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any kosher hotels left in the Catskills?

Miri1 Sep 6, 2009 11:59 PM

Although I live in Los Angeles, my family used to travel frequently to New York and we spent a great deal of time at the Homowack. We also spent time at the Brown's and the one on Kiamesha Lake whose name completely escapes me for the moment. Are there any kosher hotels left in the catskills? I know the latter two are gone, but what about the Homowack? And if it's still there, is it worth a visit?

Thanks! Miri

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    MartyB RE: Miri1 Sep 7, 2009 04:28 AM

    There is the Kutchers and the Raleigh. The Homowack is no more. There is also Oppenheimer’s and I believe that the Lakehouse hotel is now open.

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      jeffcinn RE: MartyB Sep 20, 2009 10:11 PM

      The Lakehouse hotel has been recently opened. That is a good hotel. http://www.bwcollegepark.com

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        ettilou RE: jeffcinn Apr 16, 2012 06:05 PM

        I think your link is wrong....nothing there about the Lakehouse in the Catskills.

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        mariebk RE: MartyB Apr 16, 2012 04:19 PM

        The only Kosher hotel that maybe opened at the Katskills is the Kutcher's, well the owner was thing about opened this season 2012, but don't think that you are going to be on the gamour hotel that was on the 70/80 with great enterteiment commedians... good rooms, dinning room etc. because you will not!

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          mariebk RE: MartyB Apr 16, 2012 04:23 PM

          No more Raleigh or homowack (former Homowack turn in to Spring Glean Mountain Resort some years ago but it's not opened anymore)

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            Moach018 RE: mariebk Apr 17, 2012 07:55 AM

            The Raleigh is still around and kosher year round

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              MartyB RE: Moach018 Apr 18, 2012 03:34 PM

              Sounds real nice. They have a button for Shavousbut it is non-functional at the moment.


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          LThaw RE: Miri1 Sep 19, 2009 07:38 PM

          I think the Granite has reopened in Ellenville and the Pines might be open in South Fallsburg.

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            berel RE: LThaw Sep 20, 2009 07:45 PM

            the Granit isn't in Ellenville it's about 1/2 hour drive North of Ellenvile and it reopened about 10 years ago as the Hudson Valley spa & Resort

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              Moach018 RE: berel Sep 21, 2009 07:48 AM

              The Hudson Valley Resort (formerly Granit) is not kosher except for the long running Pesach program, occasional Yomim Tovim and weekends run by outside groups.

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                berel RE: Moach018 Sep 21, 2009 07:59 AM

                it probably wasn't kosher when it was the granit either. kosher style

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            Doctormhl1 RE: Miri1 Sep 27, 2009 03:03 PM

            I believe the name of the hotel at Lake Kiamesha was known as The Concord.
            It was the largest hotel of all.

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              cheesecake17 RE: Doctormhl1 Sep 29, 2009 09:11 AM

              I heard the Concord may be reopening. I loved that place as a kid

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                berel RE: cheesecake17 Sep 29, 2009 09:34 AM

                as a kosher hotel?

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                  MartyB RE: berel Sep 29, 2009 11:13 AM

                  There is no way one can open that behemoth as kosher only. It would however be nice if there was a kosher presence there. The kosher eating public is too fragmented to support any large hotel, excluding a few weekends and some of the holidays.

                  In the days gone by, people would go every summer to the Catskills. I would happily go year after year to the same place (loved Grossingers). Nowadays, people scatter all over the globe and tire of a place after going there a few times.

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                    berel RE: MartyB Sep 29, 2009 11:43 AM

                    I'm not sure the Concord was ever kosher in it's hayday. I loved Grossingers too. the rooms were awful but the food and facilities and activities , nothing else compared.

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                    cheesecake17 RE: berel Sep 29, 2009 04:24 PM

                    I remember the conversation being that it would open as a regular hotel, with a kosher dining room, but the same style as it used to be.

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                      momrn RE: cheesecake17 Sep 30, 2009 05:10 AM

                      I loved Grossingers also,but I doubt that it would reopen. Years ago, the property was decimated by neglect and by firefighter training,as was the Concord. I don't know if any of golf courses in Grossingers or Concord are still in use.

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                        GilaB RE: momrn Sep 30, 2009 07:08 AM

                        I've walked a course at each over the last two summers with my golf-obsessed husband. The one at the Concord had been closed for renovations in 2008, and when we were there several months ago, there wasn't even a proper clubhouse, just a trailer with golf carts parked outside.

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                    mariebk RE: cheesecake17 Apr 16, 2012 04:25 PM

                    No Conrad sorry

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                  helou RE: Miri1 Apr 18, 2012 01:17 PM

                  There was an article in the papaer this week that the Brown's, which had been renovated and converted to condos, had a big fire.

                  We used to love Kutcher's. Almost all those hotels were kosher, and in their heyday there was no better bargain on the planet. In addition to 3 meals a day, and all the food you could possibly eat, there were day camps for the kids, swiming pools, and activities for just about everybody. Whole multigenerational families could go away together, and everyone had a good time. The shows were free, and there were big name stars performing there all the time.

                  Then airline travel became accessible to the masses, and with the widespread availability of air conditioning, there wasnt' the same desperation to get out of the city in the summer.

                  I miss everything about those times.

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                    syrup09 RE: helou Apr 23, 2012 04:25 PM

                    I heard somewhere that one or more of those hotels became Buddist retreats.

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                      cappucino RE: syrup09 Apr 24, 2012 03:56 AM

                      Yes. I was at Kutschers one Rosh Hashana when the Buddhists came to check the place out. Quite an interesting scene in the lobby. Found out they were holding a retreat there in the weeks after. That was before the current owners took over.

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                        DebbyT RE: syrup09 Apr 24, 2012 05:12 AM

                        We just spent Passover at the Honor's Haven Resort and Spa...formerly the Fallsview in Ellenville. It has been bought by a Korean group and totally renovated. Everything is clean and well-tended. Beautiful (and silly) sculpture garden. Lobby decor is "interesting," at best, but all in good shape. They are NOT kosher year-round.
                        There are signs all over Rte 209 welcoming back the Nevele, which closed several years ago. It was also purchased by a conglomerate of some sort, in the hopes that gambling will come to the Catskills. The whole property has been condemned and one is not allowed to step foot on their grounds, to the point where you cannot even cross over to their side of the falls.
                        During Passover, both the Tamarack Lodge and The Browns burnt down to the ground. Dunno about any of you, but I find the timing and unmitigated success of the fires to be mighty suspicious...

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