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  <id>651699</id>
  <title>good date spot in the east village...jack's luxury oyster bar? degustation? perbacco?</title>
  <published_at>Fri Sep 11 12:15:22 -0700 2009</published_at>
  <post_count>20</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>18</id>
    <name>Manhattan</name>
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    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>5022689</id>
        <content>im kind of at a loss here. i have a rather special date next week in the east village and dont want something over the top but it should be in the east village or by clinton street in the LES...

i can't really think of anything that is comfortable yet good for a date in that area. 

ive been to degustation and thought maybe 4 dishes and a glass of wine would be a good idea but id like something a bit more private...

any ideas here?</content>
        <published_at>Fri Sep 11 12:15:22 -0700 2009</published_at>
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        <user>
          <id>14393</id>
          <name>sam1</name>
        </user>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5022737</id>
      <content>Perbacco is great
Also: Pylos, Lavagna, Tre, apizz, Freeman's, Apiary

www.thelunchbelle.com</content>
      <published_at>Fri Sep 11 12:31:58 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5022689</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>110996</id>
        <name>LeahBaila</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5022987</id>
      <content>Perbacco is loud and cramped as you would expect at virtually all the EV trattorias.  In addition some find the food a bit strange, the progressive dishes seem a bit cooking schoolish to me, sorta like the chef is trying to hard.  Not a good spot for a special date...Degustation is not private at all, but for foodies, its romantic....Peasant might fit, although its a bit west of the EV...</content>
      <published_at>Fri Sep 11 13:51:52 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5022737</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10479</id>
        <name>Cpalms</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5037703</id>
      <content>I dont think Pylos or Freeman's would be in the romantic category tho.

I did valentines at Jack's, it's a winner. Subtext and ambiance. 

Aroma on E 4th, just west of Bowery. It's small but quiet and cozy, great food in house sommelier (i think its the owner) really friendly people. Def call ahead, they have 2 high tables in the covered vestibule, I usually ask to not be seated at those. Still I heart this place big.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Sep 17 13:49:27 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5022737</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>21954</id>
        <name>2slices</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5022761</id>
      <content>The food may be a notch or two down from Jack's or Degustation, but you may want to consider il buco.  You can put together a really nice meal just from their various apps.  It's very cozy, and you'll probably get a little more privacy than at the places you mentioned.  Allen and Delancy might be a nice option too, even though it's a little out of your specified area.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Sep 11 12:40:41 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5022689</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>94227</id>
        <name>egit</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5022852</id>
      <content>anyone have any experience with salt bar on clinton? or sorella?</content>
      <published_at>Fri Sep 11 13:02:01 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5022689</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>14393</id>
        <name>sam1</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5022953</id>
      <content>Love Sorella, great date spot.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Sep 11 13:39:45 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5022852</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>91135</id>
        <name>liztish</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5022978</id>
      <content>I wouldn't go to salt bar for a date; at least not a date where you're hoping for a cozy, private spot.  It has it charms.  Or it had its charms; they went through a mgmt change a few months ago and the menu changed, the vibe changed, the staff changed, etc.  I used to go there about once a week for several months.  Haven't been there since... hmm.... early July, I think.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Sep 11 13:49:10 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5022852</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>94227</id>
        <name>egit</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5023328</id>
      <content>Sorella would be good for a date, if you can score a table in the back (they don't take reservations).  Like Perbacco, there's a risk of sharing a communal dining space if you eat in the front.  The same is true of Salt Bar, which is also impossibly loud.

Of course, if Sorella's in your sights, Allen &amp; Delancey makes sense too.  I like the look of Antibes on Suffolk for a date, but I haven't yet eaten there so can't comment on the food.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Sep 11 16:16:43 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5022852</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10475</id>
        <name>Wilfrid</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5023013</id>
      <content>Here's a nice Sorella review
http://www.nycfoodie.com/nycfoodie/</content>
      <published_at>Fri Sep 11 13:59:23 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5022689</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>91135</id>
        <name>liztish</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5023512</id>
      <content>Little Giant might work, if you're willing to go below Delancey.  I wouldn't call it private, exactly, but it is pretty cozy. I've only been there once, and I loved the food.

http://www.littlegiantnyc.com/flash.html

I like Perbacco a lot also, but I concur with Cpalms - loud, cramped.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Sep 11 18:03:41 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5022689</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13722</id>
        <name>small h</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5024991</id>
      <content>Jack's is great food but it can be cramped.  I had a really good date that started there, then we went around the corner to umino ie on 3rd for some extra nibbles and soju flights.  Umino Ie has a cozy boho chic decor but their menu is superb(if you are into Japanese home cooking) and the soju menu is one of the most impressive in the city.  If you're really having fun consider just settling in there and ordering a bottle of heihachiro.

It's not going to impress for fanciness but it's a good, relaxing spot.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Sep 12 13:50:33 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5022689</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>205984</id>
        <name>mrgreenbeenz</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5029657</id>
      <content>I'm a fan of Grape &amp; Grain - intimate &amp; cozy for a date yet lively &amp; enough space to be comfortable/EV vibe-ish.  Share some small dishes, enjoy a bottle of good (and inexpensive) wine.  Also has good beer selection &amp; music (low but nice.)
</content>
      <published_at>Mon Sep 14 15:26:23 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5022689</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>282366</id>
        <name>Nicolle</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5030770</id>
      <content>Second that

www.thelunchbelle.com</content>
      <published_at>Tue Sep 15 05:20:00 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5029657</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>110996</id>
        <name>LeahBaila</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5037709</id>
      <content>Third. I Wouldn't have thought of that. Good idea, more casual but tasty and real nice staff.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Sep 17 13:51:16 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5029657</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>21954</id>
        <name>2slices</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5038823</id>
      <content>I just checked their menupages.com menu. How big are the appetizers, and which are most worth the price, in your opinion? Any favorites among the pizzas?</content>
      <published_at>Thu Sep 17 23:57:56 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5029657</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>17058</id>
        <name>Pan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>5086456</id>
      <content>I just saw this - the portions aren't large but they're satisfying.  

We ordered:
4 appetizers (white bean dip, Baby Arugula Salad, Tuna Carpaccio, Baked Meatballs)
3 cheeses (Artisanal Cheese Selection, don't recall what)
1 sandwich (Mozzarella)
1 pizza (Artichoke)
dessert (I don't recall)

And had well more than enough food - my boyfriend tends to overorder, still.  

I think we would've been content with
2 appetizers
pizza 
sandwich
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      <published_at>Wed Oct 07 14:20:35 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5038823</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>282366</id>
        <name>Nicolle</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5030790</id>
      <content>I think The Readhead would be a good spot.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Sep 15 05:35:10 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5022689</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1089411</id>
        <name>bbqdawg</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5031228</id>
      <content>well kids...i went to degustation in the end. and while i continue to believe that the food is merely 'good,' it was a rather perfect place for my date. it surprisingly is private (if you want it to be). service was great, the chefs friendly, and everything worked well. 

sorella is next on my list...they were just closed on mondays. </content>
      <published_at>Tue Sep 15 08:36:05 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5022689</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>14393</id>
        <name>sam1</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5086484</id>
      <content>thanks, sam. degustation is now on the radar.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Oct 07 14:28:21 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5031228</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10627</id>
        <name>steve h.</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5087860</id>
      <content>Slightly off topic question but does the Perbacco in the city have any connection to the one in San Fran?

Had one of the best meals of my life there about 2 &#189; years ago, would def be willing to try the NY incarnate if true, but I didn&#8217;t think so.
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      <published_at>Thu Oct 08 06:39:59 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5022689</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>177720</id>
        <name>Asumnuthin</name>
      </user>
    </post>
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