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**September 2009 COTM: Southern Month**

yamalam Aug 31, 2009 02:02 PM

Hey y'all, welcome to the September 2009 Chowhound Cookbook of the Month featuring:

SCREEN DOORS AND SWEET TEA: Recipes and Tales from a Southern Cook, by Martha Hall Foose (SDST)
BON APPETIT Y'ALL: Recipes and Tales from Three Generations of Southern Cooking, by Virginia Willis (BAYA)

We will use this thread for general commentary, recipe planning, links, and any other issues related to this COTM. You may wish to bookmark this thread for future reference, as it contains links to all the other threads for this month.

If you're new to Cookbook of the Month, the COTM archive thread explains how it all works:

Here are a few links which may be helpful for this month's COTM:

Previous Home Cooking threads on BAYA:

Online Virginia Willis recipes:

Previous threads with links to SDST online recipes:

The subthreads below are based on type of dish, rather than chapter name. At the beginning of each subthread, I've included the corresponding chapters from both books. I know that sounds clear as mud, but I figure we'll work it out as we go along!

Cocktails and Small Bites
Eggs and Dairy
Starches (Grits, Pasta, Potatoes, Rice
Vegetables and Beans
Baking (Biscuits, Breads, Desserts
Sauces (Condiments, Jams, Jellies and Preserves

Happy Cooking!

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    cpw RE: yamalam Sep 1, 2009 08:26 AM

    Thanks yamalam! The organization looks great.

    1. Gio RE: yamalam Sep 1, 2009 08:44 AM

      Thanks Yamalam! Tonight's the night..... Yay!
      I thought I'd start with an SDST recipe and intersperse with the BAY'A recipes I've been waiting to make at the end of the growing season.

      1. yamalam RE: yamalam Sep 1, 2009 09:22 AM

        Question on bacon drippings- do you strain or no?

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          Gio RE: yamalam Sep 1, 2009 09:59 AM

          I usually don't strain bacon drippings. I suppose I would if a recipe called for a "smooth" finish, or whatever.

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            buttertart RE: Gio Sep 1, 2009 02:12 PM

            The cruddy stuff (if such it should be called) sinks to the bottom of the dish as it cools anyway.

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          Karen_Schaffer RE: yamalam Sep 3, 2009 10:27 PM

          I have a minor complaint about a handful of recipes in BAYA, like the Funeral Grits on p. 154. The first paragraph is an instruction to preheat the oven. But in the next paragraph, you're instructed to simmer the grits for 45-60 minutes. That's a long time to preheat the oven!

          It's easy, of course, to figure out the correct order, but it would be kind for the cookbook challenged if it were clearer.

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            Gio RE: Karen_Schaffer Sep 4, 2009 09:50 AM

            There are several typos and errors in the book, Karen, which Ms Willis posted about in the first long thread of BAY'A reports. I found 3 myself, but as you note, anyone with a bit of kitchen savvy can readily figure out procedures. I imagine the editors feel quite dismayed to realize something has escaped them.....

          2. davina RE: yamalam Sep 4, 2009 02:54 PM

            Good news! Both Martha Foose and Virginia Willis are super excited about being chosen as COTM, and they've agreed to take part in an expert thread. We're thinking of doing it towards the end of September -- by then you'll have had a chance to cook through a chunk of the books and hopefully have questions for the authors.

            We haven't done this before with COTM but I'm hoping it'll be a great adjunct to the discussions in these threads. If you haven't seen a previous expert thread, here's the one we did with Mark Bittman: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/641046

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              Caitlin McGrath RE: davina Sep 4, 2009 03:09 PM

              Wow, that is very cool news, Davina! Thanks so much for organizing such a great opportunity for chowhounds and COTM participants.

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                Boudleaux RE: davina Sep 4, 2009 04:00 PM

                That's great news! Thank you!

                I'll be doing lots of cooking from the books and posting this weekend.

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                  Gio RE: davina Sep 4, 2009 06:19 PM

                  That's really very nice to read. Ms Willis was very gracious when she popped in to the BAY'A threads earlier this year. I look forward to her input once again and Ms Foose's as well when more home cooks are participating.

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                    marthafoose RE: davina Sep 21, 2009 09:13 AM

                    Great to hear from kitchens all over!

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                      buttertart RE: marthafoose Sep 21, 2009 09:22 AM

                      Thanks for your excellent book, I truly enjoyed it.

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                        marthafoose RE: buttertart Sep 21, 2009 09:28 AM

                        You are more than welcome!

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                          yayadave RE: marthafoose Sep 22, 2009 10:02 AM

                          It may not be exactly what you want to hear, but I'm going to remember Charlotte "not compelled" for a long time.

                  2. Rubee RE: yamalam Sep 6, 2009 02:09 PM

                    I'm roasting a chicken tonight, and thought I'd try the Herb Roast Chicken with Pan Sauce from BAYA with Baker's Potatoes. Just linking recipes for reference:



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                      virginia willis RE: Rubee Sep 10, 2009 09:13 AM

                      I wanted to pop in and say hello. I LOVE that so many people are excited to cook from BAY!
                      It's great - and, don't hesitate to let me know what you like and don't like. It's an excellent learning opportunity! The main point is - I want people to cook! And, suggestions for recipes and how better to write them are most welcome.

                      Re roast chicken - I have to say, it was a roast chicken kind of summer. The Julia/Julie blog with the roast chicken recipe went crazy. I near about fell out of my chair when abcnews called! Hope you enjoyed it.

                      Many thanks once again for this opportunity. Best VA

                    2. virginia willis RE: yamalam Sep 10, 2009 09:18 AM

                      Thanks so much for this opportunity! I am very much looking forward to it. Fun!
                      Just wish I could eat some of the food! ;-)
                      Best VA

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                        Gio RE: virginia willis Sep 10, 2009 10:08 AM

                        Good to "see" you here again, Ms Willis. So much fantastic food to eat... so little time.

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                          bayoucook RE: Gio Sep 13, 2009 04:51 AM

                          I'm baaaack! It's great to have Ms. Willis back again and I'm ready to cook from those two great cookbooks. Vacationed in Italy for two weeks AND broke my nose the second night out. Been home for about a week and feel rested and recovered enought to start cooking. Love this thread!

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                            Gio RE: bayoucook Sep 13, 2009 05:23 PM

                            Oh Bayoucook..... A broken nose?? How terrible for you. How on earth did you manage to have a happy time in Italy? Glad you're Baaaack however, and in seemingly good spirits.

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                              bayoucook RE: Gio Sep 24, 2009 07:07 AM

                              It was 98 degrees and very humid during the 5 hours we were on a walking tour of Rome. I drank a lot of water but still got overheated I guess. I fainted in the bathroom and broke my nose on the bidet! All that blood. "Doc" set it and called it dehydration. I had to take aspirin for a couple of days (and boy did it hurt to wear glasses/sunglasses), but it didn't slow me down for a second. My face scared a lot of people,and my husband got some dirty looks, tho'.
                              So sorry (for me) that I haven't participated in this forum! Still have a few days left, though....

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                        Karen_Schaffer RE: yamalam Sep 13, 2009 11:07 PM

                        After weeks of looking at these recipes but not managing to fit them into my schedule, I made four (4!) of them tonight for dinner with friends, all from BAYA: Oven-Fried Chicken Breast with Pecan Crust, Smoky Collard (chard) greens, Corn Spoon Bread, and Meme's Cobbler. Not only that, I've already posted my reviews. Now it's time for bed!

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                          onrushpam RE: yamalam Sep 19, 2009 03:42 PM

                          I'm TRYING to make the shrimp and grits and collards tonight...

                          Got the shrimp cleaned and everything else prepped, then went to start the grits. Opened a new bag of stone ground grits to find it FULL of evil weevils! GAG! So, DH is off to town, in the pouring rain. (We live 12 miles from the nearest grocery, but they do carry good grits.) Everything is on pause until he returns. I sure hope he enjoys this dinner!

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                            virginia willis RE: onrushpam Sep 21, 2009 09:29 AM

                            Hi there - Just touching base to see how things are going in COTM world. I had a great weekend at Euphoria, a food festival in Greenville SC. We cooked the frisee salad au lardons, the short ribs, horseradish mashed potatoes, and Annes 2X souffles. I love those souffles!

                            I see Karen above says something about reviews. Am I in the right place? Is there another place to see what folks think of the recipes? Thanks so much.

                            Best VA

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                              clamscasino RE: virginia willis Sep 21, 2009 09:44 AM

                              Welcome back Virginia! It's so exciting that you will be joining us. As far as your question: "Am I in the right place?" Well, yes and no. The reviews are located in several threads as delineated at the very top of this thread. Unlike Gio's original thread on BAY'A, traditionally cookbook of the month get divided into categories, so there are several threads on the book.

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                                Gio RE: virginia willis Sep 21, 2009 09:51 AM

                                Hello again, Virginia. On the main page for the COTM, this page actually, scroll down in the top paragraph till you come to the listing of the various chapters (the titles for each book have been combined) and click on the chapter for the reports you'd like to view.

                                It's great to see you here!!

                            2. greedygirl RE: yamalam Sep 23, 2009 03:32 PM

                              Just popping in from Charleston to say that I've finally had grits! I've been enjoying the food down here in the South and it's inspired me to try a lot more of the recipes. Also, Mr GG had a steak salad for lunch today that was spookily similar to the one in Bon Appetit Y'All (in SNOB in Charleston).

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                                MMRuth RE: greedygirl Sep 24, 2009 06:59 AM

                                As I think others have mentioned Charleston Receipts is a really fun cookbook, put out by the Jr. League there, in case you run across a copy.

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                                  LulusMom RE: greedygirl Sep 25, 2009 09:51 AM

                                  So ... (drum roll) ... what did you think of grits? I personally love them, but I know lots of people who don't. When you add cheese and lots of butter ... mmmmm.

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                                    greedygirl RE: LulusMom Sep 26, 2009 05:14 AM

                                    I can't imagine eating them a lot, tbh, but they're nice when combined with a lot of cheese, butter and/or cream (and what isn't)? Mr GG had a really nice shrimp and grits in a Savannah restaurant last night (Aligator Soul) - better than the one I had at McCrady's in Charleston.

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                                      LulusMom RE: greedygirl Sep 26, 2009 05:53 AM

                                      Shrimp and grits varies greatly, as does the quality of grits. And no question, butter and cheese make them much tastier.

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                                      hazelhurst RE: LulusMom Sep 26, 2009 10:16 AM

                                      Cheese grits souffle, or with grillades (see any NOLA cookbook)

                                  2. davina RE: yamalam Sep 25, 2009 11:56 AM

                                    I just wanted to make sure you all saw that the expert thread is posted here: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/654934

                                    Martha and Virginia will be fully in residence starting Monday, but feel free to start asking your questions now.

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