real technical, there is about 1/8 of a teaspoon of baking soda in each 1/4 cup of malted milk powder.

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                        paulj Jul 7, 2010 03:39 PM

                        I have some of that malted barley flour from HMart. It smells a whole lot more grassy than the malt powder/sugar that I get from a health food store (or the mix from Horlicks). I've only used it for a Korean rice and barley drink, and haven't dared to try in baking.

                        I suspect the Korean barley has been sprouted, dried at a low temperature and then ground. What we are used in the west is dried at a higher temperature, developing many of the flavor components that we associated with malt. Beer makers use malts that range from a light to a dark roast. As with coffee, darker roasts loose some flavor components, and develop others.

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                        twodognite Sep 20, 2010 11:37 PM

                        I'm a big fan of the Old Fashioned Malted Milk powder from CTL foods. I don't work for them or have any commercial interest in the company. I use their product exclusively and the malted milk powder is what you remember as a kid in a malted. I make a malt ice cream that is SUPERB and everyone I know LOVED. (The recipe is on this website somewhere under CACAO NIB MALT STRACCIATELLA). Go to CTL FOODS in WIsconsin. Horlicks and Ovaltine ??? NO WAY, JOSE! They taste like CHEMICALS and the fact that Horlicks is owned by a pharmaceutical company just doesn't rest well with me when you're looking for FOOD products.

                        I believe they will even send you a sample.

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