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  <id>650326</id>
  <title>Local, pastured, humanely-raised eggs, chicken and milk</title>
  <published_at>Sat Sep 05 20:46:53 -0700 2009</published_at>
  <post_count>21</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>2</id>
    <name>Los Angeles Area</name>
  </board>
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    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>5008404</id>
        <content>Anyone know where I can find organic, pastured, humanely-raised eggs, chicken and milk in Los Angeles?  Preferably from a family farm.  I don't care how much it costs.  No more caging and debeaking chickens and force-feeding corn to cows for me!

Please don't suggest Costco, Trader Joe's or Whole Foods.  If you dig a bit you'll find they don't actually meet these criteria.

Thanks!</content>
        <published_at>Sat Sep 05 20:46:53 -0700 2009</published_at>
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        <user>
          <id>1107171</id>
          <name>jjenred5</name>
        </user>
      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5008452</id>
      <content>Get thee to the farmers' markets.  Lily's Eggs, Montebello Eggs... and you can ask questions (some markets you may need to ask in Spanish).  Hollywood (Sunday mornings) and Santa Monica (Wednesday and Saturday mornings) will have sustainably-raised chickens as well, and maybe milk (don't remember about SM -- I know for sure Hollywood has it).  You can also buy grass-fed beef and bison.

Lily's eggs are in the $4-$5 range per dozen, $7 or so for a flat of 20 eggs.  Down here in OC we have Five Bar grass-fed, sustainably-raised beef from Silverado Canyon, $6 for ground beef, $9 for steaks, $12 for fancy steaks and $15 for offal (all per pound).

And in the meantime go to Co-Opportunity in Santa Monica.  I vividly remember a fight during a membership meeting about where exactly the line ought to be drawn for sustainably, humanely-raised eggs.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Sep 05 21:13:15 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5008404</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10811</id>
        <name>Das Ubergeek</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5008562</id>
      <content>and when you are at co-opportunity check out their bulk foods dept,
it's one of my favorites.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Sep 05 23:26:38 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5008452</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11935</id>
        <name>westsidegal</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5009052</id>
      <content>Santa Monica FM on wed. has all of this as well.  For the most part, they are the exact same vendors.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Sep 06 09:40:30 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5008452</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>254809</id>
        <name>A5 KOBE</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5009202</id>
      <content>I m an avid SM FM shopper and I have found that 'Healthy Family Farms' organic eggs (they also have chicken but I haven't tried it) are the best. I know they are at the saturday mkt in sm and sunday mkt in venice and bh. You can join their CSA and get discounts and pre-order lamb, duck, beef, pork, goat milk, etc. -- healthyfamilyfarms@gmail.com</content>
      <published_at>Sun Sep 06 11:16:44 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5008404</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>236685</id>
        <name>organic snob</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5009606</id>
      <content>Found an informative page about them with schedule:
http://www.localharvest.org/farms/M16881</content>
      <published_at>Sun Sep 06 15:30:22 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5009202</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>40486</id>
        <name>Cinnamon</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>5011644</id>
      <content>that entire website is fantastic!
thank you so much for finding it and sharing it!
it gave information on several local farms, the products they sell, and the farmer's markets at which their products can be found..
(i was astonished to find a listing for an egg  farm in the midwest that raised chickens and DIDN'T kill any chickens,  not even the roosters nor the old ones)</content>
      <published_at>Mon Sep 07 15:04:05 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5009606</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11935</id>
        <name>westsidegal</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>5020966</id>
      <content>You're welcome! (I hope it at least partly makes up for my Dinah's fiasco!)</content>
      <published_at>Thu Sep 10 19:32:36 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5011644</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>40486</id>
        <name>Cinnamon</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>5021052</id>
      <content>there was no fiasco at dinah's, imho.
you were trusting enough to  try to a dish that i like,  and it didn't work out.
if anything,  i should be apologizing to you for a bum steer.

</content>
      <published_at>Thu Sep 10 20:08:28 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5020966</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11935</id>
        <name>westsidegal</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5026565</id>
      <content>Organic Snob, may I ask when's the last time you saw this farm at a farmer's market or heard back from them by e-mail? I stopped in at the Playa Vista farmer's market Saturday hoping to see them but didn't... and then googled around for their actual Website again and ran across this late-2008 article about one of them being briefly jailed in a bust over suspicion of the crime of having sold raw goat milk or something without a license. Is that now ancient history or what?
http://www.venturacountystar.com/news/2008/dec/21/probe-results-in-arrest-for-sales-of-raw-dairy/?partner=yahoo_headlines</content>
      <published_at>Sun Sep 13 11:57:24 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5009202</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>40486</id>
        <name>Cinnamon</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>5027764</id>
      <content>They were certainly at the HFM this morning.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Sep 14 00:27:05 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5026565</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10702</id>
        <name>condiment</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>5041014</id>
      <content>Heard from the company that yes they are operating and going to multiple farmer's markets in the L.A. area.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Sep 18 18:08:53 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5027764</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>40486</id>
        <name>Cinnamon</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5011191</id>
      <content>I get fresh eggs biweekly from the Torrance Farmer's Market from La Bahn Ranch.  They also see whole chicken, chicken parts (i.e. breast, legs, wings,) all separately and they have the innards too (i.e. liver, gizzards).  The prices are actually very reasonable and although they are not certified organic, it is cage free, hormone free, etc.  The eggs there are absolutely delicious and so much creamier than store bought eggs.  I refuse to go back to storebought now (I actually want to raise my own chickens one day!)  

http://talk.2itch.com</content>
      <published_at>Mon Sep 07 11:38:12 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5008404</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>262237</id>
        <name>kushnerom</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5028651</id>
      <content>I buy eggs and whole chickens from them as well. They are delicious. 

There is an Organic Pastures raw milk stand at the Torrance FM, but I'll usually buy Claravale Farms raw milk at Whole Foods or  Broguiere's (pastuerized and not certified organic) since they are local. </content>
      <published_at>Mon Sep 14 10:00:58 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5011191</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>235517</id>
        <name>annapurna7</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>5041015</id>
      <content>I think you mean "pastured" here and not "pasteurized" since that involves heating. (?)</content>
      <published_at>Fri Sep 18 18:09:38 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5028651</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>40486</id>
        <name>Cinnamon</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>5044799</id>
      <content>Broguieres is pasteurized/heated to kill bacteria. I'll still drink it though. I'm not raw milk exclusive. </content>
      <published_at>Sun Sep 20 18:52:38 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5041015</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>235517</id>
        <name>annapurna7</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>5047420</id>
      <content>Oh yeah, that's right - had that once from Bristol Farms.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Sep 21 16:53:37 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5044799</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>40486</id>
        <name>Cinnamon</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5019299</id>
      <content>I've noticed two egg vendors at the Santa Monica market the times I've visited, both on 1st Ave I believe.  The one north of the intersection where there is a tent covering chairs sells lots of cheaper eggs, but when I asked the woman once if her chickens were pasture-raised she looked at me in horror and said no, they were kept off the ground, and did I want them off eating disgusting BUGS? (Uh... yeah, actually).

There's a smaller stand south of the intersection, a guy who sells eggs and chickens and possibly other things.  He says his are completely pasture-raised.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Sep 10 09:26:24 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5008404</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11377</id>
        <name>seattledebs</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5039869</id>
      <content>Thank you everyone!  This is wonderful!!!!!</content>
      <published_at>Fri Sep 18 10:27:00 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5008404</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1107171</id>
        <name>jjenred5</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5039986</id>
      <content>Does anyone know about the humane practices/sustainability of the chicken and egg products at the 3rd and Fairfax farmers market (Puritan Poultry and Farmers Market Poultry)?

Mr Taster</content>
      <published_at>Fri Sep 18 11:10:13 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5008404</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>17579</id>
        <name>Mr Taster</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5045036</id>
      <content>You may want to enquire with the folks at Rawsome.  I've asked them about these issues in the past and they claimed that their sources do all of the above.  Talk with James - it's his show...

Rawsome
665 Rose Avenue
Venice, CA 90291</content>
      <published_at>Sun Sep 20 20:54:37 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5008404</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>64003</id>
        <name>bulavinaka</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5045239</id>
      <content>You could buy a cow and just treat it humanely yourself.  There are people in Los Angeles proper who do that . . .</content>
      <published_at>Mon Sep 21 00:45:22 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5008404</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>179163</id>
        <name>apple7blue</name>
      </user>
    </post>
  </posts>
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