Copper Cookware by Guillard
I am a newbie to copper, but made a big leap (at least in $$) by purchasing several pieces. The two most significant and most expensive (!) are a 6 Gallon 12"x12" 2.5mm thick (minimum, it may be thicker but I don't have a caliper in mm, just inches) stock pot (yes, almost too heavy to lift even when empty) with the mark "Guillard Paris" and a casserole, with the same marking and thickness, that measures 10"h x 12"w. I also purchased several misc pieces, a copper bowl, a collander, a caramel pan, a very small sauce pan, etc.,. The lot was purchased for $350 at an estate sale. My questions are as follows:
1. Does anyone know anything about Guillard. I have not seen this line mentioned in any threads
2. Although no copper is showing through the tin lining, there are blackish areas on the bottom of the pans. I have cleaned them well and am now wondering if the black areas are a problem that will require me to re-tin the pots even though there is no visible copper.
3. If I wanted to resell the overly heavy stock pot, what would be a fair price (assuming it does not need re-tinning)?
Guillard is (or was) a French maker of cookware. Name doesn't matter for thick tinned copper, however, as it's all basically alike (caveat on THICK).
Ignore the blackened areas, it's a normal occurrence on tinned interiors.
Check eBay for pricing. But I'd say a 24 quart thick copper stockpot should probably command a minimum of $300, and maybe get as much as $600 if the lining is intact. Make sure to list it with exact capacity, and the weight of the pot empty without lid, along with the approximate thickness.
A 12 inch diameter by 12 inch tall copper pot that's 2.5mm thick should weigh about 18-19 lbs., and hold about 22 quarts.
if you can get that much, it could be worth selling. I've heard of people using them to cool stock quickly, but I'm under the impression that a thin SS stock pot is just as good if not better; most of the heat is going to go into heating the liquid inside.
Of course I could be wrong, but I'd prefer $280 and a SS pot that $0 and a copper one :D
Hi there coppernovice,
I collect Gaillard copper cookware, and have several pieces. I would be interested in making you an offer for your copper cookware. Please let me know how I can contact you. I think you'll be pleased to hear what I have to say.
my email is quddus @ gmail.com
You Lucky Fool:
You have 2 large Gaillard pans, which are unquestionably the finest copperware ever made.(hence Allarash's "kind" offer to take them off your hands!). Rare indeed.
Your stockpot in a restored condition should bring $800 to $1000 on a bad day and without the lids. List them on eBay with a proper description and photos, and watch the feeding frenzy!
I didn't know they are "unquestionably the finest copperware ever made," but that is nice to know, though it is an opinion (a pretty lop-sided one!). The thickness of the copper on the Gaillard pans I have is 2.5-3.0 mm, and I have other copperware with equal thickness copper made by other manufacturers.
But I would put Gaillard in the top tier, from my experience collecting copper cookware.
I don't like the insinuation that my offer for purchase would be less than kind, in your clearly sarcastic remark.
I'm happy to bid on them in a public forum like ebay.
Sorry if I twisted your tail, but c'mon, you were cherry pickin'! Not sarcastic at all, you were just trying to lighten a fellow traveler's burden. That's kind.
Sounds like you are a very knowledgeable collector. I'm still learning. I was told the better Gaillard saucepans are near 4mm in foil thickness. What other brands would you put in the top tier of manufacturers?
I'm not very knowledgeable. I've been trying to make myself a nice set of french copperware piece by piece for the past 2 years or so. Most of my purchases come off ebay, and occasionally craigslist, though around here, copper cookware doesn't come up often. I live in Baltimore.
I have yet to see a 4mm copper pot in any brand. I have seen several 3 mm pots by a few different manufacturers, mostly older tin lined french copperware. Dehillerin, Gaillard, and even W-S pieces can be 3mm.
Would you mind emailing me your link to the inexpensive 3mm copper saucepans? My email is quddus @ gmail.com
Thanks in advance!