Should I keep my Le Creuset round oven?
I bought a beautiful mustard yellow LC round oven a week ago on a whim. I know it's high quality, and it'll last me a lifetime and a half, but I'm starting to feel guilty that I can't justify spending the money since I already have a crockpot for all the braises and stews that I do. I know the end results are probably noticeably different, but as a student who is short on cash and time, is the crockpot so bad after all?
I know they are entirely separate issues, but I'm currently eyeing a food processor, which I can buy using the money that I get for returning the LC and I still would have money left over. Despite being a student, I love home cooking and do a lot of it, so I would like to get the most out of the money I spent on furnishing my kitchen. That said, I love the dutch oven to bits and it'll break my heart to let it go.
What do you think?
I've got nothing bad to say about LC ovens. I have five of them, and use them often. But in your shoes I'd return it. A dutch oven is a lot more versatile than a crock pot, so I'd suggest you have both, but there are lines of enameled cast iron that work just as well as Le Creuset and cost a whole lot less money. You can maximize the bang for your buck by purchasing a food processor and a relatively inexpensive enameled dutch oven.
Alan is right, as usual. If your budget has you trading one for another, it would make sense to check out the new Lodge enamel cast iron or Mario Batali or any of the others that are much less expensive. If there is any way to keep the LC Dutch oven, it will last you a lifetime, but I have a hunch that the other brands may last a long time too as long as they are properly cared for. I've had some of my LC for more than 30 years, and I have a crockpot also. You can cook more things in an enameled cast iron Dutch oven than a crockpot, so you really should have one in your kitchen. You may just have to compromise a little on which brand until you can afford to spend more on the one pot.
Personally, I hardly ever use a food processor. I did many years ago when I used to bake a lot of pies, but that was a long time ago. I am far more likely to cut and chop with good knives, as one of the other posters suggests. That said, there are things that only a food processor can do, and if you are not cooking some things that you like because you need a food processor, it makes sense to take Alan's suggestion and just spend less money on the Dutch oven for now.
I agree with Alan, too. I was in a similar situation when I started cooking, and I think a food processor is far more useful in the kitchen than even the most gorgeous dutch oven. That said, have you considered a mini-food processor (around $40). I use mine every day and rarely pull out the big one now. Also, consider a 2-qt LC if you're mostly cooking for 1 or 2. You can usually find great deals on the smaller sizes.
you can cook things in the dutch oven that you can't in a crock pot. Try searing or browning meat in a crockpot, for example. You should keep the dutch oven if you're serious about cooking. Conversely, since I've acquired good knives and have developed reasonable skills, I almost never use my food processor. It's not really necessary, IMO
Most respondents have told you why you should return the LC, and they make sense.
I'm going to take the other side of the argument, and I think it also makes sense.
But first I'm going to mention one caveat. If having bought this means that you will not be able to any bills you might have, you should return it. I'm not sure that this is this case, because you seem to want to trade it in for a food processor. But, just in case--remember, you can wreck your credit rating and thereby limit your life for YEARS as easily being a young student, as you can being an established 35-, 45-, 65-year-old. So if you owe anybody any money, or if you're worried about paying your expenses in the coming months, return the LC and *don't* buy the food processor right now.
If that's not the case, then let me mention some of the reasons to keep it, just so you can think about this from both angles.
1) There are times in life when you just have to give in to love. I'm serious about that. It can be about people, or places, but sometimes it can be about things that give you joy, make your life easier in some way, or motivate you to improve some kind of skill you'll use throughout life. Any of those reasons are legitimate.
I'm pretty careful about money. I don't buy a lot of "stuff" and I hardly ever pay full price. But as someone who is probably farther along in life than you are (not sure, so I don't want to assume), I can tell you that the purchases I've regretted in life have been things I haven't loved. OTOH, there were a few items earlier on in adulthood that I fell for, hook, line and sinker, that I had no business buying. They were too expensive for me at the time. There were other things I could have spent my money on that would have fulfilled a greater range of practical needs. You know what? Those things that I felt passion for, but which comprised a financial stretch, are the things that I've kept through the decades, that I've either gotten much use out of, or which have simply brightened one home after another, as I've traveled along, and restored my spirit in some way every time I use them or look at them. I'm looking right now at several oil paintings--not priceless masters, by any means...not even particularly expensive as these things go, but certainly a stretch for my budget at the times that I bought them--and I had to have them. They still sing to my soul, every day. I keep them right here in my kitchen and the adjacent room the kitchen opens up to, so they can cheer me every time I look at them.
2) I know why you love that LC French oven. I love mine, too, and I love my big LC skillet and my Staub ovens, too. I love the warm, beautiful colors they bring into my home. I love the way they help me warm and nourish my family with a hot, delicious meal when they return from school and work on a cold winter night. I like the way they help me make our extended families and friends feel cared about, by helping me cook something to welcome them into our home. I appreciate the way they make my cooking and cleaning chores easier to do.
3) I've never had a food processor. True, I do have a stand mixer and a combination hand mixer/immersion blender, but I've never had a food processor. I can't think of a single thing I've wanted to cook or bake, my whole life long, that I couldn't because I didn't have a food processor. I wouldn't be able to say the same about my pots and pans. Food processors are here to stay. You can still put it on your wish list for the future. If it will really break your heart to return the LC, then you know you want it more than you do the food processor right now. If it really nags at you not to have the food processor, then you know you want it more than you do the LC at the moment.
4) Here are some of the things I could do with my French ovens, in a pinch, if I had no other specialized pots or pans:
--Bake beans and casseroles
--Brown and sear meats
--Roast a tomato sauce
--Bake corn bread or other quick breads
--Braise meats, vegetables and fruits
--Saute meats, vegetables and fruits
--Bake desserts, like cobblers or bread and Indian puddings
--Prepare rice, risotto and other grains
--Bake a pizza crust, tart shell, or even some cookies on top of the larger ovens by turning them upside down in the oven
--Mold a refrigerated or frozen dessert, such as a Russe or a bombe or tiramisu
--Serve a rustic punch for a party, such as hot apple cider
--Use it as a food warmer
--Use it to cook on the hearth if the oven and rangetop went out
--I'd bet I could even bake a layer cake in one in an emergency, if I *had to*, for some reason.
You get the picture. A French oven isn't the best pot for every job, by any means, but it can do most jobs if you absolutely need it to (obviously sometimes dependent on your FO's size). It is an EXTREMELY versatile piece of cookware. I use at least one of mine, every single day.
So now you can think about both sides of the equation, listen to yourself and decide what's best for *you*, because every cook is a unique person.
Great post. Really spoke to me and the way I've come around to looking at stuff. I too am careful with money, almost never pay full price for anything and rarely purchase anything non-essential any longer unless I really and truly love it. I find that not only do I save money this way and enjoy the things I purchase all the more for it, I also find that it really enhances our home and our lives to be surrounded by the carefully selected items that we really feel a connection to - whether it be books, art, cooking utensils/serving pieces or furniture.
I also have used my Le Creuset oven for many of the things on Normandie's list. I keep it on my range at all times.
The things I've regretted buying, for the most part, were the CHEAP things, the poorly made items, the tawdry and the flashy...(kind of like love affairs, eh?) I've never regretted the purchases that involved love and high quality and durability.
You can buy the *cheapest* little junko food processor thingies to tide you over. There really aren't many "cheap" versions of what Le Creuset does. Go for the pot (I just got a dijon yellow, 7.5 quart, by the way...)
I agree with you so much re, in essence, editing the things we keep around us. This is my second marriage and my husband was married before, and I've moved quite a bit in my adult life. So...wedding gifts....combining two households...all those housewarming gifts...hand-me-downs from our parents' homes... It gets to be a lot of things and, while we appreciate (*very much*) everybody's generosity, some of these things may not be what we would have chosen for ourselves. So I've been trying to purge the household, slowly but steadily, and I like coming home from the donation center to realize that more and more the house is more purely what we can use and what we find beautiful. Especially the kitchen, since I actually have to *work* in it. I'm not giving up my FOs or my Demeyere saute pan, though! ;-)
pomelo, it sounds like you want the LC, but know you can't afford it. Follow your conscience. You can get either a Tramontino or Lodge dutch oven at Walmart or Target for $30. True, they're not the same as a LC, but they will do the trick until you can afford the LC without feeling guilty about it. As for the food processor....they're nice, but definitely not essential.
I say keep the LC. You will love it and it will last forever. An LC is an heirloom while a food processor is great but will die and you will get a new one. Bake a loaf of no-knead bread (get the stainless replacement knob first) and enjoy.
Can you ask for a food processor as a gift? I often save the more practical items to ask for as gifts - if I hinted at anyone to gift me an LC they would roll their eyes and tell me to get a knockoff at Target.
The only other thought I have is that you can often find good deals on LC dutch ovens (ebay, Craigslist, factory outlets), so if you paid full price, you might be able to do better than that.
I have an 85 y.o. friend who is probably 5'2" on a tall day. She recently GAVE me her 13 qt. one. She couldn't pick the behemoth up. I get a little thrill when I see it sitting there. This is one of those situations where bigger is better. (Picture me rubbing my hands together in anticipation of all the REALLY BIG things I'm going to be cooking this winter.)
re: c oliver
Like a buffalo, maybe, c? >:-) Lucky you. What color is it?
Thanks for your reply to my post up above. Yes, I think it really is true, that *well chosen* things can bring us real and recurring joy. Not as much as the people and places and puppies and ideals we love, but still... The lesson that various posts here seem to repeat is that we really have to listen to ourselves and make sure it's stuff that means something to *us*, not something we feel pressured to obtain because fashion or status say it will impress others. Take your new pot. Obviously, you love to cook, you appreciate the quality of LC, but I'd bet it also means something to you because your friend gave it to you. If she's 85, she probably had time to have a lot of happy meals and memories attach to that oven. :-) That makes it all the more precious, to me.
So, seriously, what WILL a 13-quart FO accommodate? I'm planning to order my next one next week. It's definitely going to be an oval, but I can't decide between the 6-3/4 quart and the 9-whatever quart one. I'm trying to figure out if the 6+-quart one will accommodate a roasting chicken and if the 9-quart will fit a small turkey (say, 12-14 lbs.) Any idea?
I sent an email to Williams-Sonoma to ask them these questions, but haven't heard back yet. (And here's the frivolous part of me. I really want one of the W-S azure ones. They are on sale right now, and it's a pretty good sale, but I realize I could save even more if I went with one of the standard colors. So I have no conflict re purchasing the oven itself, which I think is a practical decision and something I'll use often, but I'm just trying to decide if I want to inject a *little* self-discipline into this.)
Keep the Le Creuset. I only wish that I had purchased mine sooner. It is the most versatile cookware piece I own and I love it. I wouldn't trade it for my food processor and you can always pick up an inexpensive FP down the road, whereas the Le Creuset will probably outlive you and comes with a 101 year warranty. Keeping the LC wins hands down.
My mother had an LC oven, and it did NOT last a lifetime, that's for sure! They don't mix with tile floors laid on concrete. I myself bought a target version on the round oven and i do love it! It was cheap ~30 bucks and I've had it for 5 years now. Can't see the difference between the two myself, and I use it a lot. Love it though, i make tons of soups and have even devised quite a few one pot dishes in it.
I say return it and get the food processor. If you don't want to make dough, and are only cooking for one or two then you may want to consider one of the smaller ones, which is what I use, and it only cost 30 bucks at Home Depot. Thus yr saving even more.
Two thoughts. I love LC but did have a 5qt that cracked when my husband dropped it on our (pine) wood floor, so, they don't necessarily last forever. I belabor my purchases as well, but did recently get the new Cuisinart food processor with the rubber gasket in the lid. I use my FP almost daily to make shakes out of yogurt and frozen fruit, and my old one always leaked at the lid. I thought I should probably have a blender for the shakes but I have very limited counter space, so I was thrilled when Cuisinart came out with the new FP with the gasket. Consider it if you opt for the food processor.
I dropped my LC lid - that I'd had for more than ten years - on the floor and it, not surprisingly, broke. I called LC to purchase a replacement, and they sent me a new one free of charge, no shipping, even though I'd made it clear that this was entirely my fault. So, I would encourage any one in a similar circumstance to call LC and see what they can do for you.