653481 Sat Sep 19 12:38:10 -0700 2009 8 18 Manhattan 0 5042297 Went back there last night after long time not going. Pleasant surprise on a few things. First things to avoid: In ascending order of no goodness. 1. Potato Salad. Just vile. 2. Potato pancake. More bread like than nice shreds of potato fried into a pancake. 3. Chopped liver platter. Not really bad, but not worth getting. I has the vile potato salad, decent cole slaw, ok tomato and onion slices on a bed of lettuce. The chopped liver itself seemed sweet, as if it had some sugar added. Verdict, you can get better chopped liver at Waldbaums. 4. Kreplach in chicken soup. Soup was actually ok to pretty good. Matzo ball better than kreplach. Now to the stars of the show. I have only good to say about the meat sandwiches. Four of us ordered one brisket and two Woody Allen (corned beef and pastrami combo). The meat was juicy and flavorful. The combo sandwich was comically large, consisting of nice tender thin slices of hot juicy pastrami and corned beef. A small dish of Russian dressing was way superior to the poor stuff at Katz's. Went great with the meat and slaw. Had to eat with a fork, way to big to try to pick up and take bites from. Took home 2 halves of combo and a little brisket. Photo shows brisket sandwich in the background and half or Woody combo in the foreground. Where does a Moyel keep his implements? In a brisket. Sat Sep 19 12:38:10 -0700 2009 28638 phantomdoc 1 5042398 Nice to see something positive about this place. It is a favorite of mine..we love going late night for the BEST cheesecake too..so wish it wasn't a 10 hour drive! Sat Sep 19 13:42:21 -0700 2009 5042297 125064 ddawnzer 1 5042410 I agree with your assessment, phantomdoc. I love Carnegie Deli's Woody Allen. Sometimes I go for just a regular corned beef. Love the matzoh ball soup too, and the cheesecake is delicious. Sat Sep 19 13:47:43 -0700 2009 5042297 255446 Gigi007 1 5042768 ive only had carnegie deli via catered lunches at my office. i love carnegie deli...sometimes more than katzs... Sat Sep 19 17:07:50 -0700 2009 5042297 14393 sam1 2 5043018 Last time at Katz's all but pastrami was disappointment. Bad soup, knishes, brisket, french fries, Russian dressing. Good pastrami and Dr. Brown cel-ray. Sat Sep 19 19:38:56 -0700 2009 5042768 28638 phantomdoc 3 5043034 I've never been that impressed by Katz's. The pastrami and sometimes (but not always) the corned beef are really good, but I've never found anything else there to be excellent. It also looks kind of rundown. Sat Sep 19 19:49:18 -0700 2009 5043018 255446 Gigi007 4 5043038 The main benefit to Katz's is that you can taste your meat before they make your sandwich. If you do not care for that piece they will get another for you. I miss the time when the knishes were fabulous. Sat Sep 19 19:53:02 -0700 2009 5043034 28638 phantomdoc 5 5043041 I agree. Btw, who sells the best knishes in the city? The last time I was up, I got some at Zabar's. They were pretty good, but I've had better (years ago at Katz's for ex). Sat Sep 19 19:55:02 -0700 2009 5043038 255446 Gigi007 6 5043394 I have to send you to Queens. IMHO Knish Nosh on Queens Blvd is the best in recent memory. They have been there about 50 years, well almost same location, they moved once, across the street. Same guy behind the counter. Love the balance of seasoning on the potato and the kasha. Sun Sep 20 05:56:54 -0700 2009 5043041 28638 phantomdoc