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Raspberry Velveeta cheese squares - old 1960s(?) recipe from Velveeta box - anyone know it?

Full tummy Sep 21, 2009 06:39 PM

My husband grew up in Nova Scotia, and his grandmother used to make these squares (he claims they're delicious; I am summoning up as much tolerance as I can). It would be oh-so-nice to be able to surprise him with a batch. (Well, nice for him...)

Please, please, has anybody heard of this abomination? Any recipe(s) to share?

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    sedimental Sep 21, 2009 09:42 PM

    Awww....cute!
    Did you check the Kraft(?) website? I threw my 1960's and 1970's Betty Crocker cookbooks away. It met the same fate as my "seal o' meal" and stuffed "kitchen witch"- remember that pantyhosed stuffed "witch" sitting on spoon handle? Anyway, sometimes it is hard to get those retro recipes. I think the internet is your best source. Try googling "retro appetizers" or something to that effect. Good luck!

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    1. re: sedimental
      Full tummy Sep 22, 2009 04:33 PM

      Thanks. I will continue my searches. I think this was supposed to be a dessert, though (hahaha-who knew??).

    2. ms. clicquot Sep 22, 2009 04:50 PM

      Your post intrigued me enough to do some searching (and I agree, it sounds awful but my family is from the Maritimes so I know sometimes they ate odd things like that back in the 60's!). Anyway, I couldn't find anything with raspberries and Velveeta and was wondering if maybe he meant 'cream cheese'. However, then I found a bunch of recipes for Velveeta Fudge - if you google it, you'll see all the links. Could it be something like that?

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      1. re: ms. clicquot
        Full tummy Sep 22, 2009 06:16 PM

        Thanks so much for your enthusiasm!!!

        No, it was definitely not cream cheese. My husband's mother told him her mother got the recipe from the Velveeta box (she could be wrong, however).

        As Hubby recalls:

        "Imagine a thin layer of shortbread-type stuff, then a layer of raspberry jam on top of it, then a crumble on top, sort of like what is on top of apple crumble, but with cheese mixed into it. Something like that." (This is his memory from 30+ years ago, so he concedes it may not be 100% accurate.)

        1. re: Full tummy
          greygarious Sep 22, 2009 06:21 PM

          You can register for free on the Cooks Country website, which has a recipe board where you can post a request for these old lost recipes.

          1. re: greygarious
            Full tummy Sep 22, 2009 06:23 PM

            Hey, thanks. And I just sent the question to Kraft Canada.

            1. re: Full tummy
              ms. clicquot Sep 23, 2009 02:14 PM

              Hopefully they'll be able to help you out. I did find a couple of recipes which sound similar to what you're looking for but no mention of raspberries:

              http://www.familyoven.com/offsite?r_id=194423&u=http://www.recipezaar.com/138582

              http://www.recipelink.com/mf/0/76713

              The apple and cheese combo sort of makes sense - my mom loves a slice of cheddar on her apple pie. I have to admit that I don't quite get it but each to their own. Good luck with your quest!

              1. re: ms. clicquot
                The Dairy Queen Sep 23, 2009 02:45 PM

                Here's an apple velveta cheese crumble recipe. It calls for Ritz crackers as the base... http://www.easy-applepie.com/apple-de...

                Closer, perhaps?

                ~TDQ

                1. re: The Dairy Queen
                  Full tummy Sep 23, 2009 03:04 PM

                  Oh, wow. That looks promising. I will ask Hubby when he gets home.

              2. re: Full tummy
                Full tummy Oct 15, 2009 10:24 AM

                By the way, I never heard back from Kraft.

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                  steinfam Nov 26, 2009 01:05 PM

                  WOW.....I have been looking for this recipe for 20 years. I have even tried making it from scratch myself but never turned out the same. My Mom made it and they were a traditional favorite at Christmas with all us kids. My Mom is from New Germany Nova Scotia. We did have an old Kraft cookbook that I remember....long gone now. And it may also have been on the box. I have asked Kraft many times hoping their kitchen staff would be interested in making the recipe. Your husband is right very delicious. Like a matrimonial square. Bottom cake, raspberry jam filling and Crumbly tip. I remember cutting the velveeta cheese into the flour mixture till crumbly. Patting a layer in the pan, spreading jam and crumbly top. When baked the cheese would melt and brown. I'll let you know if I find the recipe and if you have found it please let me know. Thanks I've copied the recipe and will try it this weekend. I can't believe I found this...been looking a long time........

                  1. re: steinfam
                    Full tummy Nov 26, 2009 07:13 PM

                    How exciting!!

                    Since I posted our last recipe, we have made some modifications. Here is the recipe we have settled on so far. (Hubby's uncle came for a visit around the time we were working on it, and we served it to him; he claimed they were just as he remembered and took the rest of the batch home with him!!)

                    Raspberry cheese squares

                    2 cups flour
                    1/2 tsp baking powder
                    3 tbsp brown sugar
                    1/4 tsp salt
                    6 oz chilled unsalted butter, cut into cubes
                    extra butter for greasing the pan
                    3.5 oz. Velveeta, cut into small cubes
                    3.5 oz. Cheese Whiz
                    7 tbsp raspberry jam

                    Preheat oven to 350 F.
                    Butter a 9" x 9" baking pan.
                    Sift together dry ingredients (flour, baking powder, brown sugar, salt)
                    Cut Velveeta, Cheese Whiz, and butter cubes into flour mixture with a pastry blender, until texture is like a mix of coarse sand and fine gravel (texture may be uneven).
                    Press half the mixture firmly into the bottom of the baking pan.
                    Heat jam for one minute in the microwave, and spread it evenly over the top with an offset spatula. (Dip offset spatula in warm water if jam is too sticky.)
                    Sprinkle remaining mixture evenly on top.
                    Bake for about 25 minutes, till top is somewhat browned.
                    Let cool and cut into squares.

                    Let us know which recipe you try and how it went. We use half Cheese Whiz because we're convinced (as others are) that today's Velveeta has a milder flavour than the Velveeta of years gone by.

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                      steinfam Dec 1, 2009 07:49 AM

                      Hi
                      I'm glad I checked for your response and found this new recipe. I'm trying it today. Now as I recall the recipe was on the Package. My Mom kept as a bookmark for her cookbook. Date squares and Cheese Dreams. They were her regular squares for our family gathering. Off to bake........Thanks

                      1. re: steinfam
                        Full tummy Dec 1, 2009 08:56 AM

                        Post back how it goes... you might find you need to make some modifications to it, too. Let me know.

        2. The Dairy Queen Sep 23, 2009 02:29 PM

          Emailing Kraft was a great idea! And I agree, lots of people combine a slice of melted cheddar cheese with apple pie, so, maybe there's something to this. Please do let us know if you end up finding the recipe and how it turns out!

          EDIT: Does the local Nova Scotia newspaper have a lost recipe person you can contact? Our newspaper has a columnist whose job it is to answer lost recipe questions. She has access to all kinds of old cookbooks and newspaper archives and such that we ordinary mere mortals do not have access to.

          ~TDQ

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          1. re: The Dairy Queen
            greygarious Sep 23, 2009 02:36 PM

            Also a possibility, Uncle Phaedrus: http://hungrybrowser.com/

            I don't know if this is the same person as the Chowhounder whose handle is Phaedrus.

          2. Full tummy Sep 23, 2009 03:05 PM

            Thanks so much, Everyone, for your enthusiasm!!! Will let you know if I hear anything from Kraft (nothing yet), or if anything else pans out.

            Lots of great ideas here.

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              NovaScotia1962 Oct 15, 2009 09:31 AM

              I have been searching for this recipe for over 20 years! I was very excited to see your post when I, yet once again, attempted to look for this recipe. I too am from NS and as a young girl my mother used to make these for me. Your husband is absolutely bang on in his description. They were absolutely delicious and such a warm memory for me. I will continue onward with my search and let you know if I ever find the recipe.

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              1. re: NovaScotia1962
                Full tummy Oct 15, 2009 10:23 AM

                Well, check out the recipe below and we can compare results!!!!

              2. ms. clicquot Oct 15, 2009 10:02 AM

                I collect cookbooks, including local ones put out by church groups, etc. around North America. I remembered that I have an old Maritime one that has tons of recipes for squares (we do love our squares!). I don't know if this is at all similar to what you're looking for but I found this:

                Cheese Dreams

                2 cups flour
                1/2 tsp salt
                1 Tbsp brown sugar
                1/4 lb. grated cheese (it does not specify what type of cheese)
                1/4 tsp baking powder
                Jam (again, it doesn't say what kind or how much)
                1/4 lb. chilled butter

                In a bowl, sift together flour, baking powder and salt. Stir in sugar and cheese. Cut butter into mixture.

                Spread half of the mixture into a baking pan (no size indicated) and cover with a layer of jam. Top with remaining mixture.

                Bake for 30 minutes at 350 degrees Fahrenheit. Cool and cut into squares to serve.

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                1. re: ms. clicquot
                  Full tummy Oct 15, 2009 10:23 AM

                  Oh my goodness!!!! I wonder if I should tell my husband first, or just make them. Thank you so much!!! I am leaning towards "just make them". It is very possible they could have taken the Velveeta recipe and made it generic. Will let you know!!!!! (Personally, I am skeptical as to how such a square could really be as delicious as he describes and not so looking forward to the result, but I have a thing against Velveeta and may have to get over this!!!)

                  1. re: Full tummy
                    greygarious Oct 15, 2009 10:40 AM

                    Before you start, check this thread: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/643234
                    Today's Velveeta is not the same as would have been around when your husband ate these bars. You may want to kick up the flavor by adding a little orange cheese powder (sometimes available in markets; otherwise get some boxed mac&cheese mix and use that powder), or substitute Cheez Whiz. Please report back on what you and he think - this is an intriguing recipe!

                    1. re: greygarious
                      Full tummy Oct 15, 2009 11:11 AM

                      Will definitely consider that if the first go yields unsatisfactory results.

                      Btw, ms. clicquot, I caved and told hubby. He thinks the recipe may be what he's been looking for, and his errand on the way home from work is to purchase Velveeta. We'll be baking tonight and will let everyone know how it turns out!!!

                      1. re: Full tummy
                        The Dairy Queen Oct 15, 2009 11:16 AM

                        WOOHOO! I can't wait to read if they turn out to be what you are looking for and if they are any good. Please report back! Good luck!

                        ~TDQ

                        1. re: The Dairy Queen
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                          Janet from Richmond Oct 15, 2009 11:17 AM

                          This will be the first thread I check out in the am! I am anxious to hear how they come out.

                        2. re: Full tummy
                          ms. clicquot Oct 15, 2009 11:43 AM

                          I'm so pleased that it looks like what you're looking for! I hope it turns out ok - I would assume that the original recipe used block cheddar cheese because that was pretty much the only kind of cheese we knew in that part of the world in the 60's and 70's. I've never used Velveeta - can you grate it like regular cheese? Good luck! I can't wait to hear how it turns out.

                          1. re: ms. clicquot
                            greygarious Oct 15, 2009 11:53 AM

                            Velveeta is way too soft to grate but probably would work if you froze it first.
                            Looking at the recipe, I think it would be appropriate to use block American cheese (NOT cheese "product"), colby, or mild cheddar. The concept reminds me of apple pie with a cheddar crust. Apple butter would be a good alternate filling.

                            1. re: ms. clicquot
                              Full tummy Oct 15, 2009 08:04 PM

                              So, we made them tonight... Hubby is thrilled!!!! It needs a little tweaking, as the recipe didn't have enough cheese flavour. No surprise there. Eating Velveeta is like chewing on a diluted processed cheese slice. It also was too floury.

                              We will work on the recipe for the next few days, and I will post the version that meets his grandmother's standards.

                              Alas, I am trying not to comment about her (or his) standards--these squares aren't so dreamy. Sorry to say, but growing up on linzertorte, well, these are a whole different thing. (Hubby is reading this and says these squares blow linzertorte out of the water, hehehehe.) Might have to pull out the linzertorte recipe this weekend, so I can have something to enjoy, too.

                              So, thank you so, so, so, so much!!! Will post again.

                              By the way, instead of grating the Velveeta, we just cut it in with the butter. Worked very well.

                              1. re: Full tummy
                                The Dairy Queen Oct 16, 2009 04:15 AM

                                This is a wonderful success story. I'm so glad that Ms. Clicquot was able to help you out. Too bad the Cheese Dreams are less than dreamy, but, I suppose we all have those things we crave from our childhood.

                                ~TDQ

                                1. re: Full tummy
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                                  Janet from Richmond Oct 16, 2009 05:06 AM

                                  Good job Full tummy. :-) And as TDQ pointed out my guess is many of the things we fondly remember from childhood aren't quite as good as we remember.

                                  1. re: Janet from Richmond
                                    Full tummy Oct 16, 2009 05:34 AM

                                    How true!!! In this case, I also feel that they are something he enjoys because he ate them as a child (I can't see myself getting into them). They are not tempting to me at all, which is good: I don't need a sweet calling my name.

                                    He really is tremendously happy and grateful and says the squares are pretty much as he remembers them!!!

                                  2. re: Full tummy
                                    ms. clicquot Oct 16, 2009 05:50 AM

                                    I'm so happy that the recipe was at least in the right direction of what you were looking for. I'm sure you'll be able to tweak it to get it just right for him. It's funny, I was thinking that maybe they should be called 'Cheese Nightmares' instead of Dreams but as I learned on another thread, Don't Yuck Someone's Yum! http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/657889

                                    1. re: ms. clicquot
                                      Full tummy Oct 16, 2009 06:24 AM

                                      That is hilarious!!! I need to tease him some, though!!!

                          2. re: ms. clicquot
                            Full tummy Oct 15, 2009 10:25 AM

                            By the way, can you share the name of the cookbook, and date of publication, publisher, etc.?

                            1. re: Full tummy
                              ms. clicquot Oct 15, 2009 11:48 AM

                              The cookbook is an obscure one, to say the least. It's called 'The Grand Manan Cook Book' and was compiled by the Grand Manan Hospital Auxiliary and re-printed by the Grand Manan Historical Society in 2000. Grand Manan is a small island off the coast of N.B./Maine and my parents vacation there. I picked it up when we were visiting them a couple of years ago. The instructions and ingredient lists are very vague and casual, as would be expected from home cooks trying to recall their recipes from memory.

                              1. re: ms. clicquot
                                Full tummy Oct 15, 2009 12:13 PM

                                Oh, thanks. Hubby and I went camping in Grand Manan five or so years ago. It is a wonderful place where I ended up nose to nose with a humpback whale on a whalewatching adventure and visited the island where puffins breed. We loved it and would go back in a second, except that it's quite a trip from our home here in Toronto.

                                1. re: Full tummy
                                  ms. clicquot Oct 15, 2009 03:02 PM

                                  What a small world - I was last there about 5 years ago as well! I agree that it's too far from Toronto to visit regularly. It's a bit off the usual tourist path. It's neat to see some of the history of the cookbook (below). It's an interesting book, full of classic old recipes like ones my grandmother used to make. I might try putting a modern twist on a few of them.

                                  1. re: ms. clicquot
                                    Full tummy Oct 15, 2009 03:39 PM

                                    I recall the excellent lobster dinners we had at the place just off the road with plastic checked tablecloths and a videostore, all in one. Plus, there was a pretty good bakery, with half-decent croissants. We camped at "Hole in the Wall", and I enjoyed learning about dulsing from one of the dulsers who camped there every summer. Great times!!!

                                2. re: ms. clicquot
                                  Full tummy Oct 15, 2009 12:15 PM

                                  According to this site, the first Grand Manan Cook Book was published to raise money for the island's first hospital back in the 1940s.

                                  http://rodneymackay.com/writing/The%2...

                                  1. re: Full tummy
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                                    BernadetteNS Apr 20, 2010 01:20 PM

                                    hey there. Just came across your request for the Cheese Dreams recipe
                                    I hope you will see this. Im from Nova Scotia too and I recall these fondly.
                                    Here is are the ingredients from my Mum's recipe

                                    1/4 lb. velveeta
                                    1 1/2 c. flour *(you mentioned yours were too floury with 2 c. this maybe why)
                                    4 tbsp. brown sugar
                                    1/4 lb. of shortening
                                    1/4 tsp baking powder
                                    dash of salt
                                    raspberry jam

                                    And they were quite delicious. I was just about to make some and wanted to check what was available as a recipe on the internet. And lo and behold there was your query!! Maybe you have to be a Nova Scotian to have the taste for them as you mentioned you didn't find them so dreamy! lol
                                    However, as a whole I think we down here are quite the cheese eaters, even in our desserts lol.

                                    1. re: BernadetteNS
                                      Full tummy Apr 20, 2010 03:49 PM

                                      Hi!

                                      So, just a couple of weeks ago, my husband's mom dug out the old recipe. (After all this hard work, folks!!! Thanks for the help.)

                                      Here it is.

                                      Raspberry Cheese Squares

                                      Sift the following dry ingredients:
                                      11/2 cups flour
                                      1 tbsp sugar
                                      1 tsp baking soda
                                      salt

                                      Cut in 1/2 cup butter and 1/4 pound Velveeta.

                                      Then follow the procedure as posted.

                                      Because Velveeta tastes different now (must be a different formula), we still have to hit upon the right combination of Cheez Whiz/ Velveeta/ other spreadable cheddar-type cheeses to perfect the taste. Not sure this will happen...

                                      Your recipe seems very similar, except for the use of shortening.

                                      To be honest, I do enjoy them. Am craving some now... 3 months pregnant.

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                              HillJ Oct 15, 2009 10:11 AM

                              Actually, this recipe reminds me of the very popular trend of grilled cheese & jams sandwiches I see all over the Net without the bread component in the prep. I happen to love the grilled sandwich version so perhaps this one is yummy chow!

                              1. Full tummy Oct 17, 2009 12:39 PM

                                Thanks so much for all the help!!! Hubby has made the recipe three times and has arrived at a version that is pretty much like what his grandmother used to make. I even think it is better than expected (though not as good as linzertorte, heheheh). Here's the new recipe:

                                Modified Cheese Dreams

                                2 cups flour
                                1/2 tsp salt
                                1/4 tsp baking powder
                                3 Tbsp brown sugar
                                7 ounces Velveeta, cubed
                                3/8 lb. chilled butter, cubed

                                1/2 cup Raspberry jam, thinned with a little water, if necessary

                                In a bowl, sift together flour, baking powder and salt. Stir in sugar. Cut butter and Velveeta into mixture, till it resembles coarse crumbs.

                                Spread half of the mixture into a 9" square baking pan; press it into the pan. Spread the jam on top (use an offset spatula dipped in warm water).

                                Top with remaining mixture.

                                Bake for 30 minutes at 350 degrees Fahrenheit. Cool and cut into squares to serve.

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                                  pepsi2u Oct 22, 2009 03:26 PM

                                  well....... I'm glad your husband remebers some of his NS roots and Gramma's goodness. I have made this recipe two ways.. with cheese whiz and with Velveeta cheese. Velveeta cheese makes the nicer square but they don't last long so cheese whiz works fine too.

                                  1/2 C hard margarine or cold butter
                                  3 Tablespoons cheese whiz or velveeta cheese
                                  1 Tablespoons brown sugar
                                  1 1/2 cups flour
                                  1/2 teaspoon baking powder

                                  Combine all ingrediants in a bowl and cut in with a pastry blender until the texture of dry oatmeal. Press half of crumbs into 8 X 8 inch pan. Warm some raspberry jam in microwave ( makes it spread easier) and spread a layer on crust. Toss remaining crumbs on top and pat down gently. Bake in 350 oven for 30 minutes and you will be hooked! they taste great........ but even better by day 2. If they last that long!

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                                  1. re: pepsi2u
                                    Full tummy Oct 23, 2009 11:58 AM

                                    Wow! Will have to give that one a try, too. Where did you get it from?

                                    1. re: Full tummy
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                                      pepsi2u Nov 3, 2009 06:20 AM

                                      i live in Nova scotia and these a re a common treat. Cheap and easy to make. I live in the Pictou county region........ your husband will know where that is. Did you try them??

                                      1. re: pepsi2u
                                        Full tummy Nov 3, 2009 02:28 PM

                                        Yes, we made it today. He was very happy with it! My husband tells me to tell you that his grandmother was from New Glasgow.

                                        Thanks for the recipe. We now have a number of options, all of which are quite good, even for me!!!

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                                          pepsi2u May 9, 2010 06:21 AM

                                          LOL Exactly where I am from..... good coal miners and Scots in the area. Also a large polish and dutch population tho. :) Nice to meet you. :)

                                  2. maria lorraine Oct 23, 2009 12:05 AM

                                    Did you ever hear back from Kraft? If you can do a little digging, ask to contact the historian on staff or the reference librarian. It's good if you have a name first. I did that with a question for Hershey -- none of the regular customer service reps had the answer, but the librarian put her finger on it quickly. Just a thought.

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                                    1. re: maria lorraine
                                      Full tummy Oct 23, 2009 11:59 AM

                                      I sent an e-mail to Kraft and never heard back from them. But, that's a good suggestion. As things stand, though, my husband is pretty happy with the recipe we came up with.

                                      Thanks!!!!

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                                      punker Oct 27, 2009 11:22 AM

                                      have you checked out a raspberry cheese bar that uses cheddar cheese? I think this may
                                      be the missing recipe it's like a raspberry cookie bar with cheddar cheese in the base and topping. Give this a try I learned it as a girl scout in 1958. punker

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                                      1. re: punker
                                        Full tummy Oct 27, 2009 02:14 PM

                                        It may be the same recipe, but with cheddar cheese, instead of Velveeta. Do you have the actual recipe?

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                                        home cooking Jul 18, 2010 08:16 AM

                                        Hi,
                                        I've just read your post. DId you find the recipe? If not , I have it. My mother grew up in Dartmouth, Nova Scotia and we ate this recipe all the time. I love it and so do my friends. Let me know. I also have a collection of recipes. Perhaps your husband has some more to share. Thanks.

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                                        1. re: home cooking
                                          Full tummy Jul 18, 2010 01:26 PM

                                          I posted what we finally found on April 20, just above, but I sure would be interested to see your family recipe!!! Thanks!

                                        2. lilmsmuffin May 13, 2011 10:11 PM

                                          VELVEETA CHEESE SQUARES

                                          1/4lb butter
                                          1/4lb velveeta cheese
                                          1/4 cup brown sugar
                                          1 3/4 cups flour
                                          1 1/2 tsp baking powder
                                          1/2 tsp salt

                                          jam/jelly (crabapple, apple, or raspberry)

                                          Combine ingrediens. Pat 3/4 of mixture in an 8 inch square pan. Cover with jam or jelly. Crumble rest of mixture on top. Bake 25 minutes at 300. MAkes 16 to 24 squares.

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                                            pepsi2u May 14, 2011 02:42 PM

                                            On a baking binge :) and steroids. I guess one explains the other. Will try these tonight. :)

                                            1. re: lilmsmuffin
                                              Full tummy May 14, 2011 07:57 PM

                                              Looks very similar in terms of proportions. Thanks!! Hope they turned out well for you. Where, may I ask, did you come across the recipe?

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                                                julesrules May 15, 2011 04:54 AM

                                                If I ever try this I would probably use MacLaren's cold pack sharp cheddar product (a procesed product in a tub, but much more flavourful than cheese wiz). It is used in cheese stars for example. Not sure if there is a product like that in the US

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                                                  pepsi2u May 16, 2011 03:50 PM

                                                  I tried my recipe today with McLaren's sharp. :)
                                                  I think I found it!
                                                  Tastes like the old recipe! Cheeze Whiz is just not made like it used to be. nor taste like it used to. I switched the cheeze whiz for equal amounts of the sharp cheddar.
                                                  Happy happy

                                                  1. re: pepsi2u
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                                                    julesrules May 17, 2011 08:07 AM

                                                    Excellent :) I love old cheddar with jam, and I think cheeze whiz is pretty awful. So I figured the McLaren's would work!
                                                    I've also always wanted to try these:
                                                    http://www.foodnetwork.ca/recipes/Che...

                                                    But for now, I put my cheddar and jam on triscuit thins!

                                                    1. re: julesrules
                                                      buttertart May 17, 2011 12:13 PM

                                                      I really have to try these - one of my favorite things is old cheese with fruitcake.

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                                                        pepsi2u May 17, 2011 01:13 PM

                                                        I can't believe I had leftover squares to actually say this but they ARE better the second day .LOL I am sooooooo pleased with the results of this recipe fix. Thank you thank you and thank you again.

                                                        1. re: pepsi2u
                                                          Full tummy May 17, 2011 01:41 PM

                                                          You are so right! We noticed this as well. Almost makes you want to bake them a day ahead, but who can wait???

                                                2. re: lilmsmuffin
                                                  greygarious Jun 26, 2011 09:01 PM

                                                  @lilmsmuffin - In deciding what version of this recipe to use, I noticed that yours calls for a LOT more baking powder than everyone else's. Did you mean it, or is it supposed to be a half teaspoon?

                                                3. greygarious Jun 5, 2011 05:04 PM

                                                  I bought a small tub of Wispride cold pack sharp cheddar product with the intention of trying the raspberry cheese square recipe but when I sampled it, was disappointed that it had a weaker cheese flavor (also a paler color) than it once did. i used to buy it for cheese and cracker snacking but haven't ihad it in probably 20 yrs. Even more alarming was a snippet on the lid that there will be an even easier to spread new recipe coming soon. I take this to mean more shortening, less cheese. I have never seen the McLaren's brand here, but Wispride is among 3 or 4 labels in (suburban Boston) area supermarkets. So I haven't baked with it yet. If I can't find a cheesier one I'll grate in some cheddar.

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                                                  1. re: greygarious
                                                    Full tummy Jun 5, 2011 08:37 PM

                                                    I found a tub of cheddar very like the McLaren version at Trader Joe's. Don't know if you have TJ in Boston, tho...

                                                    1. re: Full tummy
                                                      greygarious Jun 5, 2011 09:47 PM

                                                      I shop there all the time. Is it TJ's own brand?

                                                      1. re: greygarious
                                                        Full tummy Jun 5, 2011 10:54 PM

                                                        I am not sure, but it's refrigerated in a colourless plastic tub. Let me know if you find it.

                                                        1. re: Full tummy
                                                          greygarious Jun 26, 2011 09:30 PM

                                                          I finally made these today, with the TJ's cheese spread to which I added a few tbsps of cheddar powder. They are pretty good, but I ate one warm and perhaps I will like them better when they are chilled. If I ever make them again I will use apple butter or apple jelly and minced apples. I like cheddar with apple pie, so it would be close.

                                                          1. re: greygarious
                                                            buttertart Jun 27, 2011 10:58 AM

                                                            Apple does sound nice. Apple pie without some cheese is like a kiss without a squeeze!

                                                            1. re: greygarious
                                                              Full tummy Jun 28, 2011 12:43 AM

                                                              They are even better the next day!

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                                                        pepsi2u Jun 6, 2011 02:11 AM

                                                        Kraft dinner cheese powder............. i had some leftover and added it to cheese whiz........ more as an experiment for this recipe then anything........ worked nice but I am going to stick with the McLaren's cheese for now. Works great and I am pleased.

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                                                          greygarious Jun 6, 2011 10:29 AM

                                                          Yes, I buy pound bags of that "orange gold" online from Barry Farm. But it would be nice to have a cold-pack cheese, or a velveeta-type (for the sake of smooth cheese sauce) that does not require hit-or-miss doctoring up, wouldn't it?

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                                                            greygarious Jul 16, 2011 02:23 PM

                                                            Not looking for it there, the other day I happened to notice Hans' cold-packed cheese food in 8oz tubs in the gourmet cheese island at Roche Bros., a Boston area chain. I bought it and though I have not baked the squares yet (probably won't for a couple of months), I did taste some with crackers. Hoorah! It is what Wispride, Kaukauna, and similar brands USED to taste like. I suspect it is similar to McLaren's, which I do not see here. Hans' is from Chicago.

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                                                              pepsi2u Jul 16, 2011 03:07 PM

                                                              Yay! Let me know how it all works out. I keep buying the McLaren's to make the squares but my husband keeps eating it with crackers before I get it made! I am so happy to finally have this recipe back in my "old stand-bys" list.:)

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