653528 Sat Sep 19 17:05:17 -0700 2009 35 31 Home Cooking 0 5042760 I m planning a special dinner and Im dead set on making the real boeuf bourguignon which involves flambeing cognac. Im terrified of the idea of flambeing a dish. I have never done it before. Any tips on how to handle this task besides not wearing polyester on that day? Sat Sep 19 17:05:18 -0700 2009 1110393 CHEFINTHECLOSET 1 5042877 Have no fear. No long, fluttery sleeves. If you have long hair, tie it back. Make sure you Remove the pan from the heat before adding the warmed cognac to set it afire. You don't want a firestorm, just a little flambe in the pan. Use a fireplace match. Keep a pan lid nearby, just in case. Follow the recipe. You'll be fine. Sat Sep 19 18:07:10 -0700 2009 5042760 95137 mcsheridan 2 5042949 VERY important element in the previous post. "Just a little flambe in the pan". Don't add too much congnac because the more you use the greater amount of flame you will generate. Be careful not to flinch when the flame develops. That can cause you to spill your flambe and burning liquids spilled on guests (or yourself) is not a good thing. Many restaurants flambe in a chaffing dish or other vessel that is resting firmly in a rack at the table to minimize the chance of spillage. Sat Sep 19 18:52:10 -0700 2009 5042877 203621 todao 3 5044660 I don't have a chaffing dish, will that make a difference? What type of pan do I use then? Sun Sep 20 17:40:57 -0700 2009 5042949 1110393 CHEFINTHECLOSET 4 5045298 You are not making bananas foster or presenting table side, in which case you would hopefully use a copper crepe pan. In either event when you are making bourguignon and opting to add the cognac it is usually added after the meat is browned in the same pan or pot you are cooking in. This is not a flambe for presentation. I do not suggest you use matches to ignite your flambe. One of the little butane grill lighters with the trigger that you can get at any grocery or hardware store will work nicely and you won't drop any thing in your pot. I typically use my Le Creuset for this. If you really want to get carried away Mauviel does make a flambe pan however this also is a presentation piece. You can remove the pan from the heat if you wish but the cognac should be warm/hot before you ignite it. Personally I just put it in the pan hot and tilt the pan to ignite if I need to. Nothing to it really. http://www.williams-sonoma.com/products/sku4782751/index.cfm Mon Sep 21 03:44:01 -0700 2009 5044660 253154 Fritter 5 5045624 Just to clarify that tilting the pan to ignite doesn't apply if the stove is electric - OP does not say if it is or isn't. Mon Sep 21 07:31:57 -0700 2009 5045298 159317 greygarious 2 5044656 thanks for the tips;D Sun Sep 20 17:39:09 -0700 2009 5042877 1110393 CHEFINTHECLOSET 2 5046005 Be sure to measure out the cognac and pour it in a separate container. You never want to pour from a bottle because the flame can travel up the neck and can ignite the contents of the bottle. The results aren't pretty. I learned this from experience. Mon Sep 21 09:28:40 -0700 2009 5042877 22220 Kelli2006 1 5043191 Do not pour the cognac from the bottle directly into the pan. Pour the amount you need into a small pan, and then pour it into the flambé pan. I don't bother to take the pan off the heat, but then I've done it lots of times. KEEP YOUR FACE WAY BACK FROM THE PAN. Develop longer arms, if necessary :-) Sat Sep 19 22:42:30 -0700 2009 5042760 13143 souschef 2 5044657 Some helpful tips here. Thanks/;) Sun Sep 20 17:39:55 -0700 2009 5043191 1110393 CHEFINTHECLOSET 1 5044692 Good advice above. But most of all, don't be afraid. Remember, alcohol burns fairly cool (as these things go). Do be careful, do have a fire extinguisher handy in case you need it, but don't get all freaked out about the flames. They're **relatively** harmless. Sun Sep 20 17:57:56 -0700 2009 5042760 58743 alanbarnes 1 5045310 I second not using too much of the cognac! (I tried replying to poster below and couldn't for some reason...) When I was about 12 my adventerous aunt and I decided to make bananas foster...we had triple bananas so why not triple the rum? well, we almost ended up with no eyebrows and she almost got a new kitchen but ultimately all was fine and very delicious. My main rec would be if you are skittish about introducing a flame using one of those long automatic clicker lighters to give yourself some distance and keeping a tight fitting lid around - no oxygen means no flames! Mon Sep 21 04:16:25 -0700 2009 5042760 1099849 kayowinter 2 5045440 If there are no flames there is no flambe'. ;) Not that it really matters a whole lot for a bourguignon as the alcohol is going to cook out any how. Mon Sep 21 06:10:14 -0700 2009 5045310 253154 Fritter 3 5045568 I was kind of wondering if the whole flambe thing was really necessary- Mon Sep 21 07:15:21 -0700 2009 5045440 18353 DGresh 4 5045653 I found a lot of different recipes in french cookbooks. I've checked french cuisine forums. The most highly rated boeuf bourguignon recipes called for flambeing the meat in cognac.... Mon Sep 21 07:42:24 -0700 2009 5045568 1110393 CHEFINTHECLOSET 5 5045792 You really don't have to flambe the cognac to use it. The alcohol is going to cook out either way. OTOH there is no reason to fear it either. Mon Sep 21 08:29:42 -0700 2009 5045653 253154 Fritter 1 5046303 Don't have your hood fan on. It may have grease on it like mine and catch on fire, melting the plastic, and shooting melted plastic all over the place. Lesson learned, lol. Mon Sep 21 10:57:31 -0700 2009 5042760 72196 spoggly 2 5046509 A plastic vent hood? Yikes. Mon Sep 21 11:55:55 -0700 2009 5046303 253154 Fritter 3 5046884 okay so now Im actuall sh......ing in my pants at the idea. I m turning into a coward as we speak... Im thinking maybe I need to find a recipe with no flambe ...ing involved. So I guess I won't be able to impress my guest;( Mon Sep 21 13:39:44 -0700 2009 5046509 1110393 CHEFINTHECLOSET 4 5047155 Do you want to impress your guest with the taste or are they going to see the fire part? If the former, and you really don't want to play with fire, you could just skip that step. The cognac is going to be in there in any case. Mon Sep 21 15:08:47 -0700 2009 5046884 18353 DGresh 5 5047225 i'm already playing with fire, so just a little more will add up to the mood;)) Mon Sep 21 15:33:35 -0700 2009 5047155 1110393 CHEFINTHECLOSET 4 5047180 There is nothing to be afraid of by flambeing a entrée. What the forum is saying is that common sense safety precautions must be observed. At 4:30 Alton Brown explains the safety precautions when flambeing a dish. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuGVkqPddg8 Mon Sep 21 15:15:32 -0700 2009 5046884 22220 Kelli2006 5 5047239 Thanks for the tip. Most helpful. Mon Sep 21 15:37:50 -0700 2009 5047180 1110393 CHEFINTHECLOSET 4 5047204 Start off with just a little bit of cognac; if you use, say, half the recipe amount at first, it won't flame much at all, and you'll get over your pyrophobia. Then add the rest and repeat the flambe-ing. What's the worst that can happen? (don't answer that). Mon Sep 21 15:22:49 -0700 2009 5046884 98500 Bat Guano 5 5047226 Yes Im all for safety and you are toooooooo funny;) Mon Sep 21 15:34:13 -0700 2009 5047204 1110393 CHEFINTHECLOSET 6 5047267 "So I guess I won't be able to impress my guest" I think there must be some confusion. When you put cognac in bourguignon there is nothing for your guests to see. You should be burning off the alcohol and then adding the wine and cooking for at least another hour. I don't think any one is going to be terribly impressed by burning alcohol and then waiting to eat for an hour and a half. Impress them by making the dish taste and look good. Seriously your focusing on minutiae. Now wipe yerself and get back to work! ;) Mon Sep 21 15:47:40 -0700 2009 5047226 253154 Fritter 7 5047349 okay so what is your recipe for a good boeuf bourguignon? Mon Sep 21 16:23:52 -0700 2009 5047267 1110393 CHEFINTHECLOSET 8 5048252 I doubt there's any thing wrong with the recipe you have but the flambe in beef Burgandy has nothing to do with your guests or presentation. Google the Ina Garten version. The stove is exactly the place you should be doing this unless you have a very low hood with a plastic fan or one of those over the stove microwave units. I sincerely hope no one has low bare cabinets directly over their stove. You just need to use a moderate amount of alcohol at a time. At the risk of being totally redundant use the Cognac and don't ignite it. As has been noted already you will be adding more alcohol with the wine and cooking it down. If you use this method I suggest you reduce the amount of cognac by 1/2 - 2/3 (or not use it at all). Depending on the cut of beef you use you should be prepared to let this cook longer than the recipe indicates. Tue Sep 22 02:49:27 -0700 2009 5047349 253154 Fritter 9 5048798 This is a great tip. Thanks;) Tue Sep 22 08:23:35 -0700 2009 5048252 1110393 CHEFINTHECLOSET 2 5047700 That happened to my brother - the plastic spinning bit in the hood (covered in grease as they all are) caught on fire, still spinning - plastic everywhere, and most of the hood iteself was totally destroyed. Very amusing (but not his landlord!!). Definitely don't flambe on the stove top under the hood (whether it is on or not!!). Mon Sep 21 18:46:30 -0700 2009 5046303 261734 AussieBeth 1 5047903 Don't do it underneath the upper cabinets!!! Mon Sep 21 20:19:30 -0700 2009 5042760 19782 Full tummy 1 5051335 It doesn't look like you're going ahead with this. What I'd try (at the risk of wasting precious booze) is a small amount of brandy in a previously empty pan, and using the tilting method described. When you know how much that flames, you have some reference point. Wed Sep 23 04:10:19 -0700 2009 5042760 180623 Soop 1 5066849 Avoir coeur mon ami. Just do it once with a little cognac and you will see that it is quite harmless. It flames up for moment and then the flames become much smaller. This is because it first catches all of the vaporized alcohol on fire but this quickly is consumed and then is more like a candle or gas stove if you can imagine that. Cognac has a relatively low alcohol content. You should be worried when you start playing around with vodka and the like because they make a big poof when ignited. If you don't have a long lighter or long matches what I have found to be ver effective is to hold a match in a large pliers. Once you become more comfortable with this, which I am sure you will, turn off the lights. Cognac makes a beautiful blue flame. Tue Sep 29 09:49:43 -0700 2009 5042760 228737 Will S. 2 5066897 Depending on what OP decides, I think I may be the only weenie who will *never* do this myself at home. I might do it at someone else's home, LOL, but never *mine*. I wish I had the guts, and on most things I do, but not this. I enjoy the idea, not to mention the reality, of having a roof over my head. :-) Tue Sep 29 10:01:23 -0700 2009 5066849 1104013 Normandie 3 5067657 I don't understand your concern. I have flambeed many times (chicken, crepes suzette, etc), and it is not dangerous. You just have to follow the tips in this thread. Tue Sep 29 14:05:22 -0700 2009 5066897 13143 souschef 3 5067847 You might want to try it on the grill if you are concerned about the danger of fire inside of your home. Tue Sep 29 16:03:55 -0700 2009 5066897 22220 Kelli2006