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coppernovice Sep 18, 2009 11:02 AM

I am a newbie to copper, but made a big leap (at least in $$) by purchasing several pieces. The two most significant and most expensive (!) are a 6 Gallon 12"x12" 2.5mm thick (minimum, it may be thicker but I don't have a caliper in mm, just inches) stock pot (yes, almost too heavy to lift even when empty) with the mark "Guillard Paris" and a casserole, with the same marking and thickness, that measures 10"h x 12"w. I also purchased several misc pieces, a copper bowl, a collander, a caramel pan, a very small sauce pan, etc.,. The lot was purchased for $350 at an estate sale. My questions are as follows:
1. Does anyone know anything about Guillard. I have not seen this line mentioned in any threads

2. Although no copper is showing through the tin lining, there are blackish areas on the bottom of the pans. I have cleaned them well and am now wondering if the black areas are a problem that will require me to re-tin the pots even though there is no visible copper.

3. If I wanted to resell the overly heavy stock pot, what would be a fair price (assuming it does not need re-tinning)?

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    ThreeGigs Sep 18, 2009 01:15 PM

    Guillard is (or was) a French maker of cookware. Name doesn't matter for thick tinned copper, however, as it's all basically alike (caveat on THICK).

    Ignore the blackened areas, it's a normal occurrence on tinned interiors.

    Check eBay for pricing. But I'd say a 24 quart thick copper stockpot should probably command a minimum of $300, and maybe get as much as $600 if the lining is intact. Make sure to list it with exact capacity, and the weight of the pot empty without lid, along with the approximate thickness.

    A 12 inch diameter by 12 inch tall copper pot that's 2.5mm thick should weigh about 18-19 lbs., and hold about 22 quarts.

    1. Soop Sep 22, 2009 08:03 AM

      if you can get that much, it could be worth selling. I've heard of people using them to cool stock quickly, but I'm under the impression that a thin SS stock pot is just as good if not better; most of the heat is going to go into heating the liquid inside.

      Of course I could be wrong, but I'd prefer $280 and a SS pot that $0 and a copper one :D

      1. alarash Jun 20, 2010 08:59 PM

        Hi there coppernovice,
        I collect Gaillard copper cookware, and have several pieces. I would be interested in making you an offer for your copper cookware. Please let me know how I can contact you. I think you'll be pleased to hear what I have to say.
        Thanks!
        my email is quddus @ gmail.com

        1. kaleokahu Jun 24, 2010 08:11 PM

          You Lucky Fool:

          You have 2 large Gaillard pans, which are unquestionably the finest copperware ever made.(hence Allarash's "kind" offer to take them off your hands!). Rare indeed.

          Your stockpot in a restored condition should bring $800 to $1000 on a bad day and without the lids. List them on eBay with a proper description and photos, and watch the feeding frenzy!

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          1. re: kaleokahu
            alarash Jun 25, 2010 10:28 AM

            I didn't know they are "unquestionably the finest copperware ever made," but that is nice to know, though it is an opinion (a pretty lop-sided one!). The thickness of the copper on the Gaillard pans I have is 2.5-3.0 mm, and I have other copperware with equal thickness copper made by other manufacturers.

            But I would put Gaillard in the top tier, from my experience collecting copper cookware.

            I don't like the insinuation that my offer for purchase would be less than kind, in your clearly sarcastic remark.

            I'm happy to bid on them in a public forum like ebay.

            1. re: alarash
              kaleokahu Jun 25, 2010 04:54 PM

              Hi, Alarash:

              Sorry if I twisted your tail, but c'mon, you were cherry pickin'! Not sarcastic at all, you were just trying to lighten a fellow traveler's burden. That's kind.

              Sounds like you are a very knowledgeable collector. I'm still learning. I was told the better Gaillard saucepans are near 4mm in foil thickness. What other brands would you put in the top tier of manufacturers?

              Cheers

              1. re: kaleokahu
                alarash Jun 25, 2010 08:07 PM

                I'm not very knowledgeable. I've been trying to make myself a nice set of french copperware piece by piece for the past 2 years or so. Most of my purchases come off ebay, and occasionally craigslist, though around here, copper cookware doesn't come up often. I live in Baltimore.

                I have yet to see a 4mm copper pot in any brand. I have seen several 3 mm pots by a few different manufacturers, mostly older tin lined french copperware. Dehillerin, Gaillard, and even W-S pieces can be 3mm.

                Would you mind emailing me your link to the inexpensive 3mm copper saucepans? My email is quddus @ gmail.com

                Thanks in advance!

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