654510 Wed Sep 23 15:43:02 -0700 2009 41 12 Boston Area 0 5053383 I know this has been brought up before, but I wanted to resurrect the topic. I went by at the end of August, and saw that the place was still in rough shape. Soon after, I saw the owner post on another site that they would be opening late the following week. Since then, I haven't heard anything. I went in to one of his former bars (The Moan and Dove) this past weekend, and the staff there had no idea. Anyone been by lately, or have any news? Wed Sep 23 15:43:02 -0700 2009 171301 jamie2dope 1 5053653 As far as I can see, nothing. Wed Sep 23 17:33:40 -0700 2009 5053383 26019 SmokeDawg 2 5053682 As all neighboring cyclists know, that dumpster's been out there forever.... Wed Sep 23 17:46:59 -0700 2009 5053653 51986 djd 1 5053764 No news. He sold out of the Moan and Dove? Wed Sep 23 18:18:56 -0700 2009 5053383 25941 enhF94 1 5054129 http://beeradvocate.com/forum/read/2220648 The punchline: "sorry folks, my idea of "next week" is clearly different from my contractor's. i'll keep you posted. we'll be open "soon."" So, there it is. For now, relax, maybe take a trip to CBC or Atwoods for a beer, wait for the doors to open. Whatever the holdup is, us worrying about it won't help. Wed Sep 23 21:02:55 -0700 2009 5053383 21490 celeriac 2 5055029 I'm not really sure that you can police people's worrying...especially since it's known by many that worrying CAN in fact make things outside of your control move faster and better. I think that MIT did a study. Seriously, though--I have to imagine that there are quite a few people excitedly anticipating the openings of LH and Trina's Starlite. That their respective opening dates have slid isn't surprising, per se, nor even reason to fret...but, again, who needs a reason to fret? Thu Sep 24 09:14:14 -0700 2009 5054129 40636 jkv 3 5055412 Actual news-like update: Lord Hobo ran a big ad in the Weekly Dig yesterday (I know, I know), featuring what seems to be their menu, including fried oysters, lobster mac and cheese, duck confit salad, house-made gnocchi, and, um, paella. Sounds like they're feeling ambitious and, in some way, running ads is kind of like saying that you may, someday, open. Thu Sep 24 11:00:07 -0700 2009 5055029 40636 jkv 1 5074960 Walked by there today and there were guys around working on the place. I asked if they knew of an opening date, and one guy told me that they are hoping to do so in about two weeks. Fri Oct 02 12:04:41 -0700 2009 5053383 227190 pickledtink 1 5096609 The dumpster permit on Hampshire expires this week. Either they renew it and we're still in limbo, or it goes away and we know something is going to happen. Mon Oct 12 07:00:50 -0700 2009 5053383 43739 zebedee 1 5097755 Update: they tore down the old B-Side sign to reveal one that says 'Windsor Cafe' and advertises Pickwick Ale (see pics). This must be quite old, since the bar previous to the B-Side was called the Windsor Tap, and I believe Pickwick Ale has been been out of business since the '60s (though still available on draft at Doyle's in JP - probably not the same). Mon Oct 12 14:20:51 -0700 2009 5053383 18100 elbev 2 5097811 Holy moly--keep those signs up and they will have all the hipster cred they could ever need. Mon Oct 12 14:42:21 -0700 2009 5097755 184951 hckybg 1 5098190 Walked by today and peeked in. I am not an expert, but it looks like they have a ways to go :( They did keep the horseshoe bar (or at least it's still there now). Mon Oct 12 17:05:31 -0700 2009 5053383 18481 MaineRed 2 5098417 I also peeked in today while they were working. They claimed to be in the home stretch, and that they thought they'd open in 2 weeks or so. I'm skeptical. Mon Oct 12 18:48:53 -0700 2009 5098190 43739 zebedee 3 5143397 I think this is going to be opening late next week or so, according to a friend who's been working there off and on. Fri Oct 30 11:33:12 -0700 2009 5098417 14253 Joanie 4 5145360 I popped my head in today. They claim another week, as you say. Sat Oct 31 12:41:40 -0700 2009 5143397 43739 zebedee 1 5144225 Their menu is now up, looks good... http://lordhobo.com/ Fri Oct 30 18:02:58 -0700 2009 5053383 123329 ChocolateMilkshake 2 5145367 Yum! And the beer list may almost be worth the wait. Sat Oct 31 12:43:49 -0700 2009 5144225 43739 zebedee 3 5147479 The prospect of Moenschof Schwarzbier on draught is very exciting. Sun Nov 01 14:53:39 -0800 2009 5145367 90719 chickendhansak 2 5145460 "Tasting of deviled eggs"...oh, ferchrissakes, that's a description of a belch, not something you put on a menu. This is sounding too pretentious by half. Sat Oct 31 13:39:12 -0700 2009 5144225 17548 BarmyFotheringayPhipps 3 5146234 You're making a big deal out of something that isn't. After enough beer I would order that - if it sucks then I'll complain Sun Nov 01 01:07:42 -0700 2009 5145460 44359 bbqisgood 4 5146337 Barmy isn't making a big deal, just a comment. That menu description caught me as well. Another minor comment would be that I am not a big fan of the name. It would make me cringe to say..."let's meet at Lord Hobo". Hopefully it will live up to expectations. The B Side's shoes are big ones to fill. Sun Nov 01 04:25:10 -0800 2009 5146234 13687 Gabatta 4 5146722 Well, deflating pretension in menu prose is an old and justly popular sport on Chowhound. The loftiness of "tasting" (as opposed to "sampler" or even "trio") with something as humble as deviled eggs is ripe for that. I think they could take it further, call it "Chef's deviled-egg journey" or "assiette de oeufs farcis du diable" (better French speakers, feel free to correct my grammar). Bad name or no, it's an intriguing menu all around. http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/ Sun Nov 01 08:40:06 -0800 2009 5146234 10143 MC Slim JB 5 5146791 How about "Chicken or the egg? a deviled egg journey 'for my mentors'." Sun Nov 01 09:19:58 -0800 2009 5146722 13687 Gabatta 6 5147066 Ha! Poor Tim Weichmann. He has cooled it with the egregiously over-the-top menu descriptions, but still has "crème brulée foie gras 'for my mentors'” on there (which is misspelled: it's "brûlée"). http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/ Sun Nov 01 11:28:32 -0800 2009 5146791 10143 MC Slim JB 3 5147306 "that's a description of a belch, not something you put on a menu" One of my all-time favorite comments! Sun Nov 01 13:43:44 -0800 2009 5145460 177848 purple bot 2 5146422 If they can handle the skate and prepare it properly, I'm psyched about this place already. The wine list looks good too. Gravy chips anyone? Sun Nov 01 05:42:58 -0800 2009 5144225 10232 yumyum 3 5147644 speaking of chips, i'm looking for frites w/ au poivre gravy, any place around here that has them? (i'm thinking like at Rue 57 in NYC) Sun Nov 01 15:58:57 -0800 2009 5146422 13161 barleywino 4 5147646 if you find them, let me know. Gargoyles does a good poutine at the bar, but I haven't seen au poivre. yum. Sun Nov 01 16:01:07 -0800 2009 5147644 10232 yumyum 5 5147656 thx...i know Locke-Ober does a steak au poivre prepared tableside but i found their au poivre sauce to be too sweet for my tastes (not that I would ever *dream* of differing with Lydia Shire ;) Sun Nov 01 16:06:06 -0800 2009 5147646 13161 barleywino 1 5158537 Heh: http://islordhoboopen.com/ Thu Nov 05 11:21:10 -0800 2009 5053383 17548 BarmyFotheringayPhipps 2 5158607 LOL, I saw this on Universal Hub's Twitter page today. As they said, too bad there wasn't one for CF Donovan's in Hyde Park. Thu Nov 05 11:39:41 -0800 2009 5158537 14771 hiddenboston 2 5161388 Ha, that's hilarious. Fri Nov 06 11:25:42 -0800 2009 5158537 37441 meaganl 1 5158688 I'm hoping they won't fall into the practice of charging 10 bucks for a glass of beer that seems to be the rage these days. Thu Nov 05 11:59:40 -0800 2009 5053383 23030 Dinsdale45 2 5158720 Do you think $10 is an egregious price for a glass of wine as well? Thu Nov 05 12:08:52 -0800 2009 5158688 28574 bobot 3 5158740 Not really a fair comparison. should chicken and beef be the same price on every menu? $10 for most draft beers is a lot. $10 for a decent glass of wine is not. On average, wine is more expensive than beer. Thu Nov 05 12:15:40 -0800 2009 5158720 116470 Gordough 3 5158748 Well, more than I would hope to pay for a casual drink. I understand that this is the way the craft beer people want to shape public thinking, that good beer should be appreciated in the same way as good wine, along with the associated increase in expected cost. I used to make beer, and way way ahead of the curve for the craft brewing rebirth. It does bother me that a pint of beer at Bukowski's (and probably Lord Hobos) will cost double what I paid only 5 years ago. The quality of the beer hasn't changed much, and neither has the cost of making it (unless you want to mention the hop shortage in recent years, I guess). But yeah, 10 bucks a drink does bother me. Thu Nov 05 12:18:45 -0800 2009 5158720 23030 Dinsdale45 4 5158871 I totally agree that a lot of $5 beers are getting sold for $10 because of the boom in popularity. I'm so used to hearing the "$10 for a beer? *monocle pops out, top hat flies into air, steam whistles from ears*" reaction from people who only drink Bud, so I made an assumption. Mea culpa! I do think there are plenty of beers that are well-made and totally worth $10 a glass, though. The "problem" is that once you start playing that game, well, beer starts getting priced like wine! Thu Nov 05 12:56:34 -0800 2009 5158748 28574 bobot 5 5158904 At the end of the day, an item is worth what the market will bear to pay for it. If people are willing to spend $10 for a beer, that glass of beer is worth $10. If enough people don't want to pay that much, they won't sell much beer and will have to reduce prices. Thu Nov 05 13:08:16 -0800 2009 5158871 111910 jgg13 5 5158961 "I do think there are plenty of beers that are well-made and totally worth $10 a glass, though. The "problem" is that once you start playing that game, well, beer starts getting priced like wine!" Exactly. Thu Nov 05 13:28:03 -0800 2009 5158871 23030 Dinsdale45 4 5159065 1) Bukoski's is notoriously overpriced, and they have very short pours. One of the worst values of any craft beer-oriented bar in the area, in my experience. 2) Value really does depend on the beer. If it is twice as strong as a typical beer (many craft beers are), brewed with way more hops (many craft beers are), or fresh hops (many are) brewed with other flavorings like coffee, herbs, etc (many are), aged for months or years (many are), aged in barrels that may have previously contained expensive wine or spirits (many are), imported (many are), in a cask which can go bad (Lord Hobo will have 6), etc, etc, etc... the cost of production really does increase! And all that to say nothing of quality and rarity, which while they do not increase the cost of production may well make any product "worth" more. After all, many precious stones are of no more intrinsic worth than a rock. Thu Nov 05 13:59:08 -0800 2009 5158748 21490 celeriac 3 5158756 Of course it depends on the wine and depends on the beer. $10 can be a swindle for a glass of wine and a bargain for a glass of beer. http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/ Thu Nov 05 12:19:51 -0800 2009 5158720 10143 MC Slim JB 1 5159424 Wow, just looked at the cocktail menu... there appear to be a few spelling errors, liquors being called the wrong thing, and drinks with ingredients that do not belong. Thu Nov 05 16:12:28 -0800 2009 5053383 13193 ponyboy