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John Dory - Closed?!?!?

baldwinwood Sep 9, 2009 09:01 AM

That was a short run.

I thought the food and wine list were both pretty good.

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    RGR Sep 9, 2009 09:17 AM

    I, too, liked the food. (Not much of a wine drinker.)

    The owners have said they will re-open in a different location. That, of course, remains to be seen. Meanwhile, the entire John Dory staff has been transferred to the new restaurant, The Breslin, the owners are opening in the Ace Hotel

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      Cpalms Sep 9, 2009 09:31 AM

      the place had great food....but was in an ugly room, in a terrible location and was wildly expensive...and it had none of the exclusivity that the owners are know for and I'm sure will be at the Breslin...

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        RGR Sep 9, 2009 09:51 AM

        Re: "terrible location." Craftsteak and Del Posto are both right there, and The John Dory was doing fine at dinner. However, as I understand it, the problem was the owners were counting on a big lunch business, and the location was very poor for that.

        I don't agree that the decor was ugly, but it certainly was unusual.

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          Cpalms Sep 9, 2009 10:33 AM

          The location is poor because Craftsteak and Del Posto are destination restaurants (big box places headlined by perhaps the two most visible chefs in the US), where, in theory diners will seek them out where ever they are, whereas JD is basically a neighborhood place. In addition their backers have HUGE financial commitments (what do think the build out of Del Posto cost?) therefore they would stick it out far longer then the backers of JD. If they thought they were going to do a big lunch business, they deserve to go down in flames like they did. If I had a dime for every restaurant closing blamed on poor lunch business I'd be a very rich man....

          JD is neighborhood place stuck in that west Meatpacking no mans land with outlandish (destination type) prices...That is what doomed it.

          Bruni said it alot better than I could on the decor:

          "Mr. Friedman is credited as the decorator, and it’s as if he went on eBay, typed in “fish décor” and bought and made use of everything that popped up. It’s all very “Finding Nemo,” or maybe losing Nemo, because the impact of this visual chaos — ratcheted up by an open kitchen that is a distraction too many — can be to give you a maritime migraine and tug your focus from the edible fish that are the purpose and point of the project."

          or as I called it...Ugly.

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            fourunder Sep 10, 2009 05:11 AM

            In addition their backers have HUGE financial commitments (what do think the build out of Del Posto cost?) therefore they would stick it out far longer then the backers of JD.
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            *Fanta Pants*........is on the cuff for this one.

            http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/eater...

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