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π, yet more pizza in the mission?

augustiner Sep 13, 2009 01:51 PM

i walked past the space that used to house suriya, the thai restaurant on valencia between 26th and 25th, and noted work on a new restaurant that will be called π. as in pie. pizza pie. there was a letter taped to the window from the owners reminiscing about "the pizza man" from growing up in queens. basically the letter says that it's supposed to be new york style pizza with better ingredients. you know, fresh, seasonsustainablelocalblahblah. they're stating that hopefully when people from back east come to visit and ask where to get pizza, they will no longer have to stare at their feet and change the subject.

i didn't see any indication of when they are set to open, but peering through the shut curtains, the space inside looks ready to go.

so, between delfina pizzeria, beretta, flour+water, and this place, there will be no shortage of hip pizza joints in the mission for people to argue about. although this one will be really close to me, so here's crossing my fingers that it will be good. although i wouldn't be able to chime in on how it stands up to new york pizza, but that's not important to me anyway.

  1. rworange Sep 13, 2009 05:44 PM

    Dumb name. Hope the pizza is better. Do people who name restaurants unsearchable names even use the internet?

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    1. re: rworange
      wolfe Sep 14, 2009 06:56 AM

      It depends on how much you want to search.

      1. re: rworange
        Robert Lauriston Sep 15, 2009 11:02 AM

        π is actually quite searchable:


        1. re: Robert Lauriston
          rworange Sep 15, 2009 12:28 PM

          But then I have to first figure out whar combo of keys will produce yhat symbol

          1. re: rworange
            Robert Lauriston Sep 15, 2009 12:32 PM

            If it's something you're looking at onscreen, just copy and paste.

            1. re: Robert Lauriston
              rworange Sep 16, 2009 11:33 AM

              And if I'm not looking at it on the screen?

              I am not trying to look it up now since it isn't open. The point is they lose business doing little tricks like this. They certainly won't get my business.

              1. re: rworange
                Robert Lauriston Sep 16, 2009 11:44 AM

                Given the apparently insatiable demand for pizza in that neighborhood, that's probably not a problem.

                1. re: Robert Lauriston
                  rworange Sep 16, 2009 12:00 PM

                  Hey ... let's get pizza tonight. How about that new place.

                  Calls information

                  Gets recorded message and asks for pie ... no listing ... gets live operator who asks "How do you spell that?"

                  Moment of silence

                  Never mind ... let me have the number for ...names another nearby pizza place.

                  Any restaurant that positions itself to lose business is dumb

                  1. re: rworange
                    ernie in berkeley Sep 16, 2009 02:05 PM

                    It's like the Mission place named "Pizzeria". Try doing a Google search to find the address.

                    1. re: ernie in berkeley
                      Robert Lauriston Sep 16, 2009 02:22 PM

                      Wow, that seems like it might be a deliberate attempt to dodge Web searches. Like the wine bar called WINE.

                      659 Valencia St, San Francisco, CA 94110

          2. re: Robert Lauriston
            Pei Sep 15, 2009 08:05 PM

            It's still a dumb name. It's barely a pun. It would be as if flour + water's name were a picture of a daisy (get it, flower?) + H2O

            Plus, how does pi even relate to pizza pie? Maybe if the owner trained for 3.14 years in New York or bakes the pies for 3.14 minutes or uses 3.14 pounds of flour per batch of dough. I don't know. It annoys me.

            1. re: Pei
              Frosty Melon Sep 16, 2009 08:35 AM

              Not sure if it's still the plan, but I swear I recall an early report that slices were going to start at $3.14. It's still a stretch to justify the name, but there it is.

              1. re: Frosty Melon
                wolfe Sep 16, 2009 08:56 AM

                I don't know, π is related to circles. Pizzas are usually round. Slices made across the pizza are diameters. I figure the area of the pizza by πr-squared and divide the cost of the pizza by that value to come up with the cost/sq. inch. That's another reason I like Lanesplitter cheese pizza. Not only is it good but the extra large, pick up only, is about 4 cents/ sq. inch.

              2. re: Pei
                psb Jan 3, 2010 03:48 AM

                >It's still a dumb name. It's barely a pun.
                whenever i go there, i think ħ [pronounced h-bar, aka h/2pi, from planck's constant]
                would have been a more clever "geeky" name.

                i had a sausage and pep slice tonight. they werent as good as before, but

                whether or not $3.14 is steep for a cheese slice, the 25cent
                per extra topping is a good deal, esp since they give you a decent amount
                of pepperoni. arinell is too unreliable, and if were going to pull out the fancy
                math, the Arinell Expectation Value is not good at all [you integrate over the
                continuum of slice quality, multiplied by probability and compare to the price ...
                at least 50% of the slices dont come out well enough to have a consumer

            2. re: rworange
              BernalKC Sep 16, 2009 11:24 AM

              "Range" is another name where someone forget to consider Google. Now that they are successful it is semi-easy to search for them, but when they opened I remember it was basically impossible to search for 'restaurant range valencia' since every restaurant has a price range.... marketing in the age of page rank...

            3. s
              SarahKC Sep 14, 2009 05:29 PM

              When's it supposed to open?

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              1. re: SarahKC
                BernalKC Sep 15, 2009 10:40 AM

                Last I heard, via EaterSf in late August, it was day to day. Permitting issues == unpredictable opening. http://sf.eater.com/tags/pi-bar

                1. re: BernalKC
                  Robert Lauriston Sep 15, 2009 11:00 AM

                  Nobody ever knows how long it will take to pass inspections, particularly in SF.

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                bernalman Sep 16, 2009 12:55 PM

                I heard they were going to slice 22 inch diameter pizzas into 7 slices, so that each pizza slice would be 3.14 inches.

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                1. re: bernalman
                  steve h. Sep 16, 2009 02:33 PM

                  22/7 would be an interesting name for a pi shop.

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