653704 Sun Sep 20 17:00:46 -0700 2009 48 33 Food Media and News 0 5044569 Good news for foodies: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,552220,00.html?loomia_ow=t0:s0:a4:g4:r4:c0.000000:b0:z5 Sun Sep 20 17:00:46 -0700 2009 24648 Sean 1 5044601 I don't get it. We only eat 3 times a day. Sun Sep 20 17:15:36 -0700 2009 5044569 57170 Veggo 2 5044673 Amateur. Sun Sep 20 17:48:50 -0700 2009 5044601 58743 alanbarnes 1 5044663 Let the Double Entendres begin...... Sun Sep 20 17:42:07 -0700 2009 5044569 23712 DiveFan 1 5044676 Interesting. I didn't read the whole article, but was struck by this observation: "Anthropologists have noted that many primitive societies will tolerate a married woman sleeping around, but will ostracise her if she feeds any man other than her husband. In the ancestral struggle for survival, it seems, sustenance was more important than sex." Good to know. Sun Sep 20 17:49:44 -0700 2009 5044569 255446 Gigi007 2 5044688 "sustenance was more important than sex (for women)" : how is that only ancestral? Isn't that the essence of modern marriage? Just curious... Sun Sep 20 17:57:08 -0700 2009 5044676 57170 Veggo 3 5044700 I see what you mean, Veggo. I quoted from the article without the insertion of the parentheses "(for women)" in the 1st sentence, which I assume you added. One could argue that now as in ancient times, food (for both men and women) trumps sex, in the hierarchy of needs. So, no, not a novel idea I actually meant to say that I was struck by the first sentence I quoted--the idea that sleeping around by married women was tolerated, but feeding other men outside the marriage wasn't. Sun Sep 20 18:03:37 -0700 2009 5044688 255446 Gigi007 4 5044755 I don't invovle myself with married women, but it's refreshing when one pays a resto bill. So times *have* changed. Sun Sep 20 18:32:53 -0700 2009 5044700 57170 Veggo 5 5044772 Thankfully, yes times have changed. On the subject of women picking up the check, it's a topic I like discussing. I don't consider myself a feminist by any means, but have no problem and in fact reallly like paying every once in a while. At the same time, I know a lot of women who don't and even worse, women who actually invite men out and then expect them to pay all the time..I realize it's a cultural behavior, but still it kind of irks me because I don't want men out there to think all women are looking to take advantage. Sun Sep 20 18:42:47 -0700 2009 5044755 255446 Gigi007 6 5044789 It runs right around 92%. Sun Sep 20 18:49:10 -0700 2009 5044772 57170 Veggo 7 5044791 Hahaha. good to know. :) Sun Sep 20 18:50:20 -0700 2009 5044789 255446 Gigi007 6 5046243 It is even worse than that. Just basing it off of women I know (not 'women I've dated'), there's absolutely no way for a guy to win here. I know women who just expect the guy to pay. I know women who will drop a guy if he insists on paying (because he's "sexist"). I know women who will offer to pay/split/etc, but drop a guy if he accepts (he's "cheap"). I know women who will offer to pay/split/etc and mean it. etc etc. I've yet to identify a tactic as a male that would be foolproof in terms of potentially leading to trouble. Mon Sep 21 10:40:30 -0700 2009 5044772 111910 jgg13 7 5046371 You will figure it out about the time you no longer want or need them. Mon Sep 21 11:16:00 -0700 2009 5046243 57170 Veggo 8 5046443 Heh. I long ago decided what I wanted, and if someone didn't care for that, that's their problem. And the folks who are using it as some sort of trick/test ("i'll offer to pay, he better not accept") are people I don't really want to be be with anyways, so good riddance. I have a few female friends who are like that, and it just makes me shake my head. Mon Sep 21 11:40:26 -0700 2009 5046371 111910 jgg13 5 5046497 If I'm the one making the invitation, I pay. If he invites me, he should pay. I've certainly surprised a few fellows when I insist on paying. I just smile and say, "If you'd like to take me to dinner, you have to issue the invitation!" Gray area comes in when it's a casual kind of invitation; i.e., "Let's meet for a bite/drink after work." Mon Sep 21 11:52:56 -0700 2009 5044755 88544 Ima Wurdibitsch 6 5046540 I'm with you, Ima (no pun intended!), but you'd be surprised how many women out there have no qualms about inviting a man out fully expecting that he'll pay. As a woman, I don't like that behavior although as I posted earlier I've come to learn that with some women (and men who are OK with this), it's cultural. Mon Sep 21 12:03:51 -0700 2009 5046497 255446 Gigi007 1 5044738 I was struck by the following quote, however, "If you feed a chimp cooked food for tens of thousands of years, I find it hard to believe that it would end up looking like the same animal." I seriously don't think that cooking the food would have that impact as much as the "tens of thousands of years" that have elapsed would have..... Sun Sep 20 18:23:49 -0700 2009 5044569 75332 Gio 2 5044763 Gravity is not our friend...and they didn't have disposable razors. Sun Sep 20 18:37:17 -0700 2009 5044738 57170 Veggo 3 5044795 I rest my case..... Sun Sep 20 18:51:39 -0700 2009 5044763 75332 Gio 1 5045032 Dang, I saw Sax, not Sex....living with a professional sax player....I get great sax on a regular basis. And boy...can he eat. Sun Sep 20 20:53:38 -0700 2009 5044569 237929 tracylee 2 5045047 Saxophones...drunk guys....brass urinals....oh, never mind. Sun Sep 20 21:02:38 -0700 2009 5045032 57170 Veggo 3 5045286 LOL I need more coffee before I read a thread like this. Mon Sep 21 03:14:30 -0700 2009 5045047 253154 Fritter 1 5045288 While I will definitely agree that if someone feeds me, I kind of "lock on" that they're a good friend. "the way to a mans heart is through his stomach" is very true in this case. And also, it kind of goes both ways, in that if I genuinely like someone, I tend to offer them food, and take more care over cooking that I would for myself. However in "relationships" referring to a life partner, I would tend to disagree entirely (with regards to primary motivation). In western society, given the current abundance of available food, less emphasis would be given to providing, and more to fitness, intelligence and wealth (possibly in that order) Mon Sep 21 03:26:00 -0700 2009 5044569 180623 Soop 2 5045387 Ah, the reverse. I think men cooking garners approval from many women when they see that you have a feminine side and can provide for them in more ways than money and muscle. Perhaps also an indication that they will not be saddled with all the traditional duties. Let's not forget that it's harder to enjoy sex when you're hungry. Mon Sep 21 05:43:32 -0700 2009 5045288 137946 Scargod 3 5045738 re: your last comment....I dunno...when you look at the # of births following the lean, hungry cold months of fall and winter...I'd hazard a guess that sex is one fine distraction from growling bellies. Totally agree with your first comment though. I find it very attractive when a man both has an interest in cooking, particularly FOR me. Equally, an interest in food and trying new things is also a brownie point, even if they can't cook. However, in the absence of sexual chemistry, these wouldn't sustain much more than a friendship, for me. Mon Sep 21 08:12:18 -0700 2009 5045387 153184 im_nomad 4 5045949 <-- man who loves to cook Mon Sep 21 09:12:36 -0700 2009 5045738 135229 thew 4 5047568 It also helps after the train just came through and woke you up. I like experimenting in the kitchen. That's why I have one counter top at twenty-nine inches. I need food chemistry, sexual chemistry and alchemy. A full moon is good, too. Mon Sep 21 17:52:56 -0700 2009 5045738 137946 Scargod 1 5045451 Golly gee, I thought it was both food and sex as the basis of a long lasting relationship! Who wrote gullible on the ceiling above my head? Where do the flowers that continually buy fit in? Scar, doesn't good sex increase one's appetite? And smoking too? My wife asked if I ever smoked after sex and I replied that I've never looked. Mon Sep 21 06:14:41 -0700 2009 5044569 93538 Passadumkeg 2 5045695 An exchange between a well-fed gentleman and a woman in a grocery store: "Sir, if that stomach were on a woman, I'd swear she was pregnant." "Ma'm, it was, and she is." Mon Sep 21 07:56:17 -0700 2009 5045451 57170 Veggo 3 5045742 lol, good one. Mon Sep 21 08:12:58 -0700 2009 5045695 153184 im_nomad 1 5045710 food and sex are separate things? Mon Sep 21 08:01:11 -0700 2009 5044569 135229 thew 2 5045726 The lines do get blurry when for either, one must make a reservation a month in advance. Mon Sep 21 08:07:33 -0700 2009 5045710 57170 Veggo 2 5045837 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLKhJnKrf9M Mon Sep 21 08:43:53 -0700 2009 5045710 58743 alanbarnes 3 5047619 I'll see that clip and raise you this one--even better! I had forgotten about this episode. PERFECT! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHchl4AxsE0&NR=1 Mon Sep 21 18:16:14 -0700 2009 5045837 249664 kattyeyes 1 5045971 lawl, "The couple that eats together, sleeps together". I just read that Fox article, and it doesn't really offer any basis for any effect on relationships. Mon Sep 21 09:19:05 -0700 2009 5044569 180623 Soop 2 5046179 if that were true i wouldn;t be a single parent right now Mon Sep 21 10:20:22 -0700 2009 5045971 135229 thew 1 5047638 Since I substituted food instead of sex, I can't even get into my own pants. Mon Sep 21 18:23:47 -0700 2009 5044569 32941 Rmis32 2 5047650 LOLOL! Clever!!! Mon Sep 21 18:27:30 -0700 2009 5047638 249664 kattyeyes 1 5048669 "Pastrami is the most sensual of all the cured meats." George Costanza Tue Sep 22 07:37:44 -0700 2009 5044569 243273 pacheeseguy 2 5050092 "If words were cherry stems, my tongue would be in Sherilyn Fenn's mouth." Duckman Tue Sep 22 14:21:30 -0700 2009 5048669 23712 DiveFan 3 5050130 I don't think this is "deep" or even makes any sense. Not sure what it has to do with the subject. At least pastrami is sexy meat and a pastrami sandwich while having sex sounds good to me. Sharing a pastarmi sandwich with Sherilyn Fenn would be orgasmic without the sex. Tue Sep 22 14:36:02 -0700 2009 5050092 137946 Scargod 4 5050220 now humor needs to be deep and/or make sense? Tue Sep 22 15:02:14 -0700 2009 5050130 135229 thew 5 5050237 Humor is not funny if it doesn't make sense to the majority. You don't put a cherry stem in your mouth except when showing off (that you can tie it in a knot). Tue Sep 22 15:07:00 -0700 2009 5050220 137946 Scargod 6 5050245 it does imply a talented tongue. of course, i pity the woman who has to work her skills on the equivalent of a cherry stem '-) Tue Sep 22 15:10:51 -0700 2009 5050237 116513 linguafood 7 5050456 Well said, sista! ;) Whoever that poor woman is, she should have held out for a pastrami sandwich at Katz's. Yes! Yes! Yes! <<I'll have what she's having>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-bsf2x-aeE Tue Sep 22 16:29:22 -0700 2009 5050245 249664 kattyeyes 3 5050468 Nothing deep - just wanted to start a Jason Alexander subthread. :-) Relevant Duckman quotes are hard to come by, his humor tends more toward the unsubtle salami metaphors... Tue Sep 22 16:36:46 -0700 2009 5050092 23712 DiveFan 4 5051671 George: So eh, what do you say? Tara: I guess we could use some food in our lovemaking. George: Ok, we got your...got your strawberries, your chocolate sauce, your pastrami on rye with mustard, your honey... Tara: Wait wait wait, pastrami on rye with mustard? George: Oh yeah yeah, don't you know they used pastrami in that movie 9½ weeks? Remember the pastrami scene? Tara: No. George: Well, maybe it was Ghostbusters? Where ever it was, it worked! Wed Sep 23 07:17:16 -0700 2009 5050468 243273 pacheeseguy 5 5056644 Is this from a sitcom? I thought we were talking about the Fox News article which is a spin-off of the article from the Times of London. Neither have anything to do with the Times article... about man cooking with fire vs raw food. Thu Sep 24 19:08:56 -0700 2009 5051671 137946 Scargod 6 5057474 Yes, it's a scene from an old episode of Seinfeld. Discussion about food and sex being connected. Fri Sep 25 07:31:26 -0700 2009 5056644 243273 pacheeseguy